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I think the 3.0 is better, its has a better torque and response! I had filled the tank to full (1,400 baht) did 600 kms on an average speed of 135...its not that bad!

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I think the 3.0 is better, its has a better torque and response! I had filled the tank to full (1,400 baht) did 600 kms on an average speed of 135...its not that bad!

135kph! Look at me.

18kph over 1489kms. Average petrol 14.9L per 100k.

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You must have left the engine running each night when you went to bed!

It's just that I have to do a lot of driving during rush hours....almost all my driving is done in Bangkok.

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Not in Bkk..! Went down to ChiangMai....most of times 160-180km/h....had 135km/h average. Left Bkk at 5am..arrived 11am!

WOW! BKK/CNX 6 hours.... :o

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Not in Bkk..! Went down to ChiangMai....most of times 160-180km/h....had 135km/h average. Left Bkk at 5am..arrived 11am!

Not in Bkk..! Went down to ChiangMai....most of times 160-180km/h....had 135km/h average. Left Bkk at 5am..arrived 11am!

'Very impressive.
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I had to attend a wedding in Chiang Mai, when I got there, they asked me if I flew!!! Yeah I flew alright! Its a great road to drive to Chiang Mai especially when passed Nakhon Sawan. My wife and her mother were with me...you should have seen my mother in law...hehehe but she was kool!

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I just sold my 2.7 fortuner. I drove it for 10 months.

Petrol consumption was terrible. According to the on-board computer I was averaging 7.9 km around town

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Emilio,

Did you have a "VIP" police escort for that average speed ??

How many chickens did you run over? Did you use your sexy brembos at all?

You mean you had your wife and mil and didn't stop for food the whole way to CM? They must have been starving!

I have to stop every 2 hours for food and everything else with my wife!!

Your mil must have been praying the whole way.

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Not in Bkk..! Went down to ChiangMai....most of times 160-180km/h....had 135km/h average. Left Bkk at 5am..arrived 11am!

Very impressive Emillo, but don't you think that driving at those speeds, on the not very well maintained Thai roads, weaving in and out of traffic driven/ridden by Thai that don't have much of a clue what they're doing on the roads at the best of times, a trifle stupid?

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Not in Bkk..! Went down to ChiangMai....most of times 160-180km/h....had 135km/h average. Left Bkk at 5am..arrived 11am!

Very impressive Emillo, but don't you think that driving at those speeds, on the not very well maintained Thai roads, weaving in and out of traffic driven/ridden by Thai that don't have much of a clue what they're doing on the roads at the best of times, a trifle stupid?

Amen.

Dude's looking to become another statistic.

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If there is no traffic than that road is not so bad. I've driven there at night at 150 kmh on a few occasions, not the whole way but for considerable distances. It seems that everyone else drives faster at night as well - no need to weave in and out , just go with the flow.

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If there is no traffic than that road is not so bad. I've driven there at night at 150 kmh on a few occasions, not the whole way but for considerable distances. It seems that everyone else drives faster at night as well - no need to weave in and out , just go with the flow.

No kidding? I've never driven to Chiang Mai, but if you drove 150kph at night between Bangkok and Pattaya or Hua Hin you'd most likely end up in a smoking, twisted pile of debris.

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If there is no traffic than that road is not so bad. I've driven there at night at 150 kmh on a few occasions, not the whole way but for considerable distances. It seems that everyone else drives faster at night as well - no need to weave in and out , just go with the flow.

Not many cars/motor cycles on the road at night I agree, just more very slow, overloaded trucks and pick ups, you sure like to live dangerously.

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As I have said the road to Chiang Mai is very good, especially passed Nakon Sawan. I did not drive like those mad drivers veawing around, just nice straight flow with no traffic at 5am. Just stoped for a quick toilet pee added 500 baht fuel. Most of the time my wife and mil were sleeping. Those Brembo brakes wrok well, hey what do u expect with 8piston calipers. Im affraid I didnt run over any chikens, not so concerned about it. What I worry most would have been dogs.

Oh, here is my Tuner pic!

I got a question for all you guys. The other day I went to Uttaradit with my Tuner and when I arrived at my destination the mileage read 497Km. I was surprised coz my other car always read 535km??? The Tuner has 20 inch wheels, does this have an effect??????? I also believe perhaps the speed might not be precise???? Any comments?

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Nice wheels Emillio.

Maybe Terdsak or someone can give a difinitive answer but I think that changing the size of the wheels/tyres can/does affect the speedo reading, I also think it can affect the suspension as well but I'm not sure.

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I found this quote about tire size and the speedometer/odometer

Change in speedometer accuracy –

Changing tire sizes can also affect speedometer and odometer

accuracy. These instruments work by measuring the number of wheel rotations, so larger or

smaller wheels affect their accuracy because they cover more ground or less ground per rotation

than the speedometer and odometer were calibrated for. The tire measurement that is important

here is tire revolutions per mile. Due to the tire deformation where it contacts the ground, the

static diameter is not accurate in determining the distance a tire covers when it rotates. In fact,

some tires with exactly the same static diameter differ in revolutions per mile because of tire

construction. Tire pressure can also affect the revolutions per mile. Tire manufacturers frequently

supply a specification for revolutions per mile at normal tire pressure.

Using the tire size example from above, the 195/55-16 tires typically have a specification of 854

revs/mile. This can vary from brand to brand and will increase slightly as the tire wears, but this is

an average number. The smaller 195/50-16 tire revolves 876 revs/mile and the larger 205/55-16

tire revolves 835 revs/mile. Based on revolutions per mile, if you switch to the 195/50-16 tires, your

speedometer and odometer will think you are going approximately 2.5% faster than they did with

the 195/55-16 tires. With the 205/55-16 tires, these instruments will think you are going 2.2%

slower than if you had the original tires.

There is some optimism built into most speedometers anyway, maybe 2 - 3 mph at highway

speed. Using the larger tires will reduce this to 1 mph or less, using the smaller tires will increase is

to 4 - 5 mph. These are not huge differences unless you go flying through a radar trap with your

speedometer showing 10 mph over the limit, thinking your speedometer is 5 mph high and its really

spot on because you upsized your tires.

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Not worried about my suspension, had them changed too! Hmmm...good info! I thought so!! Sometimes while driving 120km/h, did not feel like it!

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Nice wheels Emillio.

Maybe Terdsak or someone can give a difinitive answer but I think that changing the size of the wheels/tyres can/does affect the speedo reading, I also think it can affect the suspension as well but I'm not sure.

Yeah thats right. When increasing the rim size you have to keep the rolling radius the same (or as close as possible) to the standard fit rims, in general I believe if you had 195/55/16 and want a 17 inch the tyre size should be 205/45/17 or 215/40/17. At least thats what the garage in the uk told me where I used to have all my cars sorted :D Or......get the speedo recalibrated to your new setup, which is what I think Emilio would have to do to get it accurate as I reckon 22" rims without rubber are probably almost as big as the old ones with rubber :o

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I've seen a Fortuner with similar big rims over the New Year parked at the resort and somehow they seem somewhat out of place to me. Big fat tires is what I expect from a 4wd vehicle.

Re. speedo - I think that your wheels cover more ground with each rotation so the speed should be higher thus you'd be going faster than the speedometer reads but you said you feel that you are going slower. I can't get my head to fully comprehend this issue.

You said TRD re-programed your ECU and added a few HPs? How many? When I read about it they said it's for people who never use 4wd.

Can you shed some light on it? Also previously you said that you don't mess with the engine so as not to lose warranty.

Will TRD take responcibility for the mods if something goes wrong, like that "braking problem guy", and Toyota refuses to fix it for free.

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They did not re-program the ECU. They used the Standard ECU and pluged in some other socket this other device. Got 28hps out of it! I dont care if they give no warranty!! But i will never modify the engine, thats for sure.

Well the guy who had brakes problem was stupid....he had put 22 inches wheels and used the standard brakes. Well, how can you expect for the brakes to take all that pressure???

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You sound like my Thai brother in law who claims that he can drive BKK to Surin (around 430 kms) in three and a half hours.

You say that you have averaged 135 kph over a 600 kms distance. To 'average' that speed then you must have been doing 150 kph at least for a good part of that time to compensate for the inevitable slower speeds in traffic.

Pardon me if I disbelieve you!

I think the 3.0 is better, its has a better torque and response! I had filled the tank to full (1,400 baht) did 600 kms on an average speed of 135...its not that bad!
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You sound like my Thai brother in law who claims that he can drive BKK to Surin (around 430 kms) in three and a half hours.

You say that you have averaged 135 kph over a 600 kms distance. To 'average' that speed then you must have been doing 150 kph at least for a good part of that time to compensate for the inevitable slower speeds in traffic.

Pardon me if I disbelieve you!

I think the 3.0 is better, its has a better torque and response! I had filled the tank to full (1,400 baht) did 600 kms on an average speed of 135...its not that bad!

This is real BKK speed and petrol use.

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[i've just gone past 27,000 kms in my gasoline Fortuner. The on-board computer registers an average of 10.3 kms/litre fuel consumption. This is a mix of town, city and long distance driving.

The 'better buy' is dependent on what you want from the car. If it's reasonable fuel consumption then go for the diesel which - driven responsibly - should give you 50% more kms/litre than the petrol. I detest clattering shale oil burning engines in passenger cars in Thailand because the manufacturers have not yet refined the engine units to match European standards. High end imports are an exception (Mercedes for example). The diesel Fortuner costs 100k more than the gasoline version. A 100k baht will buy enough gasoline even at todays prices to run you 35000 to 40000 kms.

If you're looking for off-road performance then go for the diesel with more torque at lower rpm; for lots of off-road get the manual transmission.

I made a conscious decision to buy the petrol version over the diesel and have not regretted it. You pays your money and you takes your choice.

The diesel Fortuner is a good car but it's not for me.

quote name=chuang' date='2006-01-04 08:48:20' post='601406]

What is the mileage for a litre of fuel for a Fortuner..Which is the better buy the 2.7 or 3.0 model....thanks

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detest clattering shale oil burning engines in passenger cars in Thailand because the manufacturers have not yet refined the engine units to match European standards. High end imports are an exception (Mercedes for example).

The toyota 3.0 & 2.0 D4D is Euro 3 standard as sold in Europe.....

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