30 Days Extention Of Non Immirgant B Visa

[dick]

Couple of friends of mine arrived to BKK in april with 1 year NON B in their passport. They''ve just discovered that the stamps in their passports are exactly for 90 days instead of 60. Was it a mistake of an immirgration officer or something have changed in the regulations?

[beechguy]

No, nothing changed, entries on non immigrant visas are always 90 days.

[Mario2008]

Per above, a non-B entry is always for 90 days.

[dick]

No, nothing changed, entries on non immigrant visas are always 90 days.

So they don't have to go soon for extention after 60 days?

[Mario2008]

After 60 days they can apply for an extension for 1 year (if they qualify).

Otherwise after 90 days they have to elave the country and can come back for another 90 days, as long as the visa is still valid.

[dick]

After 60 days they can apply for an extension for 1 year (if they qualify).

Otherwise after 90 days they have to elave the country and can come back for another 90 days, as long as the visa is still valid.

The one year visa is far off from to be expired.How can they apply for one extra year if they not even on their half? Or perhaps you meant to say ''extention one month?''

[beechguy]

After 60 days they can apply for an extension for 1 year (if they qualify).

Otherwise after 90 days they have to elave the country and can come back for another 90 days, as long as the visa is still valid.

The one year visa is far off from to be expired.How can they apply for one extra year if they not even on their half? Or perhaps you meant to say ''extention one month?''

No, he meant one year. The visa doesn't get extended, the permission to stay gets extended to one year.

[dick]

Sorry guys,you totally lost me now. Do they have to go and apply extention after 60 days or simply wait until 90 expire ,leave and reenter?

[beechguy]

Sorry guys,you totally lost me now. Do they have to go and apply extention after 60 days or simply wait until 90 expire ,leave and reenter?

It depends on what they want to do!

If their company qualifies, yes, they can go to immigration after 60 days, and apply for a one year "Extension of Stay" based on their employment.

If not, just exit the country before their current entry expires 89 days, and re-enter for another 90 day stay. If they wait until after 90 days expires to do anything, they will be on overstay, 500 Baht fine per day.

[dick]

Sorry guys,you totally lost me now. Do they have to go and apply extention after 60 days or simply wait until 90 expire ,leave and reenter?

It depends on what they want to do!

If their company qualifies, yes, they can go to immigration after 60 days, and apply for a one year "Extension of Stay" based on their employment.

If not, just exit the country before their current entry expires 89 days, and re-enter for another 90 day stay. If they wait until after 90 days expires to do anything, they will be on overstay, 500 Baht fine per day.

Ok,thx,that is more clear)

[Mario2008]

You seem to be confused with a tourist visa.

A non-immigrant B visa gives an entry of 90 days, a 1 year multiple non-B visa gives unlimted entries of 90 days during the time the visa itself is still valid. By leaving and re-entering just before the visa itself expires, you can get a new 90 days and so almost 15 months out of the visa.

A non-B visa can be exended during the last 30 days (so fte 60 days) of each entry. But as opposed to a tourist visa extension, the extension is for 1 year and one must qualify. One of the first qualifications that are demanded is that one has a work permit, there might also be a minimum income requirement (depending on nationality and the kind of job).

[dick]

You seem to be confused with a tourist visa.

A non-immigrant B visa gives an entry of 90 days, a 1 year multiple non-B visa gives unlimted entries of 90 days during the time the visa itself is still valid. By leaving and re-entering just before the visa itself expires, you can get a new 90 days and so almost 15 months out of the visa.

A non-B visa can be exended during the last 30 days (so fte 60 days) of each entry. But as opposed to a tourist visa extension, the extension is for 1 year and one must qualify. One of the first qualifications that are demanded is that one has a work permit, there might also be a minimum income requirement (depending on nationality and the kind of job).

So do i get it right,that most simple way is to exit and reenter on 89th day as it has been advised above?

[digitalchromakey]

You seem to be confused with a tourist visa.

A non-immigrant B visa gives an entry of 90 days, a 1 year multiple non-B visa gives unlimted entries of 90 days during the time the visa itself is still valid. By leaving and re-entering just before the visa itself expires, you can get a new 90 days and so almost 15 months out of the visa.

A non-B visa can be exended during the last 30 days (so fte 60 days) of each entry. But as opposed to a tourist visa extension, the extension is for 1 year and one must qualify. One of the first qualifications that are demanded is that one has a work permit, there might also be a minimum income requirement (depending on nationality and the kind of job).

So do i get it right,that most simple way is to exit and reenter on 89th day as it has been advised above?

Yes.

But in the longer term it will be more expensive for your friends if they keep making 90 day border runs plus 12-15 monthly visa runs in comparison to getting a One Year Extension of Permission to Stay based on Employment within Thailand (this is assuming they are eligible for Extension:- WP, contract, correct company papers, salary, tax paid, etc).

[dick]

You seem to be confused with a tourist visa.

A non-immigrant B visa gives an entry of 90 days, a 1 year multiple non-B visa gives unlimted entries of 90 days during the time the visa itself is still valid. By leaving and re-entering just before the visa itself expires, you can get a new 90 days and so almost 15 months out of the visa.

A non-B visa can be exended during the last 30 days (so fte 60 days) of each entry. But as opposed to a tourist visa extension, the extension is for 1 year and one must qualify. One of the first qualifications that are demanded is that one has a work permit, there might also be a minimum income requirement (depending on nationality and the kind of job).

So do i get it right,that most simple way is to exit and reenter on 89th day as it has been advised above?

Yes.

But in the longer term it will be more expensive for your friends if they keep making 90 day border runs plus 12-15 monthly visa runs in comparison to getting a One Year Extension of Permission to Stay based on Employment within Thailand (this is assuming they are eligible for Extension:- WP, contract, correct company papers, salary, tax paid, etc).

Yes,of course you are right on this one. Thank you very much for clarification!

[BKS22]

You seem to be confused with a tourist visa.

A non-immigrant B visa gives an entry of 90 days, a 1 year multiple non-B visa gives unlimted entries of 90 days during the time the visa itself is still valid. By leaving and re-entering just before the visa itself expires, you can get a new 90 days and so almost 15 months out of the visa.

A non-B visa can be exended during the last 30 days (so fte 60 days) of each entry. But as opposed to a tourist visa extension, the extension is for 1 year and one must qualify. One of the first qualifications that are demanded is that one has a work permit, there might also be a minimum income requirement (depending on nationality and the kind of job).

Excuse me for jumping in here. But I'm learning by reading this as well.

But shouldn't the main question here for the OP be, is if his friends have a 'single entry Non-Imm B' or a 'multiple entry Non-Imm B' ???

Because if they just have a 'single' entry then leaving the country prior to the end of 90 days doesn't do them any good correct? (unless you mean that they need to go to a consulate and apply for another one?) They would need a 'multiple' entry in order to leave Thailand and come back for a fresh set of 90 days wouldn't they??? And from what I have been reading obtaining a 'multiple' entry Non-Imm B is extremely difficult.

I will go on to say I do understand the process for applying for the extension of stay for a year given you have the proper documentation and valid Visa.

[Mario2008]

The 1 year non-B the OP writes indicates that they have a multiple non-B. A single non-B is only valid for 3 months, meaning you must enter Thailand within 3 months time from date of issue.

[IMA_FARANG]

Couple of friends of mine arrived to BKK in april with 1 year NON B in their passport. They''ve just discovered that the stamps in their passports are exactly for 90 days instead of 60. Was it a mistake of an immirgration officer or something have changed in the regulations?

No the immigration got it right.

A single-entry TOURIST visa is good for a 60 day entry with the option of a 30 day extension.

But a Non-B visa is good for a 90 day entry.

The question is....exactly what does their Non-B visa say about number of entries?

Does it say it is a SINGLE entry visa or is it a MULTI entry visa?

Either way, they would get 90 days on first entry....but if the visa is a single entry...you only get that one single 90 day entry.

If it is a multi entry visa...they can get multi entries....once every 90 days....by exiting Thailand and then re-entering immeadiately...which will get them another 90 day stamp.

That's called a "border run" and is done by going to the nearest Thai border, exiting Thailand and entering the neighboring country, and then re-entering Thailand to get stamped vack into Thailand.

If it is a single entry Non-B visa....then after 60 days they can apply for an extension of stay with the proper documents from their employer....and normally a work permit also.

But that's another topic.

The important point is their Non-B visa a single entry or a multi entry....it should say on the visa....either written there or be stamped there.

[PoorSucker]

Extension of Thai Business Visa

The Thai "B" or Business Visa can be extended to a one year visa in country as follows.

The extension of the visa is normally based on employment and as such there are certain regulations governing the company who is employing you.

These are the regulations for the extension of the "B" Business Visa:

1. The business must be registered in Thailand.

2. The company must be capitalized to at least Baht 2 Million while operating fund must be at least Baht 1 Million.

3. The company must have a ration of at least 4 : 1 - Four Thais for every foreigner.

4. You must earn at least in accordance with the level specified for each nationality by the Labour Department.

Duration of the Extension

- One year at a time.

Documents required for the extension:

1. Application form (T.M. 7 )

2. Passport or document used in lien of passport and its copies .

3. The applicants 4 x 6 cm. photograph .

4. Extension fee Baht 1,900.-

5. The company letters certifying as follows ;

- Nature of business

- Reason or necessity in employing the applicant his / her position, salary and education background.

- Number of Thai and foreign employees.

6. Copies of work permit or receipt of work permit application.

7. Company's annual balance sheets.

8. The juristic persons Annual Income Tax Declaration Form (Form No.50) of the latest year and its receipt of payment.

9. Thai employees Monthly Income Tax Declaration Form (Form No.1 ) of the latest month and its receipt of payment.

10. The applicants Annual Income Tax Declaration Form (Form No.91) of the latest year and its receipt of payment.

11. The official letter that certify the registration of such juristic person.

12. Business Registration or Business License.

13. Value Added Tax Registration and list of share holders.

14. A map that indicate location of the Company.

15. For those who operate export business, the documentary evidence clarifying its export activities is needed.

16. For those who operate tourism business, the documentary evidence clarifying its total number of tourist that brought in by the company is needed.

Some Immigrations offices.

17. Picture of all the company's employees at work

18. Picture of all company's employees in front of the office with clear name of the company showing

N.B. In case of necessity , documents No.7 , 8 , 9 , and 10 can be substituted by the company letters stating its reason.

[TerryLH]

"If it is a multi entry visa...they can get multi entries....once every 90 days.."

Actually, it's not just once every 90 days. It can be as many times as they want/need to. They can exit and re-enter every day and get a new 90 day permission to stay, as long as the visa remains valid.

[beechguy]

Couple of friends of mine arrived to BKK in april with 1 year NON B in their passport. They''ve just discovered that the stamps in their passports are exactly for 90 days instead of 60. Was it a mistake of an immirgration officer or something have changed in the regulations?

No the immigration got it right.

A single-entry TOURIST visa is good for a 60 day entry with the option of a 30 day extension.

But a Non-B visa is good for a 90 day entry.

The question is....exactly what does their Non-B visa say about number of entries?

Does it say it is a SINGLE entry visa or is it a MULTI entry visa?

Either way, they would get 90 days on first entry....but if the visa is a single entry...you only get that one single 90 day entry.

If it is a multi entry visa...they can get multi entries....once every 90 days....by exiting Thailand and then re-entering immeadiately...which will get them another 90 day stamp.

That's called a "border run" and is done by going to the nearest Thai border, exiting Thailand and entering the neighboring country, and then re-entering Thailand to get stamped vack into Thailand.

If it is a single entry Non-B visa....then after 60 days they can apply for an extension of stay with the proper documents from their employer....and normally a work permit also.

But that's another topic.

The important point is their Non-B visa a single entry or a multi entry....it should say on the visa....either written there or be stamped there.

Nonsense, in this case, there is no "important point". The Op already stated they have a one year, Non-Immigrant "B" Visa, when have you ever heard of a one year "B" Visa being a single entry? No need to make it seem complicated, i's not.

[BKS22]

Couple of friends of mine arrived to BKK in april with 1 year NON B in their passport. They''ve just discovered that the stamps in their passports are exactly for 90 days instead of 60. Was it a mistake of an immirgration officer or something have changed in the regulations?

No the immigration got it right.

A single-entry TOURIST visa is good for a 60 day entry with the option of a 30 day extension.

But a Non-B visa is good for a 90 day entry.

The question is....exactly what does their Non-B visa say about number of entries?

Does it say it is a SINGLE entry visa or is it a MULTI entry visa?

Either way, they would get 90 days on first entry....but if the visa is a single entry...you only get that one single 90 day entry.

If it is a multi entry visa...they can get multi entries....once every 90 days....by exiting Thailand and then re-entering immeadiately...which will get them another 90 day stamp.

That's called a "border run" and is done by going to the nearest Thai border, exiting Thailand and entering the neighboring country, and then re-entering Thailand to get stamped vack into Thailand.

If it is a single entry Non-B visa....then after 60 days they can apply for an extension of stay with the proper documents from their employer....and normally a work permit also.

But that's another topic.

The important point is their Non-B visa a single entry or a multi entry....it should say on the visa....either written there or be stamped there.

Nonsense, in this case, there is no "important point". The Op already stated they have a one year, Non-Immigrant "B" Visa, when have you ever heard of a one year "B" Visa being a single entry? No need to make it seem complicated, i's not.

Can a 'SINGLE' entry Non-Imm B Visa be extended? I am NOT referring to the permission to stay with proper documentation for a year. I mean can it be extended for an additional 30 days in the same way a Tourist Visa can?

Thanks in advance

[Mario2008]

No, the maximum you can get is 7 days and that might require showing a ticket out of Thailand.

[BKS22]

No, the maximum you can get is 7 days and that might require showing a ticket out of Thailand.

Ok .....Thanks for that Mario

Wish I knew a way to get a "legitimate" MULTI entry Non-Imm B. I see plenty of so called "Visa Assistance" companies online offering multi entry Visas, but from what I have heard they are just setting up "ghost" companies under your name in order to obtain them. And that can only lead to trouble. From the research I have done as well as my prospective employer...the consulates in the States are not issuing them anymore.

[Mario2008]

In the region they are possible to get, but only with a work permit and company papers.

[Maestro]

The fact is that you do not need a multiple-entry non-B visa to travel to Thailand in order to take up employment with your prospective employer. A single-entry visa serves this purpose quite well. Promptly after arrival in Thailand, decide if you want to accept the employment offer and if you do accept it, apply for the work permit and when it is ready, pick it up at the Department of Employment. This procedure usually takes less than the 90 days you are permitted to stay when you arrive with a single-entry non-B visa. After that, it is annual extensions of stay for the reason of employment.

[digitalchromakey]

The fact is that you do not need a multiple-entry non-B visa to travel to Thailand in order to take up employment with your prospective employer. A single-entry visa serves this purpose quite well. Promptly after arrival in Thailand, decide if you want to accept the employment offer and if you do accept it, apply for the work permit and when it is ready, pick it up at the Department of Employment. This procedure usually takes less than the 90 days you are permitted to stay when you arrive with a single-entry non-B visa. After that, it is annual extensions of stay for the reason of employment.

Correct you do not need any class of Visa to apply for a Work Permit, you only need a correct visa entry for the WP to be issued

However a significant number of people with valid Work Permits still do not qualify for Extensions of Permission to Stay due to Employment (Police Order 777/2551 Section 2.1) due to personal cicumstances, nationality/salary, Thai tax paid or sometimes the employer not meeting the criteriae.

For this class of employees One Year Multiple Entry Non Immigrant Type B Visas are the only way of staying here to work, inconvenient and expensive though this method is.

[lopburi3]

They can obtain single entry visas for such work (but requires more time outside country) - a multi entry is not a requirement.

[digitalchromakey]

They can obtain single entry visas for such work (but requires more time outside country) - a multi entry is not a requirement.

True - Sequential Single Entry Non Immigrant Type 'B's are an option - but as you indicate it is very difficult and expensive taking a minimum of two week days off work per month to do the Visa Run; this is why, in my opinion, the Multi Entry Non 'B' is the realistic minimum if you are in full time employment with a WP but do not qualify for an Extension of Permission to Stay.

[lopburi3]

A non immigrant visa allows 90 day stay - not one month. So not really that hard to do.

[digitalchromakey]

A non immigrant visa allows 90 day stay - not one month. So not really that hard to do.

Correct - typing error on my behalf.

Two days lost salary per three months plus 20,000 THB minimum for 3x extra visa runs can add up to a months salary lost per annum - this compared to day off border runs with a multi entry Non Immigrant B and no lost wages.

When I used to have a Multi Entry Non B, I worked 20+ days on and then three (well needed) days off - loosing those very valuable days off to a visa run every three months didn't figure in my calculations when I could have a Multi Entry and then do only one visa run per year.