farang000999 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 hello, i read a comment someone on here made along these lines, that windows 7 will need to be reinstalled on ur computer every year. can someone clarify what they are talking about? thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJCM Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 What should the reason be for reinstalling. I have Win 7 already running for 2 years, and never had the urge or the need to reinstall it. It's still as snappy as it was when I first installed it. I only do the following to keep it that way. - I use a program like ccleaner to get rid of temp and some log files - Sometimes clean up the Eventlogs (not really necessary) - Have a Full optimize Defrag scheduled every week - Have "light" defrag scheduled to run when the computer is idle / running screensaver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happysanook Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 are you referring to Windows 7 slowing down, or Microsoft policy?? In either case, the answer is no. Assuming you have enough RAM (at least 2gb), and you keep the number of programs running in the background reasonable, and don't have some virus or large amounts of adware from visiting too many porn sites, Windows 7 should be fine indefinitely. Also, assuming you're "normal" user and not a power user downloading huge files and regularly filling your hard drives to capacity, you shouldn't need to defrag either as Windows 7 does that automatically while idle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Most Windows in LOS are copies. I think Microsoft sorts out the fakes and sends stuff into your PC to balls things up, hence the ''shop'' installs another copy. Mine usually last around 2 years and the shop installs another, 300 bht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astral Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 I ran XP for around 5 years without ever re-installing it so see no reason why I should need to re-install Win 7. Except for the reason suggested by Transam..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1950 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Most Windows in LOS are copies. I think Microsoft sorts out the fakes and sends stuff into your PC to balls things up, hence the ''shop'' installs another copy. Mine usually last around 2 years and the shop installs another, 300 bht. Microsoft actually doesn't send stuff into your PC to balls things up. They just detect and deactivate the fake copies. Which makes the fake copy gradually useless. YMMV from a few months to over a year. But it will be detected. This is probably the only reason you would need to periodically install Windows 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Most Windows in LOS are copies. I think Microsoft sorts out the fakes and sends stuff into your PC to balls things up, hence the ''shop'' installs another copy. Mine usually last around 2 years and the shop installs another, 300 bht. Microsoft actually doesn't send stuff into your PC to balls things up. They just detect and deactivate the fake copies. Which makes the fake copy gradually useless. YMMV from a few months to over a year. But it will be detected. This is probably the only reason you would need to periodically install Windows 7. Well l think that is still called ''balls things up'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJCM Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 (edited) Reading posts makes me wonder, how many of you are using copied / illegal sw ? I don't, everything on my PC is legit. Win7, Office, Visual Studio Professional, lots of freeware and even the music and the movies I watch, I buy legit. Just wondering... Edited June 13, 2012 by MJCM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbk Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Post offering advice on how to use pirated software removed. We aren't that kind of forum, don't repost illegal advice, cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunterHunter Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Sometimes if you get a bit of a slow-down its worth taking hte time to do a fresh re-install of Windows. I used to do this about once a year myself, just to make sure everything was clean, fresh and running fine. Win7 doesn't seem to fall foul of this, so I've not had to do it since i had Win 7 - and yes, i have a legit purchased version (3 seat license - 'Family' pack - very cost effective if you have more than 1 PC in the household) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Reading posts makes me wonder, how many of you are using copied / illegal sw ? I don't, everything on my PC is legit. Win7, Office, Visual Studio Professional, lots of freeware and even the music and the movies I watch, I buy legit. Just wondering... WE buy PC's here that have copies everything. Get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJCM Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 (edited) Reading posts makes me wonder, how many of you are using copied / illegal sw ? I don't, everything on my PC is legit. Win7, Office, Visual Studio Professional, lots of freeware and even the music and the movies I watch, I buy legit. Just wondering... WE buy PC's here that have copies everything. Get used to it. But I do buy PC's here that don't have copies ! Edited June 13, 2012 by MJCM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Reading posts makes me wonder, how many of you are using copied / illegal sw ? I don't, everything on my PC is legit. Win7, Office, Visual Studio Professional, lots of freeware and even the music and the movies I watch, I buy legit. Just wondering... WE buy PC's here that have copies everything. Get used to it. But I do buy PC's here that don't have copies ! Must have cost a bundle, eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 What should the reason be for reinstalling. I have Win 7 already running for 2 years, and never had the urge or the need to reinstall it. It's still as snappy as it was when I first installed it. I only do the following to keep it that way. - I use a program like ccleaner to get rid of temp and some log files - Sometimes clean up the Eventlogs (not really necessary) - Have a Full optimize Defrag scheduled every week - Have "light" defrag scheduled to run when the computer is idle / running screensaver. Or for someone who likes to install everything without brain and collects viruses and malware: Make a bootable USB stick with acronis trueimage (I hope the name is correct). Install the computer absolute perfect. Make a backup. When it is dirty and slow: Backup the important data, emails, bookmarks. Play back the backup....Saves a lot time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farang000999 Posted June 13, 2012 Author Share Posted June 13, 2012 i have heard that people who have copy windows xp do not need to reinstall. they can still get updates from windows even though windows know it is a fake copy. windows 7 is different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1950 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 (edited) i have heard that people who have copy windows xp do not need to reinstall. they can still get updates from windows even though windows know it is a fake copy. windows 7 is different? Yes. Windows XP used WGA (Windows Genuine Advantage) which was added later and was easy to fool permanently by using the hosts file. Windows Vista used and early form of WAT (Windows Activation Technology) which could be fooled by a boot loader. Windows 7 uses and advanced form of WAT. It can't be fooled permanently. If any of the core files are modified from what the license allows. They will be eventually detected, even if a boot loader is used to start Windows. It's all part of the advanced security that only Windows 7 provides. Edited June 13, 2012 by BB1950 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1950 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Reading posts makes me wonder, how many of you are using copied / illegal sw ? I don't, everything on my PC is legit. Win7, Office, Visual Studio Professional, lots of freeware and even the music and the movies I watch, I buy legit. Just wondering... WE buy PC's here that have copies everything. Get used to it. But I do buy PC's here that don't have copies ! Must have cost a bundle, eh. Well I also bought my PC here and it's 100% legit. It didn't cost a bundle. There were promotions offered by Microsoft that I used. If I recall, in 2003 a legit OEM version of Windows XP Pro was sold here in Thailand for about 8000 baht. That was a ball cruncher! You can get legit versions of Windows 7 for under 3000 baht. As mentioned by MunterHunter a legit purchased version (3 seat license - 'Family' pack - very cost effective if you have more than 1 PC in the household). Well that isn't really limited to a household. It's limited to 3 PC's! So if you have some friend's you all can reap the savings. There are other multiple-licensing options available. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happysanook Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 i have heard that people who have copy windows xp do not need to reinstall. they can still get updates from windows even though windows know it is a fake copy. windows 7 is different? Yes. Windows XP used WGA (Windows Genuine Advantage) which was added later and was easy to fool permanently by using the hosts file. Windows Vista used and early form of WAT (Windows Activation Technology) which could be fooled by a boot loader. Windows 7 uses and advanced form of WAT. It can't be fooled permanently. If any of the core files are modified from what the license allows. They will be eventually detected, even if a boot loader is used to start Windows. It's all part of the advanced security that only Windows 7 provides. My initial post got deleted on specifics, but it's entirely possible to easily fool Windows 7. Just 3 things you should/shouldn't do and you're good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul888 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 What you have to remember when deciding whether to use pirate copies of Windows is that hackers and crackers are seldomly Robin Hood types and they have no reason to do you a favour. I suppose how important security should be to you depends upon what you actually use your pc for and whilst using genuine software products doesn't 100% protect you from all pc and online problems, it will definitely keep you safer than a pirated copy and will enable you to regularly update protection as new threats evolve, and new fixes are released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallyrd Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Reading posts makes me wonder, how many of you are using copied / illegal sw ? I don't, everything on my PC is legit. Win7, Office, Visual Studio Professional, lots of freeware and even the music and the movies I watch, I buy legit. Just wondering... Me thinks that there are not many of us about. I hate pirated software and I despise those that use it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happysanook Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 (edited) What you have to remember when deciding whether to use pirate copies of Windows is that hackers and crackers are seldomly Robin Hood types and they have no reason to do you a favour. I suppose how important security should be to you depends upon what you actually use your pc for and whilst using genuine software products doesn't 100% protect you from all pc and online problems, it will definitely keep you safer than a pirated copy and will enable you to regularly update protection as new threats evolve, and new fixes are released. Illegal copies can download and install any and all Microsoft security updates and fixes. It HAS to be that way so that illegal copies don't infect other computers and especially to protect those who have legit copies. Now, that's not to say that if you buy, or download a hacked/"special" edition Windows 7 disc, that it won't contain some sort of "backdoor". This is entirely possible to open yourself up to a security threat in this way - Though Windows 7 discs are not copy-protected (copyRIGHT protected, yes), so there are plenty of legit (meaning, no backdoors - though illegal if used and not being the original purchaser) copies available. Edited June 14, 2012 by happysanook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryw52 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Win 7 is a very clean OS and a legal version should never need to be reinstalled unlike earlier version of windows including WIN XP which always seem to run much better after a clean install. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSixpack Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 (edited) hello, i read a comment someone on here made along these lines, that windows 7 will need to be reinstalled on ur computer every year. can someone clarify what they are talking about? thanks. Just some nonsense. There is almost never any real reason to reinstall Windows 7 or XP. Sometimes people just like to be doing something. Edited June 14, 2012 by JSixpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 What you have to remember when deciding whether to use pirate copies of Windows is that hackers and crackers are seldomly Robin Hood types and they have no reason to do you a favour. I suppose how important security should be to you depends upon what you actually use your pc for and whilst using genuine software products doesn't 100% protect you from all pc and online problems, it will definitely keep you safer than a pirated copy and will enable you to regularly update protection as new threats evolve, and new fixes are released. Illegal copies can download and install any and all Microsoft security updates and fixes. It HAS to be that way so that illegal copies don't infect other computers and especially to protect those who have legit copies. Now, that's not to say that if you buy, or download a hacked/"special" edition Windows 7 disc, that it won't contain some sort of "backdoor". This is entirely possible to open yourself up to a security threat in this way - Though Windows 7 discs are not copy-protected (copyRIGHT protected, yes), so there are plenty of legit (meaning, no backdoors - though illegal if used and not being the original purchaser) copies available. All my Windows have gone through the Microsoft ''Genuine'' check and passed , takes 1 to2 years to be balls up. My first PC l bought here without even thinking about copied windows as it was a big store. The first time the PC played up after 2 years l took it back, no questions, come back in afternoon, 300bht. It had a different XP windows.No names but l went to a big PC outlet that sold two big names. Guy spoke English and told me all the stuff has copied programs, but, l have one Gateway Desktop with genuine everything for 32000bht. He also said a genuine windows can get for 6000bht. All you folk who have bought here and think it is genuine, think again if stuff goes haywire in a year or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 i have heard that people who have copy windows xp do not need to reinstall. they can still get updates from windows even though windows know it is a fake copy. windows 7 is different? Yes. Windows XP used WGA (Windows Genuine Advantage) which was added later and was easy to fool permanently by using the hosts file. Windows Vista used and early form of WAT (Windows Activation Technology) which could be fooled by a boot loader. Windows 7 uses and advanced form of WAT. It can't be fooled permanently. If any of the core files are modified from what the license allows. They will be eventually detected, even if a boot loader is used to start Windows. It's all part of the advanced security that only Windows 7 provides. I don't want to discuss pirating here. But Win 7, if you can read, know how to use Google and you have an IQ of 70 or above you should be able to manage it to have it running permanent without problems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Sometimes it just works out that way. Let's see, 2011 I had a disk go to <deleted>, so had to re-install. In January I unintentionally destroyed my partition table, so had to rebuild that (lot's of fun :^( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJCM Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 (edited) <snip> All you folk who have bought here and think it is genuine, think again if stuff goes haywire in a year or two. Then I must be on borrowed time with my Laptop (Running original Win7) and was bought in April 2010 and it's still going strong and is still in use as my wife's gaming PC Edited June 15, 2012 by MJCM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 <snip> All you folk who have bought here and think it is genuine, think again if stuff goes haywire in a year or two. Then I must be on borrowed time with my Laptop (Running original Win7) and was bought in April 2010 and it's still going strong and is still in use as my wife's gaming PC Lucky boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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