Relation Problems And Fishing In The Wrong Pool

[Headgame]

And really, the wrong kinds of girls? Duh.

Ladyboys?

Good point.

Definitely in the "wrong kinds of girls" category.

[whatchamacallit]

You hit the nail on the head. Accurate and precise. Wake up and smell the coffee!

[robblok]

I have read some of your replies on how you think of Thai woman, totally different from what you are writing here. You are one of those guys who irks me on your view of Thai woman. I am not the only one in that thread you got your ass kicked.

I reckon it was about 50/50 (go back and count)

The young and inexperienced sided with you, the older and experienced sided with me.

The main difference was the young and inexperienced tend to resort to nasty and vicious personal attacks, I guess they think god was on their side.

Because the older ones are the ones paying for sex and meeting the wrong kinds of girls. That is the whole thing im trying to explain here. Different ponds my friend. Maybe if you had lived here when you were younger and met different kinds of girls. I know that no matter how long i live here now i have the experience that i have now.

We can do an easy test, you go into a upscale pub in BKK (you know where girls have money) with a friend of mine and see who comes out with a normal girl. The guy is 26 and handsome. That would kinda prove my point.

I don't know what Thailand you live in when you say "the older ones are the ones paying for sex". I've seen a lot of fat, balding young guys (I think many from Holland) doing just that.

And really, the wrong kinds of girls? Duh.

BTW, I bet if I went with your handsome young friend (surprised you didn't offer yourself up for this test) to an upscale pub in BKK that we would both leave with "normal" girls.

I did not offer myself up for it because i never claimed to be handsome or super young. I am just an average guy not fat not balding. But average. Some might say i am muscular, that depends on the point of view. I don't feel that i am anything special or gods gift to woman like some of the old timers think they are.

I am pretty sure that if you and my friend would go int he pub and you would not wave around your money. You would probably strike out and he would go back with a girl. If you were to get a girl without waving money around im also sure she would be older and less attractive then the one he would get.

The moment you want girls like him you would have to pay. I just don't believe a 66 yo has the same attraction on girls as a 25 yo. I also think most of the girls who go with those older guys are in it for the money. That is in many cases not all.

Then we get back to the original point where the older guys who get kicked out of their houses, cheated out of their money ect say all Thai girls are bad while they just had unrealistic expectations.

I don't condone those kind of cheating girls one bit but in the end the guy went in it with open eyes thinking it was not about money.

There are always exceptions and i realise that some in this thread have shown that. But i still think in general i'm right.

But its kinda hard as the most people around here are old so they will say anything to feel good. Strange that the foreign woman and younger guys see it different. No fool like an old fool.

[robblok]

I get so tired, no exhausted about all the age bigotry generally displayed by the younger dudes on this forum. I also get disgusted by the "my Thai lady is better than yours because ......... arguments.

I pray that you all return to this forum when you are 68 like I am and provide your opinions. I think there will be a different attitude.

I resent the stereotypical, fat, balding, loser "old guy" description. No doubt, like all stereotypes, it's based on some facts but I am not fat, not bald, not a loser and quite willing and able to do whatever I want to do.

I am growing old disgracefully, so there!!!

I'm fine with seeing older guys happy and in a relationship with a woman. Or with multiple women. I look forward to dating someone half my age someday. I think most younger guys feel the same way.

It's just some posters who make these sweeping generalizations and ridiculous comments that annoy.

No problems at all with guys like that. But don't start with sweeping generalizations ect when you get burned because you got the wrong kind of girl. Just accept then its your own fault too.

I have never read any sweeping generalizations here from old men about younger Thai women (except to say they are nice). All the ones I have read are from young men either about age appropriate women or about old men taking all the good looking young women. Your original argument is flawed because your real purpose was to tell older men that they can't get quality women like you can because you are young. Over and over again you are telling us that we pay for bad quality women and you don't. Why? Because you are young and we are old.

Old men from Holland come to Thailand to find young women. Young men from Holland stay in Holland and find young women.

When I was 25 I married a beauty queen from Texas. At 65 I married a beauty queen from Issan. Why do you think that is?

I read enough sweeping generalizations from guys here. All girls are in it for the money, Thai girls cant be trusted, farang have lower standing as dogs. To name but a few. Just guys who were stupid and got burned.

[TommoPhysicist]

Then we get back to the original point where the older guys who get kicked out of their houses, cheated out of their money ect say all Thai girls are bad while they just had unrealistic expectations.

No man in Thailand gets kicked out of his house (that only happens in the western world).

No foreigner can own a house in Thailand, it's against the law, but he can buy a Thai national a house as a gift (although some Thai courts claim that is also against Thai law).

But if we are talking about criminals (foreign men who attempted to bypass Thai law by whatever means), then they deserve all they get.

All girls are in it for the money, Thai girls cant be trusted, farang have lower standing as dogs. To name but a few. Just guys who were stupid and got burned.

Why pick on Thai girls?

I don't see many break-ups where a western woman says, "you paid for the house, you can keep it .... and have joint custody of the children", do you?

Edited June 17, 2012 by TommoPhysicist

[MobileContent]

I read enough sweeping generalizations from guys here. All girls are in it for the money, Thai girls cant be trusted, farang have lower standing as dogs. To name but a few. Just guys who were stupid and got burned.

Had a failed relationship before with a hooker but all the red lights went up but I ignored it. I showed to much bucks so got attention from the wrong side.

Found my love via an Internet dating site and we have now been married for over a year. I played broke for over 6 months and didn't showed any money. Her English was good and she won the scrabble test in English against 295 other schools in Isaan. Her parents are great and she has a very very small family (only one young brother). Her parents are at my age (45 years) and they have their own income.

We talked the first few weeks on the phone before we finally met.

Not all poor farmer daughters from Isaan and their parents are gold diggers.

[robblok]

Then we get back to the original point where the older guys who get kicked out of their houses, cheated out of their money ect say all Thai girls are bad while they just had unrealistic expectations.

No man in Thailand gets kicked out of his house (that only happens in the western world).

No foreigner can own a house in Thailand, it's against the law, but he can buy a Thai national a house as a gift (although some Thai courts claim that is also against Thai law).

But if we are talking about criminals (foreign men who attempted to bypass Thai law by whatever means), then they deserve all they get.

All girls are in it for the money, Thai girls cant be trusted, farang have lower standing as dogs. To name but a few. Just guys who were stupid and got burned.

Why pick on Thai girls?

I don't see many break-ups where a western woman says, "you paid for the house, you can keep it .... and have joint custody of the children", do you?

Tommo,

Let me tell you your misinformed. Foreigners can own houses. Its the land they can't own. Its one of the many things your wrong about.

Then if you quote me quote me good, im not picking on Thai girls at all. I am defending them. You understand you just rent the girls if you use money. You told that in an other topic. So you would not talk bad about Thai girls if you get burned and loose some money.

[TommoPhysicist]

Let me tell you your misinformed. Foreigners can own houses. Its the land they can't own. Its one of the many things your wrong about.

Then if you quote me quote me good, im not picking on Thai girls at all. I am defending them. You understand you just rent the girls if you use money. You told that in an other topic. So you would not talk bad about Thai girls if you get burned and loose some money.

They can't own houses without the right to the land usage. If use of land is removed they can knock it down but can't sell it.

(You need to look a little more carefully at Thai law)

You are most definitely the one picking on Thai girls, in particular Thai hookers that you clearly think of as 'bad'.

PS. I've already told you L.O.S.E and L.O.S.E.R, just because it's your second language is no excuse to refuse to learn.

[how241]

There are some older foreigner who do look good and will have no problem finding young girls wanting them for their looks, think Sean Connery and George Cloony ......

Yet both these guys are balding fat puddings, which you just stated Thai girls don't like.

If you look in most Thai / Thai relations you will see that there is no large age gap unless money is involved.

Yet my wife's friend is 32 and her husband is 58, both Thai, both poor.

Girls who already have money or have an education / family who can supply in money will in general don't go for older guys.

There was me thinking they go for guys with even more money.

Sorry, but you just sound a bit desperate to convince yourself that your girl really loves you for being you.

Only time will tell.

What girls all over the world are attracted to is MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, FAME, POWER and MONEY.

If you don't have that, you will only ever be second choice.

As for a Thai girls first choice as a sexual partner.

Small, effeminate, young Korean and Thai guys, not white guys and not muscle guys who work out all the time.

Gay Thai guys do appear to be attracted to white muscle guys though.

Some good points made.

[Headgame]

Robblok, you are really quite a naive fellow.

There is in fact no fool like any fool - young or old.

I don't think many old guys really believe they are god's gift to women. However, the gift the good one's have is life experience, a non-judgmental attitude and in most cases, reasonable expectations in a relationship.

The horror stories about failed Thai relationships certainly affect the young as well as the old and are typically the same old story - bad judgement in every aspect of the relationship. It certainly isn't always the "lying, scheming" Thai lady who is to blame. Can often be the drunken, abusive farang.

Money has been a significant factor in male - female relations since the dawn of time and in every society, not just TH. It is hardly the only factor but you continuously associate it with old guys and their ability to get beautiful, young women.

Do you really think the handsome young man with no money is going to keep the beautiful young lady he leaves the pub with? Very doubtful, the beautiful young lady with money wants the handsome young man with no money for a long term relationship.

To your point, I certainly know young, attractive ladies have a natural attraction to handsome, young men but you will be amazed how other qualities (not money) can get their hormones surging, as well, e.g. humor. Thai girls love to laugh and I am a very funny guy, sorry funny, old guy.

BTW, you are far too modest about your muscles with that avatar of yours promoting a much different image and I'm not sure how young "super young is" but I guess it's not young enough for you to be called young man. Curious how old are you?

[StreetCowboy]

Never mind fishing in the wrong pond - have you ever found yourself ferreting in the wrong burrow?

SC

[theblether]

I'm going to tell you the secret to a successful relationship in Thailand, now sssshhhh, and come in closer to the screen, don't be letting this secret out, learn this one and you will never need to worry again, the secret is

[theblether]

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the secret is never let your Thai lady think she's got you. Full stop, thanks for listening.

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Edited June 18, 2012 by theblether

[GreenSnapper]

First off a few ground rules

Against contrary belief of many foreigners the Thai beauty ideal is not an aging balding faring carrying a few kg's too much around.

You have 2 problems, mate:

1. Obsession with older farang / younger women

2. No knowledge about how women tick.

I give you some clues:

Men are polygamous, women are hypergamous.

What does that mean? Men try to spread their sperms at beautiful women as much as possible, while women try to get the supposedly highest quality available. That is the essence of human nature, and no PC reeducation can change that.

In other words: women go for the alpha males.

What is an Alpha male?

High status, high income, fame, alpha attitude. Not subservient "white knight".

Alpha males almost always have much younger women. And much younger, sexy women are mainly attracted to the alphas.

Do you seriously believe, an ugly Alpha like Jack Nicholson goes for women of same age? Ridiculous. The same applies for all kinds of celebritys. An old man like Mick Jagger has all the cute 18 yo chicks waiting at his hotel door.

That rule applies world wide, not only Thailand.

I live in a HiSo area in BKK. The restaurants around me are full with 60yo Thais with their 20yo mia noi. These mia nois aren't what you see at Nana. They are much higher quality.

In my observation, young good looking Farangs mostly have the average Nana-gogo sort of girlfriends. Nothing to be proud of. They can't do better, because they have nothing to offer, except for their young age and "hansumness".

The few young farangs with quality women have different traits: they are either on a good paying job, or show typical Alpha attitude. They are quite rare, though.

A very sad example of a young farang I have just seen these days: he was certainly good looking, his GF was a tatooed, ugly BG probably 10 years older than him. He showed the typical Western beta attitude of insecureness. No wonder.

The young alpha farangs with quality women rarely bitch about older men. Because they know very well they will have quality women all their life, until they are 70, 80. And they don't have much of a serious competition.

Women are a different species and don't tick the same way as us men. While looks and age have highest priority for men, it is minor for women. These behaviour patterns have developed over million of years. Despite what you learn in modern PC countries, these patterns are still prevalent todays.

Accept it and stop the bitching. You are still young enough to learn.

[smokie36]

I for one, would happily marry a fat, balding, old, but rich lady of any nationality.

The older the better and a recent cardiologists report would seal the marriage eh?