Bail For Red-Shirt Leaders Should Be Revoked, Democrats Say

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Bail for red-shirt leaders should be revoked, Democrats say

The Nation

BANGKOK: -- The opposition Democrat Party Monday asked the Department of Special Investigation and the Attorney-General's Office to get the Criminal Court to withdraw bail for red-shirt leaders who recently threatened Constitution Court judges.

Democrat MP Wirut Kalayasiri, a key member of the party's legal team, said Monday that red-shirt leaders Natthawut Saikua, Jatuporn Promphan, and Yoswalit Chooklom had severely criticised the judges for deciding to review petitions against an amendment to allow a rewrite of the Constitution.

Wirut said the three red-shirt leaders, who are closely connected to the ruling Pheu Thai Party and government, threatened judges from the Constitution Court and provoked hatred among their red-shirt supporters.

The Democrat MP said separate acts by the three redshirt leaders should be regarded as a violation of conditions set by the Criminal Court for their temporary release.

The three, and other red-shirt leaders, are accused of terrorism and inciting violence in mid2010 that led to rioting, arson attacks on dozens of buildings in central Bangkok and the death of more than 91 people, including many not involved in the 10 weeks of street protests.

"The three men pressured the Constitution Court judges and incited unrest, which is against the conditions of their bail," Wirut said. He said that DSI chief Tarit Pengdith and the attorney-general were obliged to seek a Criminal Court order to withdraw their temporary release.

"If they [the redshirt leaders] are allowed to continue like this, damage will be done to the country's peace and security," he said.

But Tarit said Monday the issue was beyond DSI authority - it was up to state prosecutors.

"The DSI has completed its job already. The agency prepared the case and the public prosecutors filed it with the court. So, the power to seek a court withdrawal of bail rests with the prosecutors," he said.

A decision by the Constitution Court early this month led to parliament postponing a vote in a final reading on whether to pass the constitutional amendment to allow the establishment of a constitution drafting assembly. Many government politicians and their supporters accused the court of interfering with the legislature but the court insisted on its constitutional authority to rule on the case.

-- The Nation 2012-06-18

[moe666]

Red shirts means law breaker right.

[thaicbr]

Red shirts means law breaker right.

No it does not... but some red leaders do like to cause trouble with their vocal stage speeches that may break the conditions of the bail.

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[Soi Sauce]

Hitler had brown ones. Promised the same. The ignorant believed. Then, like Napoleon, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and countless others who promised the World to the masses, they led their countries to ruin and their supporters to total poverty.

Reds, please wake up.

Edited June 18, 2012 by Soi Sauce

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DSI told to revoke bail for red leaders

The Nation

BANGKOK: -- The opposition Democrat Party yesterday asked the Department of Special Investigation and the Attorney-General's Office to get the Criminal Court to withdraw bail for red-shirt leaders who recently threatened Constitution Court judges.

Democrat MP Wirut Kalayasiri, a key member of the party's legal team, said yesterday that red-shirt leaders Natthawut Saikua, Jatuporn Promphan and Yoswalit Chooklom had severely criticised the judges for deciding to review petitions against an amendment to allow a re-write of the Constitution.

Wirut said the three red-shirt leaders, who are closely connected to the ruling Pheu Thai Party and government, allegedly threatened judges from the Constitution Court and provoked hatred among their red-shirt supporters.

The Democrat MP said separate acts by the three red leaders should be regarded as a violation of conditions set by the Criminal Court for their temporary release.

The three, and other red-shirt leaders, are accused of terrorism and inciting violence in mid-2010 that led to rioting, arson attacks on dozens of buildings in central Bangkok and the death of more than 91 people, including many not involved in the 10 weeks of street protests.

"The three men pressured the Constitution Court judges and incited unrest, which is against the conditions of their bail," Wirut claimed. He said that DSI chief Tarit Pengdith and the attorney-general were obliged to seek a Criminal Court order to withdraw their temporary release.

"If they [the red-shirt leaders] are allowed to continue like this, damage will be done to the country's peace and security," he said.

But Tarit said yesterday the issue was beyond DSI authority as it was up to state prosecutors.

"The DSI has completed its job. The agency prepared the case and the public prosecutors filed it with the court. So, the power to seek a court withdrawal of bail rests with the prosecutors," he said.

A decision by the Constitution Court early this month led to parliament postponing a vote in a final reading on whether to pass the constitutional amendment to allow the establishment of a constitution drafting assembly. Many government politicians and their supporters accused the court of interfering with the legislature but the court insisted on its constitutional authority to rule on the case.

At yesterday's meeting of the Upper House, Senator Vicharn Sirichai-ekkawat expressed concern that separate rallies by the Pheu Thai and Democrat parties to mobilise backing from their supporters would lead to more hatred and division.

Meanwhile, deputy Democrat spokesperson Mallika Boonmeetrakul said yesterday she would seek an explanation from the Attorney-General's Office as to why it failed to take legal action against four people connected to former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, including his son Panthongtae, in connection with a bank loan scandal.

She was referring to last week's decision by the Attorney-General's Office to sue Thaksin and 26 others, including other politicians and executives of the state-owned Krung Thai Bank, for alleged malfeasance in connection with Bt8 billion in loans KTB lent to a property developer. It was found that part of the money was later transferred to bank accounts of certain individuals close to a leading government figure at the time.

Mallika said that if the Attorney-General's Office was still firm on its decision not to sue the four individuals despite their alleged connection to the scandal, the Democrats would ask the National Anti-Corruption Commission to take the case to court by itself.

-- The Nation 2012-06-19

[Buchholz]

"The three men pressured the Constitution Court judges and incited unrest, which is against the conditions of their bail," Wirut claimed. He said that DSI chief Tarit Pengdith and the attorney-general were obliged to seek a Criminal Court order to withdraw their temporary

Their months as fugitives, their inciting violence rhetoric, the reasons to revoke bail are numerous.

Meanwhile, deputy Democrat spokesperson Mallika Boonmeetrakul said yesterday she would seek an explanation from the Attorney-General's Office as to why it failed to take legal action against four people connected to former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, including his son Panthongtae, in connection with a bank loan scandal.

An important explanation is warranted as to why one of the most deeply involved defendants, Thaksin's son, who was personally the recipient of millions and whose bogus company received millions more, was dropped from prosecution.

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[soundman]

Before this topic derails (further) into Red/Yellow wailing, please center the discussion around threatening, criticising the judges, bail, Jatuporn et al, etc.

[MikeThaison]

I think it is pretty ballsy to be out in the open arguably breaking the law/ or at least your bail conditions when you are on such serious charges. They are not on simple traffic violations. Just shows what kind of egos and "above the law" mentality these knuckle heads have. In the west, what would your lawyer suggest you do? take a holiday or stay in your house and <deleted>, don't talk unless it's through your lawyer. . Oh well TIT. Hope they do get bail revoked, but they will probably end up in that country club (in comparison to other prisons) they just opened for political prisoners.

[Moruya]

The hateful leaders of any hue should all be boiled down for glue where theycan be most useful.

Pour encourager les autres.

[thaiphoon]

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