Reasons For Not Leaving Thailand (Loving Or Hating It)

[daftpunker]

I think most people moan about living here because they cant leave as they dont have the funds to do so.As for me im leaving here soon as i have saved carefully in my life and dont have such a vice for ladies and drink as so many seem to do so in thailand.

[F1fanatic]

I think most people moan about living here because they cant leave as they dont have the funds to do so.As for me im leaving here soon as i have saved carefully in my life and dont have such a vice for ladies and drink as so many seem to do so in thailand.

How long have you lived here (out of interest)?

[daftpunker]

I think most people moan about living here because they cant leave as they dont have the funds to do so.As for me im leaving here soon as i have saved carefully in my life and dont have such a vice for ladies and drink as so many seem to do so in thailand.

How long have you lived here (out of interest)?

long enough to know this place sir

[notmyself]

I've read so many posts on this forum by people who hate life here, and I'm just wondering why they don't leave if they hate it so much?

Stuck in Bang Kwang perhaps?

[F1fanatic]

I think most people moan about living here because they cant leave as they dont have the funds to do so.As for me im leaving here soon as i have saved carefully in my life and dont have such a vice for ladies and drink as so many seem to do so in thailand.

How long have you lived here (out of interest)?

long enough to know this place sir

Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you. I only ask as my experience is that most decide after a couple of years, so I was curious as to how long you had lived here.

Edit - I'm a woman, not a Sir!

Edited July 13, 2012 by F1fanatic

[TommoPhysicist]

2/ You have to read between the lines: Here people mainly complain about their (young and "beautiful") wife/gf cheating on them/stealing their money/ being too demanding.... Remember they came here because they had no one in their own country that would meet their ridiculous expectations (half their age/beautiful/etc..) and any other punter back in US/UK is thinking he would actually likes to be cheated on, because that would mean he would have something more than internet porn as excuse for private life.

Aneliene has pinned down the reason for being here.

1) Pussy and plenty of it, young, slim and very cute.

2) Beer, cheap and plenty of it (served by young, slim and cute ......... )

Aneliene has also pinned down the reason for leaving.

1) Pussy, expecting too much from aforementioned, then subsequently being disappointed. It was young, slim and cute but also demanding, lying, cheating, thieving ........... and really, you can't buy love, your own fault for being so daft.

2) Beer, too much of it, over too long a period of time ...... again, who you gonna blame ......

As Oscar says "I can resist everything except temptation".

Edited July 13, 2012 by TommoPhysicist

[notmyself]

As Oscar says "I can resist everything except temptation".

No need to lead me into temptation, I can find the way myself.

[Semper]

I've read so many posts on this forum by people who hate life here, and I'm just wondering why they don't leave if they hate it so much?

Stuck in Bang Kwang perhaps?

Slim chance of using internet there.

[Kananga]

Reasons ? I guess is the fact that whoever love/hates living in Thailand has nowhere else to go. You need money here in Thailand for sure to experience the best of the country,many are just surviving,still Thailand is the most westernised of far eastern countries ,so some comfort there for farang.

Face it though,where to go,the western world is devastated,my option was move to Spain ,but likened to buying a ticket on a sinking Titanic.

"... most westernised of the far eastern countries" with the exception of Singapore, Hong Kong and Malaysia. and depending on your viewpoint, the Philippines. and on a par with Taiwan.

SC

Not to mention being one of the least Westernised when it comes to mastery of a western language.

[Kananga]

and why does there have to be this need to integrate? There are many people from the East who have emigrated to the West who are very insular in the way they run their daily lives including overseas Thai populations.

In my opinion being respectful of society in general is far more important than the level of integration which is nothing more than a personal choice. Although from reading some of these points you would think you get some sort of tax rebate on the number of Thai friends you can boast about having.

[Ulysses G.]

I've read so many posts on this forum by people who hate life here, and I'm just wondering why they don't leave if they hate it so much?

Stuck in Bang Kwang perhaps?

Slim chance of using internet there.

They are reputed to have plenty of smart phones.

[jacktrip]

Hate to state the obvious but: They don't leave because it's much cheaper!

Looking for a similar lifestyle in France and Italy at the moment, but not coming up with many options. Just because you can afford to live here better, does not mean you have to be all positive about the place, or 'save face' and not discuss the negatives.

[aneliane]

Cheating and lying culture : You certainly won't be able to debate this here. Most of posters have Thai gf/wives after having a bad private life experiences in their own country. You can't say anything bad about Thai culture, they take it as personal offense.

Really? I got the impression from the forum that more people had negative things to say. Perhaps I need to read and observe more.

I think everything has its good and bad points. I personally enjoy Indonesia and Thailand more than my country of origin. It's the vibe, the amount of life and things going on, and it's hard to describe. I'm not saying it's euphoric, it's just different, more lively, and more interesting to me.

I sometimes feel that expats in Thailand live in a world of their own (incl. the places they gather, shop, eat, and live) so they don't really have to deal with culture and society here that much.

The negative is only about individual, it usually starts by "My Thai wife.." My Thai wife cheated on me, My Thai wife spends all my money, My Thai wife is asking money for her parents, My Thai wife has left me, I think I never read so many times the word "My Thai wife" than here and I know so many stuffs about people's private life that I have never actually met.

No ones actually dares negative comments on Thai culture in general, otherwise, you have the

"if you don't like it, leave" crew

the "Let's try to give a positive image of THL to those who want to come" crew

the "I take everything about Thai culture personally because I date a Thai woman" crew

and the apologist ("If you've been ripped off it's your fault) crew,

all getting at you

A real treat

There are some pretty broad-brush negative attacks on Thais, and, more specifically, the human race in general

http://www.thaivisa....gainst-farangs/

http://www.thaivisa....d/#entry5319572

There's actually a lot of us on here are figments of our imagination, and we find it hard to be consistent

SC

Yeah, these 2 topics are mine and I got trashed for daring to give a negative opinion about some aspects of Thai culture

[Ulysses G.]

Hate to state the obvious but: They don't leave because it's much cheaper!

They usually claim that Thailand is more expensive than the West and that they came here for the temples originally..

[aneliane]

2/ You have to read between the lines: Here people mainly complain about their (young and "beautiful") wife/gf cheating on them/stealing their money/ being too demanding.... Remember they came here because they had no one in their own country that would meet their ridiculous expectations (half their age/beautiful/etc..) and any other punter back in US/UK is thinking he would actually likes to be cheated on, because that would mean he would have something more than internet porn as excuse for private life.

Aneliene has pinned down the reason for being here.

1) Pussy and plenty of it, young, slim and very cute.

2) Beer, cheap and plenty of it (served by young, slim and cute ......... )

Aneliene has also pinned down the reason for leaving.

1) Pussy, expecting too much from aforementioned, then subsequently being disappointed. It was young, slim and cute but also demanding, lying, cheating, thieving ........... and really, you can't buy love, your own fault for being so daft.

2) Beer, too much of it, over too long a period of time ...... again, who you gonna blame ......

As Oscar says "I can resist everything except temptation".

Thanks.... just one thing; my name is Aneliane

[aneliane]

Cheating and lying culture : You certainly won't be able to debate this here. Most of posters have Thai gf/wives after having a bad private life experiences in their own country. You can't say anything bad about Thai culture, they take it as personal offense.

Really? I got the impression from the forum that more people had negative things to say. Perhaps I need to read and observe more.

I think everything has its good and bad points. I personally enjoy Indonesia and Thailand more than my country of origin. It's the vibe, the amount of life and things going on, and it's hard to describe. I'm not saying it's euphoric, it's just different, more lively, and more interesting to me.

I sometimes feel that expats in Thailand live in a world of their own (incl. the places they gather, shop, eat, and live) so they don't really have to deal with culture and society here that much.

The negative is only about individual, it usually starts by "My Thai wife.." My Thai wife cheated on me, My Thai wife spends all my money, My Thai wife is asking money for her parents, My Thai wife has left me, I think I never read so many times the word "My Thai wife" than here and I know so many stuffs about people's private life that I have never actually met.

No ones actually dares negative comments on Thai culture in general, otherwise, you have the

"if you don't like it, leave" crew

the "Let's try to give a positive image of THL to those who want to come" crew

the "I take everything about Thai culture personally because I date a Thai woman" crew

and the apologist ("If you've been ripped off it's your fault) crew,

all getting at you

A real treat

I love my Thai wife and son and have no plans to live in any other country.

Are you happy now, not that I worry about it but it is 100% true.

,

And what does it have to do with anything I said ?

[aneliane]

Cheating and lying culture : You certainly won't be able to debate this here. Most of posters have Thai gf/wives after having a bad private life experiences in their own country. You can't say anything bad about Thai culture, they take it as personal offense.

Really? I got the impression from the forum that more people had negative things to say. Perhaps I need to read and observe more.

I think everything has its good and bad points. I personally enjoy Indonesia and Thailand more than my country of origin. It's the vibe, the amount of life and things going on, and it's hard to describe. I'm not saying it's euphoric, it's just different, more lively, and more interesting to me.

I sometimes feel that expats in Thailand live in a world of their own (incl. the places they gather, shop, eat, and live) so they don't really have to deal with culture and society here that much.

The negative is only about individual, it usually starts by "My Thai wife.." My Thai wife cheated on me, My Thai wife spends all my money, My Thai wife is asking money for her parents, My Thai wife has left me, I think I never read so many times the word "My Thai wife" than here and I know so many stuffs about people's private life that I have never actually met.

No ones actually dares negative comments on Thai culture in general, otherwise, you have the

"if you don't like it, leave" crew

the "Let's try to give a positive image of THL to those who want to come" crew

the "I take everything about Thai culture personally because I date a Thai woman" crew

and the apologist ("If you've been ripped off it's your fault) crew,

all getting at you

A real treat

You really should get out more and maybe mix with a different crowd. Where are all these threads you talk about on here, look at the general forum and tell me how many are about " my Thai wife xxxxxxxx", your just writing from your own bitter perspective.

To the OP, just come over and try Thailand for yourself. As others have said for some people it's a great place to be ( me included ) for other people it's not what they expected and it's up to them to make some changes to their lives.

- You're right the "My Thai wife .. " topics have disappeared lately, I think due to an overdose of them. You must be new, seriously I read so many of them.

- Nothing bitter about what I say, what do I have to be bitter about?

[Semper]

Reasons for not leaving.

No money for the ticket?

Edited July 13, 2012 by Semper

[KeyserSoze01]

I love thailand, I have been here for nearly 5 yrs, I have a thai wife half my age, I have honestly had no more bad experiences than I would have in other parts of the world, and am happier than I have ever been in my life, and prior to coming to Thailand my life was also wonderful

We make our own luck, look after your wife and her family, a long established principal in thailand and you are unlikely to be cheated upon, of course like all parts of the word there are some bad people, but look at where you meet them, so you get what you deserve

I would love Thai Visa to get rid of all members poting negative things, but then there would be so few postings

Remember there are many foreignors here who are only here as they have run out of places to go, and they only have thai visa as their love!!

I hear often of people here living on social security from thir home countries and if they declared honestly where they live they would get nothing

IF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT GO HOME

long live the King and wonderful Thailand

Al007

Still in stage 1 then?

Quite easy to tell the newbies, init?

[Rsquared]

Back to topic...............Chads, I chose to move and live here on my own terms, and am flexible enough to go with the flow, whatever that may entail.

Each to their own, I think I can safely say that most members here on TV do have, or have had their choice in life as to what they want to do...........so we learn from our mistakes and get on with life......the older you get the more you appreciate how precious life is.

And to waste your time trying to blame others for your misfortunes.......well, don't cry on my shoulder.

I am happy here in LOS, and I intend to live out the rest of my life here, during good times and bad.

Knock on my door and I'll invite you in.......if my dogs accept you, then I'll offer you a beer or two.

Cheers.

[ozziebloke]

I love thailand, I have been here for nearly 5 yrs, I have a thai wife half my age, I have honestly had no more bad experiences than I would have in other parts of the world, and am happier than I have ever been in my life, and prior to coming to Thailand my life was also wonderful

We make our own luck, look after your wife and her family, a long established principal in thailand and you are unlikely to be cheated upon, of course like all parts of the word there are some bad people, but look at where you meet them, so you get what you deserve

I would love Thai Visa to get rid of all members poting negative things, but then there would be so few postings

Remember there are many foreignors here who are only here as they have run out of places to go, and they only have thai visa as their love!!

I hear often of people here living on social security from thir home countries and if they declared honestly where they live they would get nothing

IF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT GO HOME

long live the King and wonderful Thailand

Al007

Still in stage 1 then?

Quite easy to tell the newbies, init?

What makes him a newbie ???? that he hasn't posted on everything ? he's been a member of TV longer than the both of you.

[sandgroper2]

I love thailand, I have been here for nearly 5 yrs, I have a thai wife half my age, I have honestly had no more bad experiences than I would have in other parts of the world, and am happier than I have ever been in my life, and prior to coming to Thailand my life was also wonderful

We make our own luck, look after your wife and her family, a long established principal in thailand and you are unlikely to be cheated upon, of course like all parts of the word there are some bad people, but look at where you meet them, so you get what you deserve

I would love Thai Visa to get rid of all members poting negative things, but then there would be so few postings

Remember there are many foreignors here who are only here as they have run out of places to go, and they only have thai visa as their love!!

I hear often of people here living on social security from thir home countries and if they declared honestly where they live they would get nothing

IF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT GO HOME

long live the King and wonderful Thailand

Al007

Yes, most thia wives will remain faithful so long as you support them and their families,as 5 long years of you living here has proven.

[guzzi850m2]

I been here for a while now (+10 years) and I just turned 50 this year & I have a relatively good paid job in the oil off shore industrie worldwide and can basically live anywhere in the world I like, but all things considered I think Thailand is still one of the best country's in the world to live in.

Many things can be annoying at times but if you learn to accept that this is the Thai way of doing things you should be fine, not all expats moving here can and they will quickly end up bitter/negative and move back to whatever country they came from or maybe they stay and winch about how bad it is here, he-he.

There seems to be a lot of last category here on ThaiVisa.

[devilish]

I've been coming to Thailand every year since I was a teenager, then living in Thailand for the past couple of years (24 yrs. old now). I think I've seen the good and the bad that come w/ Thailand. A lot of what you judge to be good or bad comes from perspective and mindset.

There's a definite attraction to Thailand for me. It's been like a home to me: where I grew up in many ways.

The culture can blow you away sometimes and question everything you believe.

[how241]

Everyone has different experiences and opinions of Thailand, I'd come and make your own mind up.

+1

[robertson468]

Cheating and lying culture : You certainly won't be able to debate this here. Most of posters have Thai gf/wives after having a bad private life experiences in their own country. You can't say anything bad about Thai culture, they take it as personal offense.

Really? I got the impression from the forum that more people had negative things to say. Perhaps I need to read and observe more.

I think everything has its good and bad points. I personally enjoy Indonesia and Thailand more than my country of origin. It's the vibe, the amount of life and things going on, and it's hard to describe. I'm not saying it's euphoric, it's just different, more lively, and more interesting to me.

I sometimes feel that expats in Thailand live in a world of their own (incl. the places they gather, shop, eat, and live) so they don't really have to deal with culture and society here that much.

The negative is only about individual, it usually starts by "My Thai wife.." My Thai wife cheated on me, My Thai wife spends all my money, My Thai wife is asking money for her parents, My Thai wife has left me, I think I never read so many times the word "My Thai wife" than here and I know so many stuffs about people's private life that I have never actually met.

No ones actually dares negative comments on Thai culture in general, otherwise, you have the

"if you don't like it, leave" crew

the "Let's try to give a positive image of THL to those who want to come" crew

the "I take everything about Thai culture personally because I date a Thai woman" crew

and the apologist ("If you've been ripped off it's your fault) crew,

all getting at you

A real treat

I love my Thai wife and son and have no plans to live in any other country.

Are you happy now, not that I worry about it but it is 100% true.

Can I join your "crew" please because I am the same

[wabear]

I'm a gay white man, and have been traveling to Thailand for vacation for 25 years. I've seen many changes in Thailand, many not good. It might be different because you are SE Asian, but farangs still don't "fit" in Thai culture. I've had friends here for many years, but I still get the "you are not Thai, you don't understand'. I do admit not speaking the language but the people I know speak English well.

There is a culture shock that is stronger in some countries than others. Tourists in general don't experience it. That's how Thailand can be the "Land of Smiles". As you stay longer, you either have to move to acceptance or avoidance. I don't truly understand Thai people sometimes, even friends of many years.

Regardless you should give it a try. At it's best my experiences with Thai people have been interesting and rewarding. It's definately a place to experience. I wish you could have experienced the place 20 years ago. It was marketed as "amazing Thailand" and it ways in many ways it was.

I also understand the frustration those that don't take the avoidence or acceptance routes. Trying to impose your own ideas on how Thai's should act and you will go crazy. It's not your country. You don't make the rules I am of the belief, that the business and legal worlds are stacked against you but I have no personal experience.

[Dap]

Cheating and lying culture : You certainly won't be able to debate this here. Most of posters have Thai gf/wives after having a bad private life experiences in their own country. You can't say anything bad about Thai culture, they take it as personal offense.

As for negative comments about THL on this forum,

1/ it is called Thaivisa, therefore people can get help here about their visa, then it is extended to "General" (non-visa) relative topics; You only ask for help if you have a problem right? Why would it be any different ?

2/ You have to read between the lines: Here people mainly complain about their (young and "beautiful") wife/gf cheating on them/stealing their money/ being too demanding.... Remember they came here because they had no one in their own country that would meet their ridiculous expectations (half their age/beautiful/etc..) and any other punter back in US/UK is thinking he would actually likes to be cheated on, because that would mean he would have something more than internet porn as excuse for private life.

3/ Happiness don't sell, trains arriving on time don't make the headlines, and yes we like to read about other's misfortune it's human.

4/ As it is THL and many touchy political topics and criticisms are not allowed, so we are left with mundane pc stuffs, which results in compelling issues like "What is your favorite way of eating bananas?" or "Thai people are amazing at doing crappy underpaid jobs" and my favorite one : "Thai people are cute; discuss (but discuss only the fact they are cute and how they are cute, anyone daring to say they're not cute is off topic)" )

Bad hair day?

[rubik101]

There are many things wrong with life in Thailand but most of them are simply trivial, made to appear life threatening or insurmountable by a few posters who seem to have nothing better to do than scaremonger and complain all day. (If they don't like it...)

As I sit in the morning on my patio in the shade in my shorts and T shirt, sipping my Typhoo tea and reading the English news on-line, I see a hundred reasons a week why I would never go back to the UK. I could write a list but Thai Visa's bandwidth would suffer.

It would begin with the weather and probably end with taxes and everyday 'fines' for parking.

[jacktrip]

Reasons for not leaving.

No money for the ticket?

what happens to forengners who have "no money for a ticket' in thailand? are there any safety nets financially for those who cannot afford the cheapest digs? do they squat under bridges like they would do in the US? don't see too much of that here,