Do You Really Know What Love Is?

greenwanderer108 · January 17, 2006

It’s always great to share thoughts, wisdom, opinions, views, critique, and philosophies with my dad’s and grandfather’s generation…Only the expat versions who decided to live on this side of the world for perhaps similar reasons to me…only not.

Love is a subatomic quantum jump inside a dynamic molecule that we call life.
We can predict its path while not observing its position. When aware of its position, its path is unknowable.

I'm ‘in love’ with souls from the last 10,000 years of reincarnation. I cross paths with them every where I go. However, the circumstances of this life don't always allow for eternal reunions..as long as the cycle continues...there's always next life, we’ll meet again.

In similar terms, let's recall Meno's Paradox. Everything/one that I know or don't know is that which I already knew...merely forgotten. Thus applied to love, Everyone that I fall in love with is actually someone I already fell in love previously/prior (in another life/consciousness /existence)

This is my best take on love thus far...

If you disagree, elaborate. Examples/References get extra credit.

ProfessorFart · January 17, 2006

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meadish_sweetball · January 17, 2006

One argument, what about the very first person you fall in love with? If it is your very first incarnation, it cannot be based on memories.

kurgen · January 17, 2006

It’s always great to share thoughts, wisdom, opinions, views, critique, and philosophies with my dad’s and grandfather’s generation…Only the expat versions who decided to live on this side of the world for perhaps similar reasons to me…only not.
Love is a subatomic quantum jump inside a dynamic molecule that we call life.
We can predict its path while not observing its position. When aware of its position, its path is unknowable.

I'm ‘in love’ with souls from the last 10,000 years of reincarnation. I cross paths with them every where I go. However, the circumstances of this life don't always allow for eternal reunions..as long as the cycle continues...there's always next life, we’ll meet again.

In similar terms, let's recall Meno's Paradox. Everything/one that I know or don't know is that which I already knew...merely forgotten. Thus applied to love, Everyone that I fall in love with is actually someone I already fell in love previously/prior (in another life/consciousness /existence)

This is my best take on love thus far...

If you disagree, elaborate. Examples/References get extra credit.

Ahh , the joys of LSD

greenwanderer108 · January 17, 2006

One argument, what about the very first person you fall in love with? If it is your very first incarnation, it cannot be based on memories.

but how is one to know it is truly the first time/incarnation?

Just like the little boy in the garden that Socrates and Menon confronted. As far as the little boy knew, it was his first time he had ever been confronted with the arithmatic problem (which he ended up solving).

Aparently, all the answers lie within the soul, which according to Socrates logic if I recall right, has existed forever...No birth/particular origin that he explains

Totster · January 17, 2006

It's times like this I wish there was a private philosophy forum...

totster

Welshman · January 17, 2006

I thought it was quite obvious -

Love is when you lose all reason or common sense, refuse to listen to the advice of others and generally behave like a moron dosed up on Prozac.

creation2474 · January 17, 2006

Love=like strongly

stumonster · January 17, 2006

love is a word used to sell , music ,movies , stuff etc to those who do not wish to be left out.

markuk · January 17, 2006

no i dont maybe a heat of the moment thing?

Ulysses G. · January 17, 2006

Utter misery?

suegha · January 17, 2006

It's times like this I wish there was a private philosophy forum...
totster

I'd second this!

However, the poll was about sexual/romantic love. I'd have to say, and this wasn't a choice, many of the above.

Also, to a degree the English language is difficult, I can say, I love my car, I love diving, I love my wife, I love Thai food, I love surfing the web, etc. To an English speaker these can make perfect sense, and yet I have not gone into the many different types of 'Love' that exists. To add to the philosophical debate - All these loves are part of the one and only greatest love.

What's the song that went 'Love is, the sweetest thing...'

ThaiPauly · January 17, 2006

This thread has no begining and no end.

Love means so many diferent things to different folks.

I could not even vote as I cant see the point personally, and I could write my definition of love but it would take all night, and I bet many feel the same

zaz · January 17, 2006

The meaning of love is very simple - it's just a stronger version of "like" (as someone has already stated above). It's no more complicated than that is it?

the_heart_thief · January 17, 2006

Love

It comes in different disguises.

1. Someone at the park who eyed-you.

2. A friend.

3. Family.

4. Someone you met in the street, who made your heart-beat falter.

5. A stranger who melts your heart the first time you met.

6. Unreasonable Rush of Blood to the Head when you see someone.

7. Butterflies in the stomach.

8. etc. etc. etc.

The mystery is this ---- we don't really know how long LOVE will imprison us. Some love last for a lifetime, 15 years, 5 years, others even last for a day and some for only a minute or a second. So enjoy LOVE while you can.

Tippaporn · January 17, 2006

One argument, what about the very first person you fall in love with? If it is your very first incarnation, it cannot be based on memories.

but how is one to know it is truly the first time/incarnation?

Just like the little boy in the garden that Socrates and Menon confronted. As far as the little boy knew, it was his first time he had ever been confronted with the arithmatic problem (which he ended up solving).

Aparently, all the answers lie within the soul, which according to Socrates logic if I recall right, has existed forever...No birth/particular origin that he explains

Actually, the better explanation would be that time is simultaneous, something physicists seem to agree about, and which makes perfect sense given other explanations I've heard on the nature of reality. The physical apparatus is so designed as to experience the "now" linearly as a series of moments, one after another. A hard concept to wrap your brain around if time is all you know. But again, quite logical given the balance of the theory.

Next . . .

greenwanderer108 · January 18, 2006

One argument, what about the very first person you fall in love with? If it is your very first incarnation, it cannot be based on memories.

but how is one to know it is truly the first time/incarnation?

Just like the little boy in the garden that Socrates and Menon confronted. As far as the little boy knew, it was his first time he had ever been confronted with the arithmatic problem (which he ended up solving).

Aparently, all the answers lie within the soul, which according to Socrates logic if I recall right, has existed forever...No birth/particular origin that he explains

Actually, the better explanation would be that time is simultaneous, something physicists seem to agree about, and which makes perfect sense given other explanations I've heard on the nature of reality. The physical apparatus is so designed as to experience the "now" linearly as a series of moments, one after another. A hard concept to wrap your brain around if time is all you know. But again, quite logical given the balance of the theory.

Next . . .

Simultaneous as in moving in both directions?? The observer is a key here. Relativity

Being that the observer's mind is trained to observe space and time in an orderly fashion (the physical apparatus) there is no way for that 'victim of love' to discern whether it is something new or something that already exists (merely being recalled/observed/felt again)

But I would argue that there is no such thing as feeling love for the first time. Even if you don't believe in reincarnation and the likes, think about the psychology development of the concept...How does a fetus/embroyo experience love? While in the womb, love is a matter of physical necessity, not emotional, which doesn't 'just happen' but is rooted in the physical chain reaction in reproduction...so in this sense the essense of love can be traced back to merging/splitting of cells.

While in the womb, our brains and minds are simple...life is simple...love is simple...there is no beginning and there is no end....untill our brains are exposed to the macro....society

love comes in all directions. Aunts and uncles squeezing cheeks, women at the mall, couzins, grandmas....it is everyone's duty to show the new baby 'love'. And a child with a simple mind who has only ever known love through the embilical cord and a nipple, how does he/she grasp this new mult-dynamic concept?

This is where I believe humans resemble a hard-disc rather than a cd-write. Somewhere in the brain/sole, there is an archive of waves of everything ever felt and to be felt. It's just the matter of how we access them...

Tippaporn · January 18, 2006

Not sure where you're getting your ideas from but I'd have to say I'm not familiar with the concepts as you explain them. Pretty heavy, greenwanderer. But I think we lost the audience. This is definitely leaning towards a philosophical discussion that would probably best be taken elsewhere. I'd be tempted to discuss but not here.