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Clearing Overstay

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Hi everyone,

I'm new to this forum so please be nice lol

i'm on an overstayed visa of 8 years, and i am now financially ready to clear it up. I have never done anything else illegal in my life. I have just recieved my new passport now i'm stuck on how to clear my overstay without being detained and deported because i have a young boy of 1 year which i can't leave behind. (he will stay with his Thai father whilst i sort my overstay problems out)

The Embassy have told me to go with them to court pay the fine of 11,800 baht, i will spend the afternoon in IDC then 4 hours before me flight i will be escorted to the aiport and then on my way.( but no confimation of not being deported)

I contacted another overstay clearer which told me they would take me to the cambodian border, clear the overstay fee of 20,000 baht officer payments 5,000 baht and their fees 5,000 baht. I will be back in Thailand legally within an hour. But i have heard some horror stories of being stopped by police on my way and then being detained, and so on.

Some other people have told me to pay at the airport on the way out, but the Embassy told me, because i have such a long overstay my entry might not be on the computer any longer which might cause problems.

Could someone give me some advice please, now i'm financially ready i just want to clear everything and become legal, plan to get married to my Thai bf and apply for a marriage visa.

I just want my future for me and my son to be problem free

I need to return ASAP if possible so my son is away from his mother too long, i would even do a u-turn journey to England and back if possible.

* I know people are probably gonna blame me and give smart answers, but if you have a heart you would understand that i'm trying *

Thankyou for any answers in advance.

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I would do it legal - either with your Embassy court appearance and departure or doing yourself (knowing it could be a problem but most likely would not). I would take my chance with airport as you are not going to be deported and if payment is made that will be the end of it and you can obtain a proper visa for return with a short trip to Malaysia or elsewhere. If you have your old passport your arrival should be clear in that. If you do not and have no idea of date of arrival it could be an issue but in general immigration goes out of there way to be helpful for those trying to get legal.

my UK friend was 4 years overstay

he came into some money by an inheritance

so he went out four days ago at the airport

paid the 20,000 overstay

no problems, very polite etc

had two days in KL

came back, got 30 days on entry, no comment by Immigration on entry and he is now planning to get a retirement visa

Edited by timekeeper

We do not need flames or flame humor. Thanks.

Hi Farlang,

by all means keep us posted upon your return and applying for a " Marriage O-Visa", especially if you (at present), are not yet married to the mother of your son. This with regard to your Overstay-Record. As far as I know, the fact that you have a son in Thailand will not likely help you a lot as far as immigration is concerned.

Good luck to you and stay away from the "Overstay-Regulators" near the Cambodian Border.

Cheers.

Farlang 2012 where are you in Thailand?

Send a PM if need be.

I had an overstay of 1 year and called the immigration officer at the border at chong chom.. He told me to go see him and i paid the 20k baht and gave him another 1000 baht.. sadly he is in korat immigration now.. I was out of thailand and back in 20 minutes.. go the Airport route you wont have a problem

Why do it harder when you can do it easier?

It takes 5 minutes, yes only 5 minutes, to clear a visa overstay.

I have a close friend of mine who did have also an overstay nearly as long as yours.

He just show up at the airport with 20 000 baht, and yes indeed he was not in their computer list.

But it didnt matter as it just take 5 minutes to clear his problem.

While processing his case the officer just ask him if can speak thai, and if he will come back.

That it! so dont bother with court, lawyer, idc... Dont put yourself in hard time...

And also dont believe all the horror story, its just pure bs.

ps: i dont advice anybody to overstay his visa, because if you found yourself in trouble(victim, accident...). No visa mean bigger trouble.

Good trip.

Edited by Bender

There is strong reason not to deport or blacklist you actually because you are mother of a Thai citizen.

I would speak to a good immigration lawyer.

Personally I would take the Cambodian Border option..

PS: If you marry your Thai partner, then you have more rights than any guy on this forum will ever have.

Edited by Satcommlee

A friend had a 20 year overstay. He went to the Laos border in Nong Khai, paid the fine, and was cleared. Went to Laos and returned. No peoblem. He says the immigration office personal were very nice and polite. Just don't get caught before you get to where ever you're leaving from.

There is one reason to go to court: the court will give a lower fine then immigration.

Overstay leads to deportation (you have to leave the country) but not to blacklisting.

Having a Thai child is not an excuse to overstay.

This is my 500th post, not many!

The OP's real problem is getting a stamp in his new passport!

To do that he will have to surrender to an immigration office not at the airport!

They will arrest him and take him to court and yes for a fee he can pay the express fee, but due to our friend Andrew Christopher Michael Wallaces behavior , he will be deported to his home country and his passport put in the hand of the airline captain to be given to immigration officials in his home country.

Normal procedure is now this transfer to new passport takes place at airport immigration on exit if entry has not been officially extended at an immigration office. We do not know OP status prior to overstay however or if overstay will modify the normal transfer at airport procedure.

Am sure that the OP is a woman

Copied and pasted from the original post

"i have a young boy of 1 year which i can't leave behind. (he will stay with his Thai father whilst i sort my overstay problems out)"

This is my 500th post, not many!

The OP's real problem is getting a stamp in his new passport!

To do that he will have to surrender to an immigration office not at the airport!

They will arrest him and take him to court and yes for a fee he can pay the express fee, but due to our friend Andrew Christopher Michael Wallaces behavior http://www.thaivisa....ted-in-bangkok/ , he will be deported to his home country and his passport put in the hand of the airline captain to be given to immigration officials in his home country.

As Lopburi says it all done at the airport or land crossing not need to surrender to immigration as you say and i have know idea what the link to wallaces has to do with it !!!! bad advice iignore badbanker
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Thankyou for all reply so far. :)

This is my 500th post, not many!

The OP's real problem is getting a stamp in his new passport!

To do that he will have to surrender to an immigration office not at the airport!

They will arrest him and take him to court and yes for a fee he can pay the express fee, but due to our friend Andrew Christopher Michael Wallaces behavior http://www.thaivisa....ted-in-bangkok/ , he will be deported to his home country and his passport put in the hand of the airline captain to be given to immigration officials in his home country.

As Lopburi says it all done at the airport or land crossing not need to surrender to immigration as you say and i have know idea what the link to wallaces has to do with it !!!! bad advice iignore badbanker

Funny my mate had to hand himself in at a local police station, who then told him to go to Immigration, and this information was given to him by the Embassy

This is my 500th post, not many!

The OP's real problem is getting a stamp in his new passport!

To do that he will have to surrender to an immigration office not at the airport!

They will arrest him and take him to court and yes for a fee he can pay the express fee, but due to our friend Andrew Christopher Michael Wallaces behavior http://www.thaivisa....ted-in-bangkok/ , he will be deported to his home country and his passport put in the hand of the airline captain to be given to immigration officials in his home country.

As Lopburi says it all done at the airport or land crossing not need to surrender to immigration as you say and i have know idea what the link to wallaces has to do with it !!!! bad advice iignore badbanker

Funny my mate had to hand himself in at a local police station, who then told him to go to Immigration, and this information was given to him by the Embassy

sorry but UK embassy would not take any advice from them, am uk citizen but am ashamed to be, another story thats why i only use my OZ passport

Good luck with the airport! I have seen a number of people who have not got their visa stamped into their new passport at the airport, especially if the original passport is lost or the person has a long overstay. The airport only has an immigration history of I believe 5 years, any other clearance would have to come from Immigration Head Office. Which means arrest at the airport and being taken to the IDC at Soi Suan Plu, court, fine and deportation to your country of origin.

"Some other people have told me to pay at the airport on the way out, but the Embassy told me, because i have such a long overstay my entry might not be on the computer any longer which might cause problems." (quote from OP)

No one is going to just stamp your passport and let you fly anywhere merrily with out verifying that you entered legitimately.

'MikeandDow' people are welcome to ignore me and my advice, and I get to see them at the IDC! I do this for a living!

Edited by Badbanker

My friend has just paid he's 7 year overstay at the airport in BKK he walked upto the check in desk and said he lost track of time, they took him to a room he paid the 20.000 Baht overstay , all the customs guy;s had a good larf about it and he will be back in September with his new visa , he told me if you get caught before you get to the airport it's a 40.000 Baht fine . But once your inside the airport all you pay is maximum fine only 20.000 Baht .

all the very best and don't worry.about it to much.

Boyce

Good luck with the airport! I have seen a number of people who have not got their visa stamped into their new passport at the airport, especially if the original passport is lost or the person has a long overstay. The airport only has an immigration history of I believe 5 years, any other clearance would have to come from Immigration Head Office. Which means arrest at the airport and being taken to the IDC at Soi Suan Plu, court, fine and deportation to your country of origin.

"Some other people have told me to pay at the airport on the way out, but the Embassy told me, because i have such a long overstay my entry might not be on the computer any longer which might cause problems." (quote from OP)

No one is going to just stamp your passport and let you fly anywhere merrily with out verifying that you entered legitimately.

'MikeandDow' people are welcome to ignore me and my advice, and I get to see them at the IDC! I do this for a living!

Badbanker

What actually do you do for a living? and for whom? is it a commercial company such as a visa company here or some kind of legal translator for another company(lawyers)

I have looked at your posts here and some are very helpful......others i see as scaremongering due to the evidence of several people who have fronted up at the airport or a border and payed there overstay fine and been on there way even with a new passport and the old stamp in there old passport some as old as 20 years which happened not so long ago at a land border crossing.

This is not about the silly argument of getting pulled over on the road or streets and asked for your visa/passport because that is well documented that if you do ...you will be arrested and taken to the IDC to appear in court yes......and then pay the fine or do your time and then pay your ticket to your own country.

I just would like you to clarify your involvement in the court appearance and for whom you work for then maybe we can see what you actually "do for a living"

This is not a flame just a genuine question so as to understand the immigration's policy on this more and also why so many people do get out at the airport with massive O/S(new passport)contrary to what you are stating here.

use the Thai-Cambodian version.

2of my friends have recently used the service of one of these people and they have,in the meantime obtained Thai Visas from a Thai Embassy in another country, the fee is same as mentioend.

A PM has been send to OP.

Do not believe your Embassy. Going to Court and being deported is hell.

And do not go to Airport if you have new passport and no stamp in passport.

Edited by visarunner

A friend had a 20 year overstay. He went to the Laos border in Nong Khai, paid the fine, and was cleared. Went to Laos and returned. No peoblem. He says the immigration office personal were very nice and polite. Just don't get caught before you get to where ever you're leaving from.

Personally I have my doubt about this story.

Non extension of stay departure on new passport is by stamps at airport/departure point and routine - indeed that is what would be done at a land border crossing so there should not be any extra fee's involved. That 8 years overstay may complicate matters is possible but departure at airport it is a legal option.

Good luck with the airport! I have seen a number of people who have not got their visa stamped into their new passport at the airport, especially if the original passport is lost or the person has a long overstay. The airport only has an immigration history of I believe 5 years, any other clearance would have to come from Immigration Head Office. Which means arrest at the airport and being taken to the IDC at Soi Suan Plu, court, fine and deportation to your country of origin.

"Some other people have told me to pay at the airport on the way out, but the Embassy told me, because i have such a long overstay my entry might not be on the computer any longer which might cause problems." (quote from OP)

No one is going to just stamp your passport and let you fly anywhere merrily with out verifying that you entered legitimately.

'MikeandDow' people are welcome to ignore me and my advice, and I get to see them at the IDC! I do this for a living!

Badbanker

What actually do you do for a living? and for whom? is it a commercial company such as a visa company here or some kind of legal translator for another company(lawyers)

I have looked at your posts here and some are very helpful......others i see as scaremongering due to the evidence of several people who have fronted up at the airport or a border and payed there overstay fine and been on there way even with a new passport and the old stamp in there old passport some as old as 20 years which happened not so long ago at a land border crossing.

This is not about the silly argument of getting pulled over on the road or streets and asked for your visa/passport because that is well documented that if you do ...you will be arrested and taken to the IDC to appear in court yes......and then pay the fine or do your time and then pay your ticket to your own country.

I just would like you to clarify your involvement in the court appearance and for whom you work for then maybe we can see what you actually "do for a living"

This is not a flame just a genuine question so as to understand the immigration's policy on this more and also why so many people do get out at the airport with massive O/S(new passport)contrary to what you are stating here.

Totally agree some people on here give out bad advice

Would it be helpful for the OP's husband and child to come with her to the airport, to "see her off" on her journey? Could possibly make her situation more heartwrenching to the Immigration officers and gain kinder treatment for her.

Would it be helpful for the OP's husband and child to come with her to the airport, to "see her off" on her journey? Could possibly make her situation more heartwrenching to the Immigration officers and gain kinder treatment for her.

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All the more reason not to go to the airport, husband and child will not be allowed in immigration area.

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I don't know what some of you people are talking about. It is quite simple to solve. Present yourself at Immigration Office with the requisite amount of cash ie 20,000 Baht. Pay the bill and get an extension of visa. My pal who had overstayed by 39, yes 39, years just did it with no problems.

Guess you know some monks in the area you're staying.

Take a monk with you when leaving the country,let him explain that you found your way to Buddha, doesn't really matter if you leave by bus, or plane.

A monk will be very helpful. The fact that you've got a child with a Thai man will enable you to get a Thai passport after marrying him.

Guess you know that being polite with a smile in your face, a monk and the fine will fix the problem very easily.

Good luck from lower north-east!------wai.gif

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