webfact Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Kittiratt admits corruptions found in rice-pledging scheme BANGKOK, 10 August 2012 (NNT) – Finance Minister Kittiratt Na Ranong has admitted that there have been reports of corruption in the government’s rice-pledging scheme. Mr Kittiratt said the arrest of the suspects alleged for corruption in the rice-pledging scheme in the Northeast is a good thing. He believed there are more corruption cases that have not been reported. He also stated that he had never promised that the program would totally be be free of corruption . The minister said Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yubamrung has been assigned by the Premier to help eradicating corrupt practices in the scheme. The World Trade Organization (WTO) has earlier commented that the Thai government’s rice-pledging program is a way to subsidize agriculturalists which goes against the WTO’s principle. Mr Kittiratt simply denied the allegation, saying it does not breach the WTO's rules. The rice-pledging scheme has been highly criticized by academics who claim the program will cause a huge loss of up to 100 billion baht. According to them, the government has to seek 260 billion baht in loans, with around 5 billion baht interest per year, to pay for the program. Besides, they claimed that the project will ruin Thai rice export market, lower the Thai rice quality, and that it is plaqued with corruption by investors and politicians involved in the program. -- NNT 2012-08-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siampolee Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Strikes me this is an action to thin out the number of leeches from the scam scheme thus increasing the dividend payments for the political figures involved in the matter. Votes cost money. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Soupdragon Posted August 10, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2012 The rice-pledging scheme has been highly criticized by academics who claim the program will cause a huge loss of up to 100 billion baht. I am getting fed up with hearing how this scheme or that scheme will lose billions of baht. The money will not be 'lost', it will however be redirected into certain individuals pockets. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 How many of the Government MP´s have land? how many rai´s? How many rai´s is rice-fields? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Mr Kittiratt said the arrest of the suspects alleged for corruption in the rice-pledging scheme in the Northeast is a good thing. Corruption in the North-East red federation? Who would have thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiawatcher Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 He 'admits'? Give me a break. Is there anywhere in Thailand where corruption does not exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Mr Kittiratt said the arrest of the suspects alleged for corruption in the rice-pledging scheme in the Northeast is a good thing. Corruption in the North-East red federation? Who would have thought Is 1 scapegoat enough to wipe this major corruption case under the carpet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 DPM Super-Chalerm to the rescue, yet again ! PM-Yingluck should investigate, and heads should roll, this is damaging her brother's government ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Mr Kittiratt said the arrest of the suspects alleged for corruption in the rice-pledging scheme in the Northeast is a good thing. Corruption in the North-East red federation? Who would have thought Is 1 scapegoat enough to wipe this major corruption case under the carpet? Luckily we just had Dept. PM Pol. Captain Chalerm saying that allegedly opposition politicians are involved in crimes downSouth. Coming to their defence I must admit that if so, probably not related to the rice price pledging scheme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 "He also stated that he had never promised that the program would totally be be free of corruption." In fact, when tried previously, the rice pledging scheme was renown for corruption - so what did he change from the previous scheme (other than the price) to prevent corruption recurring? If the answer is nothing (which I suspect) is this not a criminal failure to carry out his duties? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jonclark Posted August 10, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2012 (edited) He also stated that he had never promised that the program would totally be be free of corruption . You shouldn't have to, you were entrusted by the electorate to rule and enforce the laws of the land for their benefit, development and prosperity of the Thai people. So does that mean if government policy and projects are not explicitly promised to be free of corruption, we should all assume that they are riddled with corruption of some sort or another. With morals and ethics like this where are the role models for the younger generation?? Edited August 10, 2012 by jonclark 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 ...should anyone be surprised......by now, we know any project is in the same predicament...and no one can do anything about it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philw Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 11 posts of blah, blah, blah............ There are probably not many precedents for a cabinet minister admitting corruption in a Gov't policy and going public with such an admission. Rather puts the pressure on the government to do something about it. Seems like quite a good start to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Kittiratt Na Ranong has admitted that there have been reports of corruption in the government’s rice-pledging scheme. same as : The United States has admitted there have been reports that Antarctica is cold. Talk about stating the obvious K Kittirat. It might be more enlightening if he had said "There have been reports that the scheme is corruption free". Now, that would be newsworthy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reasonableman Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 (edited) 11 posts of blah, blah, blah............ There are probably not many precedents for a cabinet minister admitting corruption in a Gov't policy and going public with such an admission. Rather puts the pressure on the government to do something about it. Seems like quite a good start to me. Baloney. Lots of good starts (talking) that lack middles (action) and ends (measurable results). You think this a good start? It will also be an ignominious end, if all goes true to form. Edited August 10, 2012 by Reasonableman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 He also stated that he had never promised that the program would totally be be free of corruption . You shouldn't have to, you were entrusted by the electorate to rule and enforce the laws of the land for their benefit, development and prosperity of the Thai people. So does that mean if government policy and projects are not explicitly promised to be free of corruption, we should all assume that they are riddled with corruption of some sort or another. With morals and ethics like this where are the role models for the younger generation?? Out on bail and starring in Thai Soap Operas.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunken Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 11 posts of blah, blah, blah............ There are probably not many precedents for a cabinet minister admitting corruption in a Gov't policy and going public with such an admission. Rather puts the pressure on the government to do something about it. Seems like quite a good start to me. It would be if you believe that PT will do anything about it. Mentioning Chalerm as the the one to investigate is not a good start. Why implement a 'scheme' if you know that it is open to corruption? I think the answer is obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThaiOats Posted August 10, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2012 (edited) 11 posts of blah, blah, blah............There are probably not many precedents for a cabinet minister admitting corruption in a Gov't policy and going public with such an admission. Rather puts the pressure on the government to do something about it. Seems like quite a good start to me. You would defend anything this government does wouldnt you? Thats how it seems anyway and I doubt many of us are mass hallucinating. Many academics, experts, opposition and even TV posters predicted how flawed the scheme would be and you lot thought we were just attacking the government. Let the lot of you believe Chalerm is working tirelessly to end mafia in Phuket, war in deep south, illegal casinos, and corruption in the rice pledging scheme. Let the lot of you believe that the appointed ministers are credible in their field of work, free from self interests. This government is not the one to move this country forward for the sake of the nation. Bring in someone else. Preferably a party that's not lead by a fugitive who cant be held accountable for his string pulling nor the puppet who is no less than saying 'i dont have my own mind and decision, u cant blame me. Youd have to get the master'. But i'm rather convinced that the defenders of this government wont bE able to change their views and support. On the other hand, i'm confident that the anti government are open minded enough to critise any government if found of such blatant corruption or bad policies with the right reasons. Edited August 10, 2012 by ThaiOats 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 (edited) somebody must be getting filthy rich, who else would be shooting themselves and their country not only in the right footh, but both and arms also western country have ponzi schemes here they prefer rice SCAM Edited August 10, 2012 by belg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 He 'admits'? Give me a break. Is there anywhere in Thailand where corruption does not exist? In the Parliament? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Well the report elsewhere was that 3mn tons has somehow been exported out the back door. Just grasp how many trucks that us alone. Thieving buggars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardofel Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Everything is fine with the rice scheme, then it's corrupt...come on you din-a-ling politicians...you're all corrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moruya Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Kittiratt admits corruptions found in rice-pledging scheme BANGKOK, 10 August 2012 (NNT) – Finance Minister Kittiratt Na Ranong has admitted that there have been reports of corruption in the government’s rice-pledging scheme. Mr Kittiratt said the arrest of the suspects alleged for corruption in the rice-pledging scheme in the Northeast is a good thing. He believed there are more corruption cases that have not been reported. He also stated that he had never promised that the program would totally be be free of corruption . The minister said Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yubamrung has been assigned by the Premier to help eradicating corrupt practices in the scheme. The World Trade Organization (WTO) has earlier commented that the Thai government’s rice-pledging program is a way to subsidize agriculturalists which goes against the WTO’s principle. Mr Kittiratt simply denied the allegation, saying it does not breach the WTO's rules. The rice-pledging scheme has been highly criticized by academics who claim the program will cause a huge loss of up to 100 billion baht. According to them, the government has to seek 260 billion baht in loans, with around 5 billion baht interest per year, to pay for the program. Besides, they claimed that the project will ruin Thai rice export market, lower the Thai rice quality, and that it is plaqued with corruption by investors and politicians involved in the program. -- NNT 2012-08-10 Chalerm has been assigned once again.... The expert at making noise in the beginning and making things disappear 5 minutes later Wonder what will happen here Not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khaowong1 Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 The rice-pledging scheme has been highly criticized by academics who claim the program will cause a huge loss of up to 100 billion baht. I am getting fed up with hearing how this scheme or that scheme will lose billions of baht. The money will not be 'lost', it will however be redirected into certain individuals pockets. The Buddha once said, "nothing in the universe is lost", everything finds it's way back to somewhere. In this case, he and you are 100% correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Rather puts the pressure on the government to do something about it. And what are they going to do?? Those involved had made many millions of baht and can easily flex their new found financial muscle to avoid persecution. There is as much chance of those involved seeing the inside of prison as Taskin has. So I ask you what are they going to do to claim back the Thai tax payers money that has been unlawfully stolen and punish those responsible and complicit in this corruption. My bet is pass a couple of bits of token legislation promising to eradicate all future corruption leaving those guilty of past corruption free to enjoy the spoils of their crimes. So glad my hard earned tax money is being used to support these people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waza Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 What a shock, not the fact that there is corruption in the rice pledging scheme but that some one admits it at last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 (edited) What a shock, not the fact that there is corruption in the rice pledging scheme but that some one admits it at last. He only said 'there have been reports ' No doubt there will be a rebuttal coming soon. Last week there was NO PROBLEM with Europe. Or 2 weeks ago rubber. No the <deleted> is hitting the fan. Or is it another smoke screen sent from my Wellcom A90+ Edited August 10, 2012 by thaicbr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 11 posts of blah, blah, blah............ There are probably not many precedents for a cabinet minister admitting corruption in a Gov't policy and going public with such an admission. Rather puts the pressure on the government to do something about it. Seems like quite a good start to me. Now you have hit the nail on the head. Don't expect any thing to happen to the guilty parties. But like you say it is a start. And from a PT who would of thought that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waza Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 What a shock, not the fact that there is corruption in the rice pledging scheme but that some one admits it at last. He only said 'there have been reports ' No doubt there will be a rebuttal coming soon. Last week there was NO PROBLEM with Europe. Or 2 weeks ago rubber. No the <deleted> is hitting the fan. Or is it another smoke screen sent from my Wellcom A90+ Sorry I got a bit excited when Mr Kittyrat said some people were arrested for alleged corruption Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylophone Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Corruption in Thailand.................perish the thought. This whole place is corrupt from top to bottom and more than likely the only reason a politician "admits to/finds" corruption is so that they can be paid off and get their share!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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