HaruHaru Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) Thailand is 103rd on the list countries by Human Development Index. http://en.wikipedia....velopment_Index Edited August 21, 2012 by HaruHaru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli23 Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I will avoid Developed beside an economic success. For me it will be where people can live together with a minimum of respect, healthy care and self sufficient. Then you can judge however you want to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mca Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I think income levels here are almost as high as in the west for most people despite what the numbers say. Well I hardly think so where the daily minimum wage could just about buy a medium pizza from Pizza Company/. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Irrelevant since all of Scotland is developed. I fully agree. Any country that has the foresight and sheer ingenuity to take a humble black pudding and then batter and deep fry it has reached the pinnacle of development. There's simply nowhere left to go. Don't forget the deepfried haggis, ice cream and Mars bars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdsandBooze Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Bangkok has the infrastructure of a developed country because that is where the money is. As for wages, for sure certainly some Thais earn good money but they tend to be well qualified professional types and savvy business people, and there are far far more poorly educated, unskilled low wage earners than there are of those. Thailand as a whole isn`t fully developed but they`re working on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardenedSoul Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Developed nation status may come sooner than we think but I'm sure that a lot of us won't like the idea of a bigger Thai middle class competing for and driving up the prices of the same goods, services and privileges we enjoy comfortably by virtue of a currently significantly higher income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whistleblower Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I think income levels here are almost as high as in the west for most people despite what the numbers say. Well I hardly think so where the daily minimum wage could just about buy a medium pizza from Pizza Company/. Let them eat rice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgs2001uk Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 The OP should consider himself lucky he is in the relative security of his hotel room (we wont even bother getting into safety standards) as opposed to the take your life in your hands that exists on the capitals highways. As long as stuck up HiSo spoiled brats can plough their Mercs into innocent bystanders at a bus stop and not even spend a night in the cells, as long as Little Miss HiSo can cause multiple deaths at Rangsit whilst driving her Honda Civic and as yet not be prosecuted, as long as spoiled brats can cause carnage whilst driving their red Mini Cooper, this country can never be considered developed. Whats the latest on the Mor Muk case? Did the thug who executed someone in a Bkk nightclub ever stand trial or do time, no witnesses, every one of them too terrified to come forward. Hows the New Years nightclub fire case progressing? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Thailand now is 100 years apart from Singapore. Or more... Both countries were at a similar development level 50 years ago. Depends on what values you take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daftpunker Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 You just said thailand is not developed then you said bangkok is.Well big difference there thailand as a whole is not.and to be hinest neither is bangkok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Semper Posted August 21, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted August 21, 2012 When Thailand has developed to western standards, I'm out of here. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 The OP needs to get his head out of his arse in his Bangkok palace and try looking around the rest of the Kingdom. Developed it is not ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
culicine Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 You're right. I'm tired of hearing that Thailand is poor or undeveloped. I think income levels here are almost as high as in the west for most people despite what the numbers say. I see nice cars driving everywhere and nobody seems to be "broke". Even a country like Cambodia has lots of monied people around. I'm not sure there is or ever was such a thing as "poor" country. Not sure how you came to this conclusion that income in Thailand is comparable to Western nations. There are of course concentrations of high income earners, but the average Thai certainly does not qualify. The minimum wage across all provinces in Thailand is soon to be 300 baht a day, even this increase is being resisted by many employers. University graduates will be receiving 15,000 baht a month. Average monthly Income per household in 2011 was 23,544 baht; source http://web.nso.go.th/ And given that each household could have 4-5 workers (large families living together), it doesn't work out to much... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar501 Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I am sure that the average Thai in developing Thailand is much happier than the average American in developed U.S.A. When it all boils down, that is all that really matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze01 Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 You're right. I'm tired of hearing that Thailand is poor or undeveloped. I think income levels here are almost as high as in the west for most people despite what the numbers say. I see nice cars driving everywhere and nobody seems to be "broke". Even a country like Cambodia has lots of monied people around. I'm not sure there is or ever was such a thing as "poor" country. Cough, cough....bullshit.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Nope.....not going with that argument. You could put up a case for BKK being developed but BKK does not represent all Thailand. Does Glasgow represent all Scotland? Irrelevant since all of Scotland is developed. I do recommend a nosegay should you visit Glasgow however, there is a gypsy outside Queen St station selling them for a tanner. Sorry I forgot. Scotland major production Scotch Whiskey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Irrelevant since all of Scotland is developed. I fully agree. Any country that has the foresight and sheer ingenuity to take a humble black pudding and then batter and deep fry it has reached the pinnacle of development. There's simply nowhere left to go. Could chocolate coat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 So what countries are not developing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) You're right. I'm tired of hearing that Thailand is poor or undeveloped. I think income levels here are almost as high as in the west for most people despite what the numbers say. I see nice cars driving everywhere and nobody seems to be "broke". Even a country like Cambodia has lots of monied people around. I'm not sure there is or ever was such a thing as "poor" country. Not sure how you came to this conclusion that income in Thailand is comparable to Western nations. There are of course concentrations of high income earners, but the average Thai certainly does not qualify. The minimum wage across all provinces in Thailand is soon to be 300 baht a day, even this increase is being resisted by many employers. University graduates will be receiving 15,000 baht a month. Average monthly Income per household in 2011 was 23,544 baht; source http://web.nso.go.th/ The wage in Thailand is low but still livable. I know a few college grads in the US making under 20k per year. Try living on that in LA, NY or Chicago. Why do people refer to the wages with out mentioning the cost of living. There are places in Thailand where the cost of living for 6 months is what many foreigners make in a week. The average family has a debt not sure what it is. But in the states they have a debt of over $50,000 per person in their government then you get into their personal credit limit and see people going bankrupt on a regular basis. Not to mention the home less and living conditions on many native reserves. Is that what it takes to be a developed country. And the number of people living on the streets for lack of money. Not because of drinking or drug addiction just because the cost of living is to high and they do not have any family values to hold the family's together. And the personal safety factor. Are you as safe on the streets in the states as you are on the streets in Thailand? Maybe Thailand is not developed but it sure has some bright points that many in the so called developed nations only dream about. There is much room in Thailand for improvement but in many cases socially they are way ahead of the Developed Nations. Edited August 21, 2012 by hellodolly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Yes, BKK is quite well developed ... for a swamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 When Thailand has developed to western standards, I'm out of here. Are you talking about the standards they put forth or the ones they live there day to day life on. Two different animals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaullyW Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) http://dictionary.re...veloping nation developing nation Cultural Dictionary developing nation definition A nation where the average income is much lower than inindustrial nations, where the economy relies on a few exportcrops, and where farming is conducted by primitive methods. In many developing nations, rapid population growth threatens thesupply of food. Developing nations have also been called underdeveloped nations. Most of them are in Africa, Asia, and Latin America. ( See also Third World.) Edited August 21, 2012 by PaullyW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaullyW Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) http://en.wikipedia....veloped_country Developed Country A developed country or "more developed country" (MDC), is a sovereign state which has a highly developed economy and advanced technological infrastructure relative to other less developed nations. Most commonly the criteria for evaluating the degree of economic development is gross domestic product (GDP), the per capita income, level of industrialization, amount of widespread infrastructure and general standard of living.[1] Which criteria is to be used and which countries are classified as being developed is a contentious issue. Developed countries have post-industrial economies, meaning the service sector provides more wealth than theindustrial sector. They are contrasted with developing countries, which are in the process of industrialization, or undeveloped countries, which are pre-industrial and almost entirely agrarian. According to the International Monetary Fund, advanced economies comprise 65.8% of global nominal GDP and 52.1% of global GDP (PPP) in 2010.[2] In 2011, The ten largest advanced economies by either nominal GDP or GDP (PPP) are the United States,Japan, Germany, France, the United Kingdom, Italy, Canada, Spain, South Korea, and Australia.[3][4] Edited August 21, 2012 by PaullyW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaullyW Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 So, no, Thailand (nor even Bangkok) is developed. Stop kidding yourselves, guys. We haven't even started discussing the complete absence of the rule of law (a fundamental requirement for a country to be really considered among the "developed" nations). Nor have we discussed how cheaply life is treated here. Nor have we discussed attitudes toward all manner of corruption. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxme Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Time to "develop" some new nomenclature based on some more meaningful attributes. If any country needs to be in a "developing country" category it is the US. And I hold all the others supposed developed countries in equally high regard. To call a country developed is an easy way to overlook all the ways that it is glaringly not developed. Every country should be a developing country or should simply be called stagnant or in even worse situations a failing state. I do believe to be called a developed country it starts with having a functional government and since when has Thailand had that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJIC Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) You're right. I'm tired of hearing that Thailand is poor or undeveloped. I think income levels here are almost as high as in the west for most people despite what the numbers say. I see nice cars driving everywhere and nobody seems to be "broke". Even a country like Cambodia has lots of monied people around. I'm not sure there is or ever was such a thing as "poor" country. And this is the false illusion that spending too much time in Bangkok gives one.Try seeing the Poor villages,and villagers especially in Isaan,and many other Provinces a completely new perspective emerges. Bangkok is where the money is,because it's had a lot poured into the infrastructure,(the villages don't have broken pavements,because there are none),over many decades Edited August 21, 2012 by MAJIC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze01 Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 So what countries are not developing? With a few exceptions, the entire continent of Africa. That should keep you busy for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze01 Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Yes, BKK is quite well developed ... for a swamp. And just like New Orleans, Venice, Houston, New York and Shanghai, the sea will reclaim them in due time. http://travel.usnews.com/features/7_Cities_About_to_Sink/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze01 Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Time to "develop" some new nomenclature based on some more meaningful attributes. If any country needs to be in a "developing country" category it is the US. And I hold all the others supposed developed countries in equally high regard. To call a country developed is an easy way to overlook all the ways that it is glaringly not developed. Every country should be a developing country or should simply be called stagnant or in even worse situations a failing state. I do believe to be called a developed country it starts with having a functional government and since when has Thailand had that? That doesn't wash, just look at the US. They haven't had a functioning government in 12 years and still muddle along. For how much longer I don't know, but it was fun while it lasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxme Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Time to "develop" some new nomenclature based on some more meaningful attributes. If any country needs to be in a "developing country" category it is the US. And I hold all the others supposed developed countries in equally high regard. To call a country developed is an easy way to overlook all the ways that it is glaringly not developed. Every country should be a developing country or should simply be called stagnant or in even worse situations a failing state. I do believe to be called a developed country it starts with having a functional government and since when has Thailand had that? That doesn't wash, just look at the US. They haven't had a functioning government in 12 years and still muddle along. For how much longer I don't know, but it was fun while it lasted. That's a far reach... The tax dollar may not always go where we want it to go but some of it do get out. Can you say the same when it comes to the Thai government? I do believe that the US military do protect the government and do not incite anarchy on the streets... as far as I remember. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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