xastunts Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 I did a home made mod today! Removed the pillion hand grip at the rear and placed white plastics to cover the wholes after. This is just temporarly as I want to install the race seat that totally removes the pillion seat and replaces with a nice rounded white plastics. But in the meantime this is what I got I think it looks so much better without the hand grips at the rear. Looks like a scooter setup with those on. Let me know what you guys think! Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Personally I think the handgrips look quite nice on the 500. They look like mean devil horns. Haha! Come on! no real sport bike has no rear grip! For a true spots look those has to go Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xastunts Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Go to tarad Poon Sup in Pathum Thani, those guys can make you any sticker you want and it is very cheap.Tarad market? Poon sup is the name of market?Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Google maps coordinates of tarad Poon Sup 14.005053,100.55872 Make sure to bring someone with you who speaks Thai, because nobody there speaks English. Thanks for the gps location! .when you say they can do any sticker I want I suppose I can just give them a photo file of the sticker and they got printer to just print them out on the go then? Yeah to live in thailand you should learn the language! I speak fluent thai but yet not native. I never cared of learning to read though! For those kind of things I got my thai gf to help Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) I did a home made mod today! Removed the pillion hand grip at the rear and placed white plastics to cover the wholes after. This is just temporarly as I want to install the race seat that totally removes the pillion seat and replaces with a nice rounded white plastics. But in the meantime this is what I got I think it looks so much better without the hand grips at the rear. Looks like a scooter setup with those on. Let me know what you guys think! Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Personally I think the handgrips look quite nice on the 500. They look like mean devil horns. Bramds i think the same about the handgrips on cbr500r. They look cool and devilish yes! They look nice together with the sharp rear end. I liked the ones on cbr250 more though, they look more devilish. But they have to go on the track. Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Edited May 19, 2013 by loserlazer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiNiro Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 The Motorcycle gear shop in MBK, Rider DNA - 6th floor?, custom paints helmets. Look real nice. I assume he could airbrush your bike. Nice guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlos Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 LL Your saying you felt like you had a ignition cut off at a certain speed but you were not near redline? Did it just feel like a major bog? Maybe it is a fuel feed related deal & not ignition per se' Yes mania. I was not near redline - but close - and it cut. I thought about a fuelling problem but i redline every gear so why it needs to wait until 189 kmh at 6th gear magically? Still cbr500r is smooth and very stable at 189 kmh. Not even a shake and wants to go faster as still there is more room up there. Cool bike. I took my friends CBR500 out for a spin Friday night. Very smooth linear power delivery, certainly a great bike for those new to bikes or as an introduction to bigger bike As for its top speed, i managed to reach 185km/h (took quite some time to get there) it felt more like the bike ran out of power rather than a limiter of any kind, there's substantial wind resistance at such speeds and i don't think the bike will be able to pull much more than the 189km/h you already hit (Stock bike on a level surface) Karl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlos Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 *No idea why my reply is inside LL's quote box'...I took my friends CBR500 out for a spin Friday night.Very smooth linear power delivery, certainly a great bike for those new tobikes or as an introduction to bigger bikes.As for its top speed, i managed to reach 185km/h (took quite some time to getthere) it felt more like the bike ran out of power rather than a limiter of anykind, there's substantial wind resistance at such speeds and i don't think thebike will be able to pull much more than the 189km/h you already hit (Stockbike on a level surface)Karl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) LL I really think that is the bikes capability....Here is a theoretical calculator for you to play with.... Now my friends er6 maxed out at 220 in top gear without hitting redline and he has quite a few mods....pipe, sprockets etc!!! http://www.gearingcommander.com/ I always liked that site It is cool to look at the various gearing configurations & their effects all else being equal Edited May 19, 2013 by mania 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xastunts Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 LL I really think that is the bikes capability....Here is a theoretical calculator for you to play with.... Now my friends er6 maxed out at 220 in top gear without hitting redline and he has quite a few mods....pipe, sprockets etc!!! http://www.gearingcommander.com/ I always liked that siteIt is cool to look at the various gearing configurations & their effects all else being equal Nice site mania! But at the moment they don't have the charts for our cbr500R bike. Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) LL I really think that is the bikes capability....Here is a theoretical calculator for you to play with.... Now my friends er6 maxed out at 220 in top gear without hitting redline and he has quite a few mods....pipe, sprockets etc!!! http://www.gearingcommander.com/ I always liked that site It is cool to look at the various gearing configurations & their effects all else being equal Nice site mania! But at the moment they don't have the charts for our cbr500R bike. Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Load the Honda CBR250 & then I guess you need your primary ratio which I guess you have it in your manuals? Then Just load your sprocket sizes ( also not online for Honda??? )& rpm range & change tire sizes all in the custom or current section Then save as your personal profile & it will save as a cookie on your computer Edited May 19, 2013 by mania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xastunts Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 LL I really think that is the bikes capability....Here is a theoretical calculator for you to play with.... Now my friends er6 maxed out at 220 in top gear without hitting redline and he has quite a few mods....pipe, sprockets etc!!! http://www.gearingcommander.com/ I always liked that siteIt is cool to look at the various gearing configurations & their effects all else being equal Nice site mania! But at the moment they don't have the charts for our cbr500R bike.Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Load the Honda CBR250 & then I guess you need your primary ratio which I guess you have it in your manuals?Then Just load your sprocket sizes ( also not online for Honda??? )& rpm range & change tire sizes all in the custom or current section Then save as your personal profile & it will save as a cookie on your computer Does it works that way? What about the difference in hp and torque? Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) Does it works that way? What about the difference in hp and torque? Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app When your looking at gearing you are looking at distance traveled in what is called gear inches That is arrived at by gear inches & wheel diameter The distance is termed by a revolution so rpm is what is needed to be known not hp or torque PS: Very good help section on that site Go click help > Help on using GC > Enter Manually Or click resulting speed etc for explanations Or Gearing Basics etc. PSS: Remember this kind of thing os all theoretical too meaning you will have wind / drag etc which will make each persons situation different But it is a good guideline to see " Theoretical" speeds etc. Edited May 19, 2013 by mania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xastunts Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Does it works that way? What about the difference in hp and torque? Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app When your looking at gearing you are looking at distance traveled in what is called gear inchesThat is arrived at by gear inches & wheel diameter The distance is termed by a revolution so rpm is what is needed to be known not hp or torque PS: Very good help section on that site Go click help > Help on using GC > Enter Manually Or click resulting speed etc for explanations Or Gearing Basics etc. PSS: Remember this kind of thing os all theoretical too meaning you will have wind / drag etc which will make each persons situation different But it is a good guideline to see " Theoretical" speeds etc. Are you sure about this? ? If you only needed to input rpm wich is revs per minute no matter what engine displacement you where on then any bike at those rpm could achieve those speeds using just those same gear ratios and sprockets and wheel size! I surely believe weight mass length of bike and hp and torque will all Come together for an proper analysis together with rpm. I am thinking a cbr 150 with even higher rpm than our 500R s would with this diagram run faster... If only rpm matters right? But then my question is will the bike maintain those rpm when the speed is increased? So therefore I was thinking that maybe this charts are not correct. .. are you following me? Very interesting subject though mania Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) Are you sure about this?Yes I think I am Imagine you have a wheel say it is what ever diameter....17" for instance From a starting line/point ...Imagine it makes one revolution...it has traveled x amount of inches Imagine X amount of those revolutions per minute it has traveled x amount of inches per minute/ per hour etc. That is the beginning basics now you need to visualize all the ratios of various gear configurations Your idea about a higher revving 150 vs a 500 only makes sense if they both are turning the same gear ratios.....They are not The charts are correct...Or will be if you input the proper info of what your running. It is math plain & simple .....well ok maybe not simple at times lol Edited May 19, 2013 by mania 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup3r1or Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Anyone looks at this http://www.cbr500.net/cbr/500/ecu/cbr-500-ecu.html Also Mania I was looking at things to make bike look better, nice indicators, sliders, clutch and brake handles, maybe change the rear a bit where the number place, something smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candypants Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I did a home made mod today! Removed the pillion hand grip at the rear and placed white plastics to cover the wholes after. This is just temporarly as I want to install the race seat that totally removes the pillion seat and replaces with a nice rounded white plastics. But in the meantime this is what I got I think it looks so much better without the hand grips at the rear. Looks like a scooter setup with those on. Let me know what you guys think! Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app why not spray the plastic insets white? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candypants Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I just looked the photos I uploaded and maybe I should just but a can of white spray and spray those plastics parts. I think I might do that. Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app hah, i should have read further 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee99 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Anyone looks at this http://www.cbr500.net/cbr/500/ecu/cbr-500-ecu.html Also Mania I was looking at things to make bike look better, nice indicators, sliders, clutch and brake handles, maybe change the rear a bit where the number place, something smaller. No way would i buy that until its tried and proven to do something. Imagine a company programing ecus that have the worst website going... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBR250 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Back to the shim question. Just had the 1000 km service. Cost over 2000 baht, including 800 baht for shims. As the shims themselves cost FA, them this is labour cost of 800 baht for about one or two hours work at most. A bit steep. And they replaced 5 shims, so it looks like the check was necessary. And I don't get why the synthetic oil they suggest is so expensive, nor why it is used so early in life of the engine. I thought synthetics are best used after engine is well bedded in - say 5000 km +?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bramds Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Back to the shim question. Just had the 1000 km service. Cost over 2000 baht, including 800 baht for shims. As the shims themselves cost FA, them this is labour cost of 800 baht for about one or two hours work at most. A bit steep. And they replaced 5 shims, so it looks like the check was necessary. And I don't get why the synthetic oil they suggest is so expensive, nor why it is used so early in life of the engine. I thought synthetics are best used after engine is well bedded in - say 5000 km +?? My 1000 km service cost 1923 baht. The labour cost is for 3 hours of labour, not only for replacing the shims, but the other things they do too. 300 baht per hour ain't that much. Do you want to work for 300 baht per hour? Didn't think so. I went to Pirelli the other day and I had to pay a service charge of 600 baht for a 20 minute job. If you want quality and western standards, you will pay for it. But I don't mind paying it here, as back home it will cost more than double. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee99 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Back to the shim question. Just had the 1000 km service. Cost over 2000 baht, including 800 baht for shims. As the shims themselves cost FA, them this is labour cost of 800 baht for about one or two hours work at most. A bit steep. And they replaced 5 shims, so it looks like the check was necessary. And I don't get why the synthetic oil they suggest is so expensive, nor why it is used so early in life of the engine. I thought synthetics are best used after engine is well bedded in - say 5000 km +?? They have a oil mafia here same as the cheese mafia. Oil is crazy priced here. You dont have to use synthetic do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 yeah, sometime they are funny in Bigwing Bangkok. 'That oil is expensive', 'why changing oil and filter every 3000 km?' etc. I heard these from them many times and last, i said to them in a serious way like " Hey, this is my money" and after that they said " OK, up to the customer":) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBR250 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 My 1000 km service cost 1923 baht. The labour cost is for 3 hours of labour, not only for replacing the shims, but the other things they do too. 300 baht per hour ain't that much. Do you want to work for 300 baht per hour? Didn't think so. Read my post a bit more carefully - the charge ONLY for shims was 800 baht. For about one hours work. And no, before you ask, I don't work for 800 baht an hour either. But neither do mechanics in Thailand - they are lucky to get 150 an hour, so the price is mostly unearned profit for the dealer. Compare this approach to the service charges for my CBR250 at a non-BigWing Honda dealer - I pay only for oil and parts - labour costs for service charges were built into the profit margin. I think that the BigWings are being a bit Greedy. And I have been told by Japanese friends that the Thai made CB500 in Japan costs ONLY for oil and parts, no extra labour charges for first service, including shim adjustment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wong! Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Back to the shim question. Just had the 1000 km service. Cost over 2000 baht, including 800 baht for shims. As the shims themselves cost FA, them this is labour cost of 800 baht for about one or two hours work at most. A bit steep. And they replaced 5 shims, so it looks like the check was necessary. And I don't get why the synthetic oil they suggest is so expensive, nor why it is used so early in life of the engine. I thought synthetics are best used after engine is well bedded in - say 5000 km +?? I'd say because the Bangkok lot are crooks and only intereseted in fleecing you. Udon Big Wing offered me 2 choices; Semi-synthetic (recommended by them and cheaper) or fully-synthetic. I will use the semi for the next year after the 1000k service and then change to fully after then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee99 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 (edited) Back to the shim question. Just had the 1000 km service. Cost over 2000 baht, including 800 baht for shims. As the shims themselves cost FA, them this is labour cost of 800 baht for about one or two hours work at most. A bit steep. And they replaced 5 shims, so it looks like the check was necessary. And I don't get why the synthetic oil they suggest is so expensive, nor why it is used so early in life of the engine. I thought synthetics are best used after engine is well bedded in - say 5000 km +?? My 1000 km service cost 1923 baht. The labour cost is for 3 hours of labour, not only for replacing the shims, but the other things they do too. 300 baht per hour ain't that much. Do you want to work for 300 baht per hour? Didn't think so. I went to Pirelli the other day and I had to pay a service charge of 600 baht for a 20 minute job. If you want quality and western standards, you will pay for it. But I don't mind paying it here, as back home it will cost more than double. I would be more then happy to take a job for $10 per hour no taxs especially here in thailand...thats almost 50% more then USA minimum wage....Mosr falang school teachers with a degree dont make that here... I went to showpow (pirelli) and no service and free drinks and free internet Edited May 23, 2013 by yankee99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 My 1000 km service cost 1923 baht. The labour cost is for 3 hours of labour, not only for replacing the shims, but the other things they do too. 300 baht per hour ain't that much. Do you want to work for 300 baht per hour? Didn't think so. Read my post a bit more carefully - the charge ONLY for shims was 800 baht. For about one hours work. And no, before you ask, I don't work for 800 baht an hour either. But neither do mechanics in Thailand - they are lucky to get 150 an hour, so the price is mostly unearned profit for the dealer. Compare this approach to the service charges for my CBR250 at a non-BigWing Honda dealer - I pay only for oil and parts - labour costs for service charges were built into the profit margin. I think that the BigWings are being a bit Greedy. And I have been told by Japanese friends that the Thai made CB500 in Japan costs ONLY for oil and parts, no extra labour charges for first service, including shim adjustment. Strange. Honda charges labor for 1000 km service of 500 series all over the world. I do not think so you can survive in japan without labor cost. You are talking about one of the most expensive countries in this world! Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS1 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Just sat on a CBR 500 and i must say...i like ! Feels incredibly nimble for a 500, almost more so than the 250. Will be buying one when the secondhand market starts to trickle down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commande Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Just sat on a CBR 500 and i must say...i like ! Feels incredibly nimble for a 500, almost more so than the 250. Will be buying one when the secondhand market starts to trickle down. Mine will be for sale very soon but you have to like Red - will be posting a sales add in a week or so here on Thai Visa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS1 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Just sat on a CBR 500 and i must say...i like ! Feels incredibly nimble for a 500, almost more so than the 250. Will be buying one when the secondhand market starts to trickle down. Mine will be for sale very soon but you have to like Red - will be posting a sales add in a week or so here on Thai Visa. Reds my color ! but im waiting for a larger price drop next year. Your going to be able to sell that CBR 500 of yours in a blink of an eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expatsupreme Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Did anybody think about painting the bike in black? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xastunts Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Back to the shim question. Just had the 1000 km service. Cost over 2000 baht, including 800 baht for shims. As the shims themselves cost FA, them this is labour cost of 800 baht for about one or two hours work at most. A bit steep. And they replaced 5 shims, so it looks like the check was necessary. And I don't get why the synthetic oil they suggest is so expensive, nor why it is used so early in life of the engine. I thought synthetics are best used after engine is well bedded in - say 5000 km +?? My 1000 km service cost 1923 baht. The labour cost is for 3 hours of labour, not only for replacing the shims, but the other things they do too. 300 baht per hour ain't that much. Do you want to work for 300 baht per hour? Didn't think so. I went to Pirelli the other day and I had to pay a service charge of 600 baht for a 20 minute job. If you want quality and western standards, you will pay for it. But I don't mind paying it here, as back home it will cost more than double. Pirelli! Tell us ur setup and please also some feedback about your tires! Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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