Australian Arrested And Charged With Sexually Abusing A 7-Year-Old Thai Boy

[DocN]

Good work!

Now I wish they would be as effective with not only foreigners, but with their own people...like let's say...in Krabi!

[vicdrip]

Couldn't agree more with you, if you cannot make constructive comments then don't make any. Saves the rest of us wasting time sorting out the good topic replies from the bad. If you don't like Thailand why do you stay here?

It does sound on the face of it that the Aussie police on discovery of paedofile evidence warned the Thai police about him and all they did was wait for him at the airport. Most of us stay here because we love it here despite the inept and corrupt policing.

[catmac]

Can't help notice that the comments for the Thai Rhino Horn Trader

are much more abrasive than for this news.

Maybe sexually abusing a seven-year old child is more acceptable

than rhino horn poaching.

Paedophiles are scums of the earth.

If you had seen the photos Ratcatcher posted of the horrific cruelty inflicted on the rhinos, maybe you wouldn't be so smug. As for this case, as so many have pointed out, the suspect has only been charged, not yet tried, let alone convicted.

Edited November 10, 2012 by catmac

[NomadJoe]

Nice work AFP.

---------- What about giving some cdedit to the Thai police for their part

You must be new to Thai Visa.

Thai police seem to spend a great deal of time apprehending people who "slipped through the fingers" of police in other countries and in assisting police from other jurisdictions , as in this case, but of course it would kill some people to acknowledge that.

The police have to wait until a crime is committed before they can make an arrest. I watched a documentary about Australian heroin mules who were thrown in Thai prison after Australian police tipped off the Thai police. You can't arrest people and keep them in prison simply on intent.

Untrue. Most western countries now have laws that allow police to arrest on intent alone on this kind of thing. The "act" is "crossing an international border with intent".

[weegee]

Thanks goes to the AFP !!!!!......Great work.

[blu]

Castration wold be a good idea.

[weegee]

will he be out on bail....if he pleads not guilty???????

[pmem]

What about giving some cdedit to the Thai police for their part

Indeed! Some people who pIost on these forums clearly have an uncontrollable hatred for Thai people and all things Thai. I really wish they would simply leave and take their bile and vitriol elsewhere ....

Credit for what?

The AFP (Australian Plastic Police)

knew about this rock spider a long time ago; and they new the instant he left the country (immigration checkpoint )and where he was headed.

Then why? Did they not alert the Thai Police immediately; and When the Thai police were finally notified they sat on there arse and waited for him to leave the country (immigration checkpoint);

Too bad about the poor innocent kid that was abused, or doesn't he rate a mention or thought by authorities or you bickering TV , members.

You keep up the good work sunshine; with your comments and I'll light a candle for this poor kid and his family.

If both these useless bloody law enforcement bodies weren't so inept, just maybe innocent lives would not be shattered.

Everybody has a right to post on this website without being accused of bigotry by some other snivelling Thai do-gooder member.

Edited November 10, 2012 by ozall

[technologybytes]

Yet again a news article that seems to only tell half a story.

This guy is being arrested as a result of his home being searched 11 days ago, that much it says in the article.

It says he was here in Thailand for 2 weeks.

Now are we really to believe that he arrived in Thailand 2 weeks ago, stated abusing a 7 year old, and somehow it was investigated in Australia and his house searched within 3-4 days of his arrival in Thailand. OF COURSE NOT... it cannot happen that fast, and why was he not arrested or detained in Thailand earlier?

BEFORE you start ranting and raving about this guy being the scum of the earth, take a moment to appreciate that the news story is so thin and unreliable in reporting this case that WE DO NOT KNOW half the story.

Now.. any moment now I'm going to be accused of defending a pedophile... well let me say this.. I DONT KNOW if this guy is a pedophile or not, and I suggest that neither do you. YES I will defend anyone accused of ANY crime all the time the case has not been proven and they are simply a SUSPECT.

[denishuahin]

The main thing i see in this case is that Australian police maybe could not prosecute him easily in Australia, PC brigade “ he’s not a bad man he’s sick” . So they waited until he came to Thailand or maybe returned to Thai, and got the Thai police to do their job for them. Good job whichever way it happened. Sad thing is did they wait until after the offence was committed to make sure of conviction?

Edited November 10, 2012 by metisdead
: Overly large font re-sized to normal.

[pmem]

Something doesn't sound right - he's just returning home now after 2 weeks in Thailand, yet, they seized material (presumably with evidence) in Australia two weeks ago, presumably before the alleged offence had taken place. Thy guy was stupid enough to leave evidence of his planned activities? Thanks for stitching yourself up

I agree, something doesn't sound right at all. They discovered 'material' at his home 2 weeks before he was arrested. The AFP are incredibly corrupt. But don't take my word for it. Look at what they did to Schapelle Corby. http://www.expendable.tv/ Just 2 weeks ago they extradited James Henry Kinch (a British citizen) to Australia. He had been illlegally detained for FOUR years in Klong Prem prison, Thailand. They extradited him just hours after the Expendable Team went in to interview him about AFP corruption. http://jameshenrykinch.com/

Nothing is as it seems when it comes to the AFP. They will also have blood on their hands when 2 of the Bali Nine are executed.

So true, the Australian governments, AFP, State police and Prisons are mirror of Thailand. What evidence do I have? - Myself, two brother and a cousin worked in police and prisons.

[jackspratt]

Everybody has a right to post on this website without being accused of bigotry by some other snivelling Thai do-gooder member.

I agree - bigots have a perfect right to post on TV.

And snivelling (sic) Thai do-gooder members have a right to call them on their reprehensible bigotry.

[simple1]

Something doesn't sound right - he's just returning home now after 2 weeks in Thailand, yet, they seized material (presumably with evidence) in Australia two weeks ago, presumably before the alleged offence had taken place. Thy guy was stupid enough to leave evidence of his planned activities? Thanks for stitching yourself up

Based on your post, I can't help wondering what kind of monitoring the AFP is doing on individuals. Was he individually targeted for some reason or was he part of a general monitoring effort? Can any of you Aussies comment on the state of the police state in, pardon the expression, down under?

First of all Australia is not a police state. The AFP has a specialist unit that monitors chat / web sites for content such as child pornography, grooming etc. The accused was alleged identified by the AFP (see today's Bangkok Post) as regularly accessing online child pornography sites. When traveling to Thailand the RTP were notified, the RTP monitored his activity throughout his stay in Thailand and was subsequently arrested. Other posts have referred to the Australian justice system, but I would assume that as offenses were allegedly committed in Thailand, he will first have to face the Thai Courts. All in all a not so subtle warning to Australian pedophiles intending to travel to Asia for their criminal activities.

[mok199]

things are getting better,slowly but surley and we all have a part to do...

[simple1]

I have nothing but admiration for Australian Police in their efforts for the protection of children. A 12 year old Thai girl living with her Thai mother, who was an alcoholic, was violently assaulted by her mother. The girl phoned my wife (she had locked herself in her bedroom) and we then called the local police. Six police were at the home in a matter of minutes, including a female officer & a senior police officer. They were excellent in their handling of the child , dealing with the mother and very professional follow up liaison/coordination with the local child protection services.

[pmem]

Something doesn't sound right - he's just returning home now after 2 weeks in Thailand, yet, they seized material (presumably with evidence) in Australia two weeks ago, presumably before the alleged offence had taken place. Thy guy was stupid enough to leave evidence of his planned activities? Thanks for stitching yourself up

Based on your post, I can't help wondering what kind of monitoring the AFP is doing on individuals. Was he individually targeted for some reason or was he part of a general monitoring effort? Can any of you Aussies comment on the state of the police state in, pardon the expression, down under?

First of all Australia is not a police state.

Where have you been living for the past decade? Australian states are one of, if not the most over policed (as in laws) in the western world.

[LuckyLew]

I wonder if he will get released on bail like the guy Krabi

who is alledged to have raped a girl?

[jojodontyouknow]

If I had these predilections (molesting young children) I would kill myself.

Why bother,the Thai prison system will do it for you.

I am sure you're right on that one

[simple1]

Something doesn't sound right - he's just returning home now after 2 weeks in Thailand, yet, they seized material (presumably with evidence) in Australia two weeks ago, presumably before the alleged offence had taken place. Thy guy was stupid enough to leave evidence of his planned activities? Thanks for stitching yourself up

Based on your post, I can't help wondering what kind of monitoring the AFP is doing on individuals. Was he individually targeted for some reason or was he part of a general monitoring effort? Can any of you Aussies comment on the state of the police state in, pardon the expression, down under?

First of all Australia is not a police state.

Where have you been living for the past decade? Australian states are one of, if not the most over policed (as in laws) in the western world.

I suggest you look up the definition of a "Police State"

Edited November 10, 2012 by simple1

[Nisa]

Be interesting to know how this all came about and how he was getting info to his computer back home and how police back home came to suspect such a thing and get a warrant. Maybe wife checked his email?

[chainarong]

There is more than just thai police in Thailand, actually there's reps from uk, Ca , usa, au and nz all housed at ol swampy and afew hang out in Chaing mai.Bit of usless info on a lovely Saturday morning

[chainarong]

Something doesn't sound right - he's just returning home now after 2 weeks in Thailand, yet, they seized material (presumably with evidence) in Australia two weeks ago, presumably before the alleged offence had taken place. Thy guy was stupid enough to leave evidence of his planned activities? Thanks for stitching yourself up

Based on your post, I can't help wondering what kind of monitoring the AFP is doing on individuals. Was he individually targeted for some reason or was he part of a general monitoring effort? Can any of you Aussies comment on the state of the police state in, pardon the expression, down under?

AFP have had a presence in Thai for donkey years along with other western countries, based at ol swampy , Thai police mostly get their info from these speciallists, then arrest, AFP are up in Chaing Mai too.

[Buchholz]

Since it's not been mentioned yet, for anyone interested, the arrested Australian is listed as IAN KNOK POTTERTION

(with the caveat that English names are often mangled in the Thai press)

Isara Post (Article in Thai) - Nov. 10, 2012

http://isarapost.net...hp?c=3&id=29253

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Edited November 10, 2012 by Buchholz

[sunshine51]

Great work AFP & BiB....

Now castrate the SOB...or is that considered a cruel & unusual

punishment these days?

[chrisinth]

I have nothing but admiration for Australian Police in their efforts for the protection of children. A 12 year old Thai girl living with her Thai mother, who was an alcoholic, was violently assaulted by her mother. The girl phoned my wife (she had locked herself in her bedroom) and we then called the local police. Six police were at the home in a matter of minutes, including a female officer & a senior police officer. They were excellent in their handling of the child , dealing with the mother and very professional follow up liaison/coordination with the local child protection services.

Be careful there simple1, that sounds like a professional approach by members of the Aussie police. Which they certainly can be!

Just waiting for the "Something doesn't sound right" crowd to try to discredit your story..................

Edit: corrected typo

Edited November 10, 2012 by chrisinth

[BookMan]

Nice work AFP.

---------- What about giving some cdedit to the Thai police for their part

You must be new to Thai Visa.

Thai police seem to spend a great deal of time apprehending people who "slipped through the fingers" of police in other countries and in assisting police from other jurisdictions , as in this case, but of course it would kill some people to acknowledge that.

Crikey, you guys need to relax a bit.

[MaxYakov]

Something doesn't sound right - he's just returning home now after 2 weeks in Thailand, yet, they seized material (presumably with evidence) in Australia two weeks ago, presumably before the alleged offence had taken place. Thy guy was stupid enough to leave evidence of his planned activities? Thanks for stitching yourself up

Based on your post, I can't help wondering what kind of monitoring the AFP is doing on individuals. Was he individually targeted for some reason or was he part of a general monitoring effort? Can any of you Aussies comment on the state of the police state in, pardon the expression, down under?

First of all Australia is not a police state.

Where have you been living for the past decade? Australian states are one of, if not the most over policed (as in laws) in the western world.

Yes, simple1 asserted that Australia was not a police state and then continued to describe activities [which you snipped] which, in my mind, seem to indicate to me some vague notion of a police state. So, a little Google research digs up a 2008 report, 'The Electronic Police State 2008 National Rankings' by a self-identified CryptoHippie (CH) which ranks Australia as #18 (China was #1, Thailand was #48 and, bring up the bottom was the Philippines at #52). CH noted in their report that:

"Firstly, we are not measuring government censorship of Internet tra!c or police abuses, as legitimate as these issues may be. And, we are not including evidence gathering by traditional, honest police work in any of the categories below. (That is, searches pursuant to honestly obtained warrants – issued by an independent judge, and only after the careful examination of evidence.)"

The report goes on to describe seventeen factors used: Border Issues, Financial Tracking, Gag Orders, Anti-crypto Laws, Constitutional Protection, Data Storage Ability, ISP Data Retention, Telephone Data Retention, Cell Phone Records, Medical Records, Enforcement Ability, Habeus Corpus, Police-Intel Barrier, Covert Hacking, Loose Warrants.

The CH Electronic Police State Report Link:

http://www.cla.asn.a...-a-police-state

Now, how could it be that Thailand is ranked at #48 (out of 52)? Another question is WTH are the CH people and what do they know from Shinola anyway? I'll let you folks continue my very rudimentary Web research from here (but be forewarned ... they may be 'Watching You').

Edited November 10, 2012 by MaxYakov

[connda]

3 - 2 - 1 - here come the "hang 'em high" brigade.

Firstly your ideas (or as your risibly think "solutions") have no base, merit or effect on the problem.

Secondly - look to yourselves and ask "why" you repeatedly feel the need to post on these matters.

Why do we (including I) repeatedly feel the need to post on matters of the sexual abuse of children? Because pedophilia is an unconscionable act of extreme selfishness that destroys the innocence of the child.

Perhaps you should look at yourself an ask why you're bothered by people who find pedophiles to be obscenely destructive human beings, and then comment about their feelings on this forum?

[Troll]

Nice work AFP and RTP. Let`s hope this pice of slime rotten in Hell-Hilton if found guilty.

[simple1]

@MaxYakov: The report you referenced is from Civil Liberties Australia and reviews the use of electronic monitoring and reporting tools used by governments and alledged abuse of around the world by law enforcement & intelligence organisations. A sophisticated example, that is known of, is “Echelon”; for detail go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON

With reference to this topic, it is in my opinion, perfectly acceptable for law enforcement agencies to utilise electronic web monitoring capabilities to identify unlawful access by individuals of material such as child pornography and things such as chat sites for targeting and grooming under age individuals for sex. For instance, these capabilities have been reported in the media when arresting and charging pedophiles rings operating at the global level for sharing content; often as a commercial endeavour. For those who are inferring that this is Police State intrusion, I say to you ‘think again”