Ex-Thai Prime Minister Abhisit ' To Face Murder Charge ': Officials

[Chupup]

Pure stupidity, sometime you should remain quiet and let people think you a FOOL than to speak and prove it, a lesson that should be learnt by this government

[hotandhumid]

ha ha ha

[Atoosa07]

Thai politics in desperation lets call Thaksin in as well for the murder of those muslims who died on a back of the truck in the south few years ago......

come there are far more important things that needs fixing in this country

[Basil B]

If this is the case, why didn't Taksin face murder charges for all the drug dealers shot by his orders.......ah we all know the answer to that

And the financing of "terrorists"

[ChrisY1]

Yes....the Polies are dopey......but unfortunately, the masses follow!!!

[BarryM]

Good to see the wheels of justice turning. They never got to the bottom of that one in Switzerland though, did they.

[Pui]

Wonder if the courts will make charges against Jatupon and the others as their red shirts killed Army personnel. Doubt it very much.

Think the outside world is laughing at Thailand again

How is that? Abhisit was the leader when some of the most oppressive censorship, brutal crackdowns and harshest sentences anywhere in the world were carried out under his leadership. Only fitting he is held responsible.

He may be considering using his British passport soon

You don't think Abhisit's hands where tied becuase Thaksins paid crony's where still active throughout his premiership? Where you around for Thaksin's war on drugs. Police where shooting people left right and centre. Not for being in riots.

Mind you Thaksin did give a lot of peasants a 1000 baht. So I guess he was elected.

At least Abhisit is educated. The current Thaksin sister can hardly communicate. The whole things a farce but I don't think Abhisit should be tried for murder. Where in the real world could that happen?

Edited December 6, 2012 by Pui

[Thaddeus]

Ahh, the stench of red reconciliation.

[waza]

The stench of Thaksin is all about this, the PTP show their democratic credentials as they drop all pretence of folowing the rule of law......

"The tripartite meeting has decided to charge former prime minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and former deputy Suthep Thaugsuban under article 288," said DSI chief Tarit Pengdith, referring to the murder provision under Thailand's criminal code........

Abhisit and Suthep will be summoned by letter to hear the charges and to be questioned on December 12, Tarit said, adding that authorities would not seek court permission to detain the men."

So much for Yinglucks recent statement..........

"I would like to emphasize that the Government fully adhere to the democratic system of government with the monarchy as Head of State. The Government believes in freedom of expression and is convinced that the Parliament is the place for the people’s representatives to settle differences in viewpoints and resolve political conflicts..........

Being a democracy nevertheless, is not only about exercising ones’ freedoms. The rule of law must also be observed and obeyed. Our society can co-exist only if there are rules and boundaries for the exercise of rights and freedoms. By exercising these rights and freedom, it must not impinge on the rights and freedoms of others. Indeed, it is our common duty to protect our democracy so that it is not threatened by those who prefer otherwise." Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra

Bespite Yinglucks claims of the PTP as a democratic party they are increasingly becoming the greatest threat to democracy in Thailand.

Edited December 6, 2012 by waza

[fareastguy]

The court found that the 43-year-old was caught in a volley of gunfire when he ran out of a central Bangkok apartment block to see what was happening after hearing soldiers open fire at a minibus that had strayed into an area under army control.

Then surely his death was one of "miss-adventure" by his own actions as apposed to one of murder by AV.

Wrong place, wrong time NO BRAIN !

[Rimmer]

Racist slur removed

[ramrod711]

"The tripartite meeting has decided to charge former prime minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and former deputy Suthep Thaugsuban under article 288," said DSI chief Tarit Pengdith, referring to the murder provision under Thailand's criminal code.

If they flee the country, the Thai police will never be able to find them......even if they know where they are. While they are away they might want to threaten to spend millions to arm terrorists, oops, already been done.

[waza]

"The tripartite meeting has decided to charge former prime minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and former deputy Suthep Thaugsuban under article 288," said DSI chief Tarit Pengdith, referring to the murder provision under Thailand's criminal code.

If they flee the country, the Thai police will never be able to find them......even if they know where they are. While they are away they might want to threaten to spend millions to arm terrorists, oops, already been done.

Only after they are found guilty but allowed bail so they can attend the FIFA world cup in Brazil. lol

[charmonman]

Wonder if the courts will make charges against Jatupon and the others as their red shirts killed Army personnel. Doubt it very much.

Think the outside world is laughing at Thailand again

How is that? Abhisit was the leader when some of the most oppressive censorship, brutal crackdowns and harshest sentences anywhere in the world were carried out under his leadership. Only fitting he is held responsible.

He may be considering using his British passport soon

Time Traveller, if you really think that then I don't think you know much about the world (or Thailand for that matter). Anywhere in the world? Do you have any idea what goes on in Burma, or China, or Syria, or any one of dozens of other countries any reasonably informed person could name off the top of their head? What a ridiculous statement!

[Tech65]

Despite Yinglucks claims of the PTP as a democratic party they are increasingly becoming the greatest threat to democracy in Thailand.

Totally true. Under all points of view.

[kevvy]

Wonder if the courts will make charges against Jatupon and the others as their red shirts killed Army personnel. Doubt it very much.

Think the outside world is laughing at Thailand again

aren't they always laughing at the law in this country

[TommoPhysicist]

Wonder if the courts will make charges against Jatupon and the others as their red shirts killed Army personnel. Doubt it very much.

Think the outside world is laughing at Thailand again

How is that? Abhisit was the leader when some of the most oppressive censorship, brutal crackdowns and harshest sentences anywhere in the world were carried out under his leadership. Only fitting he is held responsible.

He may be considering using his British passport soon

I sort of agree that government leaders should be made to take responsibility for the actions of armed troops they put on the street. Especially when those leaders took power by force. With power comes responsibility.

I'm fairly sure Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot et al didn't kill anyone themselves, does that make them any the less culpable?

Edited December 6, 2012 by TommoPhysicist

[15Peter20]

vicarious liability

[LindsayBKK]

Taxi driver refused to stop at military checkpoint and tried to run down soldiers

What were the soldiers supposed to do?

In any other country around the world soldiers would have done same.

Another attempt at payback for Yingluck censure motion

Abhisit is too smart for Pheu Thai / Red Mafia games.

Where are Red Shirt Leaders now after burning Bangkok and holding the country to ransom? free as a bird after Pheu Thai win the election.

Edited December 6, 2012 by LindsayBKK

[gabruce]

Wonder if the courts will make charges against Jatupon and the others as their red shirts killed Army personnel. Doubt it very much.

Think the outside world is laughing at Thailand again

How is that? Abhisit was the leader when some of the most oppressive censorship, brutal crackdowns and harshest sentences anywhere in the world were carried out under his leadership. Only fitting he is held responsible.

He may be considering using his British passport soon

I think that you don't get out much! I lived in BKK at the time and thought that Abhisit's flaw was not breaking the demonstration up earlier. That was NOT a brutal crackdown. Check the news and history for brutal. I would say that it is inevitable that there are casualties when both sides are armed (or even if only one side is armed). It was UNFORTUNATE and SAD that anyone died, both on the side of the demonstrators and the government. I must say though that I miss the sight and sound of people gathered around burning mounds of tires in the middle of intersections.

[AntMan1]

Despite Yinglucks claims of the PTP as a democratic party they are increasingly becoming the greatest threat to democracy in Thailand.

Totally true. Under all points of view.

id say the people who backed the coup several years ago are the greater threat, whether you like it or not she gets the most votes.

[LivinginKata]

More posts removed - off topic or quoting a post already removed.

[bramds]

Wait a sec... didn't Arisman just get thrown into jail for a year for defaming Abhisit by claiming that he was... a murderer?

Thai politicized "justice" at its worst!

Arisman made bail.

[Arkady]

Even a Thai court would not convict, if it can't be proved that Abhisit pulled the trigger himself or directly ordered the soldier to shoot. Clearly no orders giving to troops can be found supporting the theory that Abhisit forced them to fire recklessly at unarmed protestors.

If this case proceeds there will be demands to try Thaksin's brother-in-law, Somchai Wongsawat, for murdering Angkhana Radappanyawu who was killed by an explosive tear gas grenade fired by police at yellow shirt demonstrators in front of parliament in 2008 during Somchai's brief and undistinguished tenure of the PM's job. That is not to mention Thaksin's war on drugs.

It's time Thailand got some real accountability for corrupt and murderous politicians and a real justice system, not just those currently in power abusing their authority to force police, the DSI and the attorney general to pursue frivolous cases against their political rivals out of spite.

[grantbkk]

I saw the headline and guessed correctly that the "time to leave the country" and "it is all Thaksin's fault" would be dominating the thread. It is not time to panic yet. This charge is years from conclusion if it ever gets off the ground.

I actually hope that these killers have to answer for the murder of the nurse rendering medical aid at a temple during the state ordered attacks.

[Ianatlarge]

I fully approve of public officials being held accountable for their actions, up to and including murder. I would also put the military on trial, from the generals down. The military are the servants of the public, not their murders. The more that these people are held accountable, the greater their reluctance to kill people.

[Tech65]

I suppose that everyone has followed the evolution of the protests of the red shirts in Bangkok, and the exhausting attempts of mediation made by Abhisit.

I did, because I live very near Ratchaprasong and Lumpini...

But that protest, just like any communist protest , was looking for martirs. They knew that was about to happen. But they need to lock a city like Bangkok for a couple of months before to get the target, though.

And thus they have used it to win, and now they are trying to use it again to get rid of the worst antagonist. Whos is getting more powerful day after day the red shirts demostrate how good they are to govern this country.

(If my comment is bit too strong can be deleted. OK)

[khunken]

Despite all the slurs & innuendo about Abhisit, it is obvious now that the Thaksin-run government is afraid of him. Two witch-hunts in the space of 2 months is taking the country back to Thaksin's local rule when the same sort of silence-the-opposition strategy was used against journalists, protestors, business & political opponents.

Brilliant 'reconciliation' strategy which can only boost the various anti-government groups. The political scenario here is getting worse & the 'coup' cry will only get louder.

[how241]

...and the dance continues.

+1

[smedly]

"adding that authorities would not seek court permission to detain the men"

That is the scariest government statement I have ever read in Thailand, they are in fact intent on circumventing the courts and the rule of law