Are You Paid During Breaks?

[HeijoshinCool]

Quick poll, please.

Thanks for participating. Comments most welcome.

[aidenai]

12 months employment contract. 10 paid business days. 15 paid sick days. Paid semester breaks, two weeks in October and 4 weeks in April.

[HeijoshinCool]

12 months employment contract. 10 paid business days. 15 paid sick days. Paid semester breaks, two weeks in October and 4 weeks in April.

Thanks very much for taking the moment to reply.

I'm being offered the same for next year as this. i.e., no pay for the three months off.

I'd like to know if this is typical.

[otherstuff1957]

When I worked for a Language School, I had a 12 month contract with 2 weeks of paid vacation. However, I was one of their 'head teachers' and the 80% or so of the teachers who were not head teachers were not paid for October or April.

Now I work directly for a school and have 2 - 3 weeks off in October, 3 weeks off in April and one or one & 1/2 weeks off at new years, all paid. Plus 10 days of business/sick leave per year.

Edited December 17, 2012 by otherstuff1957

[puchooay]

Last year I was off from 19th March to 5th May. Got paid for the lot. Most recently I was off from 10th October to 1st November. Again paid in full.

I get sick leave too. Not sure how many days. I also get a holiday allowance of about 15 days a year.

[wayned]

Depends on what your contract says!

[chowny77]

When I first started working here in 2005 at a school I shall not name. We had a great contract, 12 months full paid/housing and insurance incl, if you flew into Thailand after 3 months they paid you half of the ticket price for you to fly back home. After a full 12 months of service with no problems you were paid a bonus without the housing of 3,000baht. Plus 10 days sick plus 10 days personal. Then our director got greedy and wanted to hack and slice at what the native speakers were paid. Well as you can guess we who objected were not best pleased and replaced with others who would accept this. All I can say is now most school's seem to be getting more tighter with their money when in fact they should be offering more because of ASEAN coming up and Thailands standings when it comes to English ability is falling behind the others. No tea money will save their faces in 2015 when they will look stupid compared!

[HeijoshinCool]

Thanks. Good replies.

Any more?

I need ammo when I negotiate tomorrow!

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Edited December 17, 2012 by HeijoshinCool

[Johnniey]

12 months employment contract. 10 paid business days. 15 paid sick days. Paid semester breaks, two weeks in October and 4 weeks in April.

Thanks very much for taking the moment to reply.

I'm being offered the same for next year as this. i.e., no pay for the three months off.

I'd like to know if this is typical.

This is not typical. I get 4 month paid holiday plus 2 months bonu. Tell them where to stick it.

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[Scott]

If your school gets you a Work Permit, then it should be good for a year. That would generally mean that you are employed for a year. (Not that it matters, but that's how I would approach it, maybe).

[HeijoshinCool]

12 months employment contract. 10 paid business days. 15 paid sick days. Paid semester breaks, two weeks in October and 4 weeks in April.

Thanks very much for taking the moment to reply.

I'm being offered the same for next year as this. i.e., no pay for the three months off.

I'd like to know if this is typical.

This is not typical. I get 4 month paid holiday plus 2 months bonu. Tell them where to stick it.

When do you have time to work?

[sirchai]

12 months, plus work permit and visa paid. Free lunch on weekdays. Three to four weeks off in October, four to six weeks in April/May.

Bonus is my free house on campus.

12 months employment contract. 10 paid business days. 15 paid sick days. Paid semester breaks, two weeks in October and 4 weeks in April.

Thanks very much for taking the moment to reply.

I'm being offered the same for next year as this. i.e., no pay for the three months off.

I'd like to know if this is typical.

This is not typical. It doesn't mean that they'll pay you fully next year. Spoken words don't mean a lot here.

Once you've got a signed contract, then it's fine.

We get 12 months paid, plus free work permit, visa and lunch on campus. Free housing.

15 days sick leave, some private "business days", not sure how many.

Three to four weeks off in October, four to six weeks in April/May. Plus the countless holidays.

Edited December 17, 2012 by sirchai

[SlyAnimal]

Our school pays us for 11 months, with full salary in March / May / October, even though these are only 1-2 weeks of regular classes (Although sometimes they do schedule a week of special classes, as they like us to work at least 2 full weeks for each of those months).

In April we can earn our overtime rate (400 THB an hour), if we teach summer school (Optional to teach in summer school). Although the amount of hours available aren't huge (about 1 week of teaching I think, I went travelling instead last summer so don't know).

From the sounds, you're getting a bit of a raw deal, however you should factor in your monthly salary as well, and how that compares to other schools. e.g. I only get paid for 11 months, but my annual salary is still similar/higher than what most teachers in the area get paid, because the monthly amount is quite reasonable. As a result, for that 12th month, I have no obligation to teach or sign in every day as some schools make their teachers do. Consider that when you're negotiating with them, as if you're ok for month, and have 3 full months off, that'd be a pretty nice work/life balance (As if they pay you for those 3 months, you can likely expect that you'll need to do some form of work in order to earn it).

[cbrer]

12 months employment contract. 10 paid business days. 15 paid sick days. Paid semester breaks, two weeks in October and 4 weeks in April.

Thanks very much for taking the moment to reply.

I'm being offered the same for next year as this. i.e., no pay for the three months off.

I'd like to know if this is typical.

Not if it's any way legit it isn't.

I would not accept that.

[cbrer]

Thanks. Good replies.

Any more?

I need ammo when I negotiate tomorrow!

I doubt schools/companies like that negotiate.

There'll be some desperado/krusty/gap-yearer etc. with a white face willing to do it, they know that. You will know that.

[Scott]

The school where I work is reasonably good with regard pay and benefits. All contracts are 12 months and all holidays are paid. We've had a number of teachers who have left for much better paying jobs, only to return anywhere from 1-3 years later because it wasn't quite as good as it seemed. The pay was good, but no paid holidays, no housing (or housing allowance), no sick leave, no insurance and for quite a few no work permit or visa assistance.

The decision has to be made by you based on your personal circumstances. If the school fits for you, you like it and like the students then it's fine. There are a lot of factors that go into job satisfaction and the terms of the contract are just one.

[HeijoshinCool]

Thanks for all the good input.

I think I have a pretty good deal in almost every category. It's the three months without pay that I'm not sure about.

Mon and Wed, 3 hours in the morning. Tues and Thurs, 3 hours in the morning, 1 hour after lunch. Fri through Sun off. (14 hours per week actual time in class).

No signing in. No parents. No activities. Free reign in the classroom. No interference whatsoever. Great respect and courtesy from other staff.

Holidays (what, 13?) are paid. 5 days sick. No vacation.

20k per month. So that's 180k per school year, but with 3 months down time. Kids are great. I like the schedule a lot. The free time means a lot to me, especially that I can travel extensively.

So, is 180k per "year" about right, considering the above?

[SweatySock]

Thanks for all the good input.

I think I have a pretty good deal in almost every category. It's the three months without pay that I'm not sure about.

Mon and Wed, 3 hours in the morning. Tues and Thurs, 3 hours in the morning, 1 hour after lunch. Fri through Sun off. (14 hours per week mactual time in class).

No signing in. No parents. No activities. Free reign in the classroom. No interference whatsoever. Great respect and courtesy from other staff.

Holidays (what, 13?) are paid. 5 days sick. No vacation.

20k per month. So that's 180k per school year, but with 3 months down time. Kids are great. I like the schedule a lot. The free time means a lot to me, especially that I can travel extensively.

So, is 180k per "year" about right, considering the above?

I'm on almost exactly the same deal. Not perfect with the 3 months of no pay but the freedom in the classroom plus the proximity of the school, 3 km from home, make it acceptable.

[chowny77]

Thanks for all the good input.

I think I have a pretty good deal in almost every category. It's the three months without pay that I'm not sure about.

Mon and Wed, 3 hours in the morning. Tues and Thurs, 3 hours in the morning, 1 hour after lunch. Fri through Sun off. (14 hours per week actual time in class).

No signing in. No parents. No activities. Free reign in the classroom. No interference whatsoever. Great respect and courtesy from other staff.

Holidays (what, 13?) are paid. 5 days sick. No vacation.

20k per month. So that's 180k per school year, but with 3 months down time. Kids are great. I like the schedule a lot. The free time means a lot to me, especially that I can travel extensively.

So, is 180k per "year" about right, considering the above?

For the hours you are working which are low by the way. You are getting paid 350 baht per hour your teach, now that is not too bad. Some schools try to do it for only 250-300 baht an hour. For the 3 months down time during breaks try to get some privates going to fill in when the school is not paying you. If you cant be bothered than thats your fault but doing 14 hours a week is a walk in the park. I do that in 2 days privately.

[sirchai]

Thanks for all the good input.

I think I have a pretty good deal in almost every category. It's the three months without pay that I'm not sure about.

Mon and Wed, 3 hours in the morning. Tues and Thurs, 3 hours in the morning, 1 hour after lunch. Fri through Sun off. (14 hours per week mactual time in class).

No signing in. No parents. No activities. Free reign in the classroom. No interference whatsoever. Great respect and courtesy from other staff.

Holidays (what, 13?) are paid. 5 days sick. No vacation.

20k per month. So that's 180k per school year, but with 3 months down time. Kids are great. I like the schedule a lot. The free time means a lot to me, especially that I can travel extensively.

So, is 180k per "year" about right, considering the above?

I'm on almost exactly the same deal. Not perfect with the 3 months of no pay but the freedom in the classroom plus the proximity of the school, 3 km from home, make it acceptable.

I'm making 27,500/ month. There's my wife, our 14 year old son and I.

Just enough to pay for my rent, Diesel oil, electricity, etc..no way to save one baht/ month.

We foreigners will never have "Rachaghan status", no pension, can't even put my wife on my social security. Thai teachers' social security, married to foreigners fully cover foreigner's as well.

If you don't have enough own money, how can you travel a lot, making 20 k?

Edited December 20, 2012 by sirchai

[sensei]

There are 10 foreign teachers in the school where I am teaching at.

Teachers get paid for 12 months and we also get a ThB 2,000 increase every year.

Holidays are paid and sick leave is offered and abused by some teachers.

The school also arrange other paid work opportunities on weekends and after school.

[smileplur]

12 Month Contract | 6 Sick Days | 20 Days Annual Leave | Required Summer School (4 weeks) | Paid Work Permit | 4 Official Days (90 Day Reporting, Driving License Issues, Etc.)

About 16 classroom hours per week | Optional after school classes at 500 baht per class

49,000 Baht / Month

[otherstuff1957]

I know that this response is a bit off-topic, but I have to say that I am amazed that anyone would even consider accepting a 9 month contract earning 20k per month.

I arrived in Thailand a bit over 10 years ago and within a few days of my arrival was offered a 12 month contract at 28k per month. After passing probation I was given 30k plus a couple of thousand more for an evening class. This was about average for a casual Teffler.

A couple of years after my arrival I started hearing about 11 month contracts. A few years later, 10 month contracts started showing up. Now, we have people seriously considering 9 month contracts and a monthly salary that most Thai teachers would turn their noses up at!

[HeijoshinCool]

All interesting.

Don't stop now!

[mike123ca]

Government high school 30 k a month

12 month contract 1 month sign in and take off for the day, 1 month paid no signing in and all regular holidays and 7 days personal.

My Thai wife owns her house, so no rent to pay (but do spend money to improve the house).

The school did get me a 2nd part-time job at a private tutorial school.

It would be nicer if the wages were higher.

[talk2sam]

12 Months contract @ 300k per/yr accomodation wt truevision, three meals per/day, Visa and work permit ...and most especially wonderful students..doing great here....

[thaicbr]

1.12 month paid (if we do summer course, if no summer course 11 month)

2.work permit, visa etc paid.

3.Apartment paid by school.

4.Return flight home each year.

5.1,000b increase each year.

6.444,000b per year

7. 20-22 periods per week

8. adequate students

9. lunch at school (well they call it food)

Edited December 24, 2012 by thaicbr

[HeijoshinCool]

12 Months contract @ 300k per/yr accomodation wt truevision, three meals per/day, Visa and work permit ...and most especially wonderful students..doing great here....

You eat all three meals at the school?

[HeijoshinCool]

1.12 month paid (if we do summer course, if no summer course 11 month)

2.work permit, visa etc paid.

3.Apartment paid by school.

4.Return flight home each year.

5.1,000b increase each year.

6.444,000b per year

7. 20-22 periods per week

8. adequate students

9. lunch at school (well they call it food)

Government or private school?

[thaicbr]

1.12 month paid (if we do summer course, if no summer course 11 month)

2.work permit, visa etc paid.

3.Apartment paid by school.

4.Return flight home each year.

5.1,000b increase each year.

6.444,000b per year

7. 20-22 periods per week

8. adequate students

9. lunch at school (well they call it food)

Government or private school?

Private school, But normal program.

(as an aside. I think earning less than 30,000b as a Native English teacher (or near native) is soooo wrong. especially with a 9 month contract. Even when i was working for an agency 6 years ago i earned 25+)