webfact Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Ban on roadside bars for New Year break may be deferred The Nation BANGKOK: -- A newly-proposed restriction on the sale of alcoholic drinks on Bangkok footpaths cannot be imposed in time for the New Year due to delays in the bureaucratic process. However, the authorities have decided to enforce existing regulations on public order during the four-day holiday break. Dr Samarn Footrakool, a senior official who was behind the proposal, accused people "whose businesses will be affected" of trying to delay or distort information about the restriction campaign. "So far, the efforts to delay the restriction have worked because a meeting to address the issue and secure an order from the Public Health Ministry to officially legitimise the ban has not been scheduled," he added without elaborating. He said some sources had told him that the new law could be delayed for a year. Samarn added that while the new law, which is based on an order from the Prime Minister's Office, has not taken effect, there was a need to enforce the existing laws. The Highway Act bans sale and distribution of goods on and along the sides of public paths. Offenders risk maximum imprisonment of three months, a fine of up to Bt5,000, or both. The City Cleanliness Act also prohibits the sale of goods on roads and footpaths. Those who fail to abide by the law may be fined up to Bt2,000. The Land Transport Act has a similar ban and the offender risks a maximum fine of Bt500. -- The Nation 2012-12-22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surangw Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 bless the bureaucratic process. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhizBang Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 I never expected it to be enforced anyway. So... business as usual then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaltsc Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 They were probably too drunk to make it to the vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 this is one big money maker for the police, with the money flowing up to a certain deputy PM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bagwan Posted December 22, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2012 So the PM's office issues an edict. I assume that Yingluck was fully aware of this if not actually signing it off. The edict is ignored - or at least circumvented. So exactly who is running the country? It seems that there is only one answer and that comprises just one word. Nobody. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post harrry Posted December 22, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2012 Wish a few people who block the footpaths would get some of those fines...reperatedly. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 So the PM's office issues an edict. I assume that Yingluck was fully aware of this if not actually signing it off. The edict is ignored - or at least circumvented. So exactly who is running the country? It seems that there is only one answer and that comprises just one word. Nobody. Actually it's two words.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 This should be interesting. As both the Acts mentioned in the OP, The Highway Act and The City Cleanliness Act will affect all roadside vendors and not just the ones selling alchol. If this is enforced, then office staff will be hunting for new venues for their breakfasts and midday meals............. Good luck with that................ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardandtubs Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 I'm sure the laws against roadside vendors will be rigorously enforced from now on and we'll all be able to walk home without breathing barbecue smoke, having hot oil from a wok spat at us or waiting behind a Thai woman as she chooses her new shoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 So the PM's office issues an edict. I assume that Yingluck was fully aware of this if not actually signing it off. The edict is ignored - or at least circumvented. So exactly who is running the country? It seems that there is only one answer and that comprises just one word. Nobody. 2 words The lunatics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryp Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Corruption in Thailand is NUMBER 1......end of discussion Why should anyone care about the legal business's that pay for licences etc, when you can just stand outside one with a bacteria breeding ground ice box etc? I would never invest even 1 baht in this idiotic Country, your rights are zero 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocN Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Surprise, surprise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01322521959 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 I never expected it to be enforced anyway. So... business as usual then. Enforced? We have no understanding of that word. Some strange western word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 I wasn't paying attention, so may have missed some here. Does the new regulation (or an old one being dusted off for final use) mean the nightly fun along lower Sukhumvit, which mostly starts past midnight, will be no more? Or will the enterprising Thai see their costs of doing business increased just a wee bit? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrysteve Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 (edited) Lets hope the SON of Red Bull isn't out on the loose all coked up, liquored up & driving another Roadster. By the way, whats the latest on than weasel? In any event I wouldn't want to be on any sidewalk bar on Sunkhumvit or any main drag in Bangkok. Edited December 22, 2012 by jerrysteve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a99az Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Wast of ink/space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Words issued here by government officials have no meaning, or more precisely, no relationship with reality... When the alcohol proposal was first announced, I thought to myself, Ya Right...When Pigs Fly.... And low and behold, not more than a couple weeks passes and they're already eating their own prior pronouncements. But looking at the bright side, now at least the authorities and their flat-foot minions will have plenty of time and opportunity to enforce the law mentioned in the OP against selling goods along the sides of public paths... That must be what those BMA inspectors are doing out there every day along Sukhumvit, "fining" all the street vendors, probably on a regular schedule like once a week or once a month. Hahahahahahaha!!!!! Sorry, I just woke up.... I must have been dreaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirchai Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 (edited) The only good news seems to be that Monday seems to be a holiday. Nobody at our school could confirm that yet. Is it true? "The Highway Act bans sale and distribution of goods on and along the sides of public paths. Offenders risk maximum imprisonment of three months, a fine of up to Bt5,000, or both". "The City Cleanliness Act also prohibits the sale of goods on roads and footpaths. Those who fail to abide by the law may be fined up to Bt2,000. The Land Transport Act has a similar ban and the offender risks a maximum fine of Bt500.". " The Yingluck Conscription Act also prohibits the sale of voices and choices.Those who fail to abide the law may be fined up to Bt 10, or they'll get a free papaya-salad.." Edited December 22, 2012 by sirchai 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razer Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Money talks ... BS walks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TackyToo Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 They were probably too drunk to make it to the vote. Ear infection spreading in parliament??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Why do they even need a new law. The ones on the books cover it all anyway. Anyone think any of these stalls have licenses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post franzs Posted December 22, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2012 I'm sure the laws against roadside vendors will be rigorously enforced from now on and we'll all be able to walk home without breathing barbecue smoke, having hot oil from a wok spat at us or waiting behind a Thai woman as she chooses her new shoes. I am since 91 in Bangkok, without vendors, this city would not be what it is, people can't stand this anymore should start to think about going back home 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 I'm sure the laws against roadside vendors will be rigorously enforced from now on and we'll all be able to walk home without breathing barbecue smoke, having hot oil from a wok spat at us or waiting behind a Thai woman as she chooses her new shoes. I am since 91 in Bangkok, without vendors, this city would not be what it is, people can't stand this anymore should start to think about going back home I'm not one of the "then go home" guys, but anyone that moves into an existing situation then complains about it has only one person to blame... I moved to China in 1999, and then they banned all street vendors to encourage investment in.....shopping malls.... Franzs is right. It was not the same place- and not in a good way. It became sterile and boring. (Well, not sterile, exactly- it was still pretty dirty.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrain Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Quite understandable that it couldn't be imposed before the new year, because if i look at the people without helmets or driving against traffic flow etc., I understand the bureaucratic process to impose any law in this country takes up to 2 decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halion Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 The local police in the respective areas are the ones who would stand with most to loose as the kickbacks from the booze stations located on the footpath are significant. Inmates run the institution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chua Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Finally, a Crackdown on Crackdowns! p.s. This part is hilarious: "The City Cleanliness Act also prohibits the sale of goods on roads and footpaths. Those who fail to abide by the law may be fined up to Bt2,000. The Land Transport Act has a similar ban and the offender risks a maximum fine of Bt500." So when are they going to start arresting and fining the thousands of people who do this every day in Bangkok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisrazz Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 The bureaucratic process was created by experts, in order to make everything so complex that inefficiency enables the mandarins to build empires based on masses of paperwork and compliance. Who are the engineers of such an honourable monument to Thai society? Bureaucrats.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfill Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Nice to see the drink driving problem being addressed so enthusiastically. At least the first annual cull of innocents can now go ahead unhindered and the wise old sages can continue to tut-tut when the casualty figures are released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finnomick1 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 ...maybe they'll defer New Year too to coincide when the law is actually passed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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