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ANALYSIS
Yingluck clears one hurdle, many ahead

Somroutai Sapsomboon,
Anuphan Chantana
The Nation

Anti-graft body sees no attempt to file false assets statement

BANGKOK: -- A political landmine has been cleared for Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra when the National Anti-Corruption Commission decided she had not filed a false asset statement. However, many more landmines lie ahead of her on the political path.


The NACC unilaterally voted to endorse a finding by an investigative panel that Yingluck did not intend to conceal or falsify her assets in her financial statement submitted to the NACC.

Earlier, the NACC detected what seemed to be discrepancy in her financial statement when Yingluck declared that she had lent Bt30 million to the Ad Index Co of her husband, Anusorn Amorchat, in 2006 and 2007. Initially, it seemed to be a discrepancy because the account of the firm regarding its loans did not conform with Yingluck's financial statement.

However, NACC investigators checked the transactions in detail and found that the prime minister did lend the money to the firm and she had not behaved in a way that could lead to doubt that she had intended to conceal her assets. The investigators reported the finding to the NACC, which endorsed it. The NACC retained the information to compare with Yingluck's assets statement to be submitted to the graft watchdog when she leaves the office.

The NACC unanimously resolved to clear the prime minister from the suspicion that she had falsified her assets statement, NACC member Klanarong Chanthik said yesterday. The anti-graft commissioners unanimously resolved to endorse the authenticity of the PM's financial statements filed with the NACC and would keep the record of the statements for further use in the future, according to Klanarong.

The decision of the NACC eased Pheu Thai's earlier concern about Yingluck's status regarding the assets statement.

However, Yingluck is still facing several hot issues that could affect her office. One of the issues is the Bt2-trillion borrowing bill. On Wednesday, charter writers of the 2007 Constitution led by Manit Suksomchit filed a complaint with the NACC, accusing Yingluck and her Cabinet of violating Article 157 of the criminal law for abuse of authority in connection with its Bt2-trillion loan bill.

In their petition filed with the NACC, the charter drafters said the Cabinet had abused its authority by violating fiscal and budgetary discipline as stipulated in Article 169 and Articles 166-170. They asked the NACC to send the issue to the Criminal Court's Criminal Division for Political Office Holders to make a ruling that could lead to Yingluck's removal from office.

Another issue that could affect Yingluck's office is the issuing of a passport to fugitive former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, Yingluck's brother.

By the middle of this month, the 30-day period for Yingluck to provide an explanation to the Office of the Ombudsman regarding the passport will run out. The Ombudsmen initially suspected that the passport reissuance contradicted the regulations of the Foreign Ministry.

If Yingluck sticks to her stand not to order the Foreign Ministry to revoke the passport, the issue may escalate and cost her the premiership. In the meantime, the on-going constitutional amendments and the plan to enact amnesty or reconciliation bills, which are facing stiff resistance from the government's opponents, may shake Yingluck's seat. But if she knows how to make a tactical retreat, her government may survive and continue to be under her leadership.

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-- The Nation 2013-04-05

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By the middle of this month, the 30-day period for Yingluck to provide an explanation to the Office of the Ombudsman regarding the passport will run out.

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Actually, the deadline for Yingluck to respond for her and her cousin's illegal actions already expired on March 13th.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/621927-thaksins-passport-old-controversy-could-spark-new-round-of-conflict/?view=findpost&p=6150396

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Could it be your favorite newspaper reported it wrong, or could Yingluck or the department handling the passport got an extension to answer the query as to why it was not cancelled. Have to wait and see.

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By the middle of this month, the 30-day period for Yingluck to provide an explanation to the Office of the Ombudsman regarding the passport will run out.

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Actually, the deadline for Yingluck to respond for her and her cousin's illegal actions already expired on March 13th.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/621927-thaksins-passport-old-controversy-could-spark-new-round-of-conflict/?view=findpost&p=6150396

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Could it be your favorite newspaper reported it wrong, or could Yingluck or the department handling the passport got an extension to answer the query as to why it was not cancelled. Have to wait and see.

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What is my favorite newspaper? blink.png

It was widely reported in February that she was given a 30 days notice (expiring March 13) to respond.

It was also widely reported when the Yingluck's adminstration's action were determined to be illegal over six months ago.

It was also reported that her cousin Foreign Minister said he had replied to the decision earlier, which was then reported subsequently to be a lie.

What has not been reported anywhere is that Yingluck has been granted an extension to explain about something she's known to be illegal for a long time.

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And what has not been reported is how seriously the Ombudsman is really taking the complaint from former PAD Leader,Somsak Kosaisuk.

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Actually, the deadline for Yingluck to respond for her and her cousin's illegal actions already expired on March 13th.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/621927-thaksins-passport-old-controversy-could-spark-new-round-of-conflict/?view=findpost&p=6150396

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Could it be your favorite newspaper reported it wrong, or could Yingluck or the department handling the passport got an extension to answer the query as to why it was not cancelled. Have to wait and see.
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What is my favorite newspaper? blink.png

It was widely reported in February that she was given a 30 days notice (expiring March 13) to respond.

It was also widely reported when the Yingluck's adminstration's action were determined to be illegal over six months ago.

It was also reported that her cousin Foreign Minister said he had replied to the decision earlier, which was then reported subsequently to be a lie.

What has not been reported anywhere is that Yingluck has been granted an extension to explain about something she's known to be illegal for a long time.

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And what has not been reported is how seriously the Ombudsman is really taking the complaint
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As evidenced by the continual return to raising the issue by the Ombudsman Office over the past year and a half, they are taking it serious.

Probably because it is such a flagrant and openly illegal move by her team, which violates the Foreign Ministry's own rules.

That and the Yingluck's government's lies and delays would tend to aggravate rather than placate their taking up the issue.

The required action on her part is so miniscule and could be accomplished before noon today, yet she blows it off and runs away must be understandably frustrating to them.

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And what has not been reported is how seriously the Ombudsman is really taking the complaint from former PAD Leader,Somsak Kosaisuk.

And now that at least in the eyes of some we successfully casted some possible doubt in the Thaksin passport case because it was filed by a former PAD leader may I respectfully ask what the colour of the shirt was which he was wearing when filing the compaint?

At least the Foreign Minister is taking this seriously (whistling.gif) as even on the 26th of March we had

"“The Foreign Ministry just reaffirmed that we did the right thing because a passport is like an identification card. Just like we don’t seize ID cards from people who are being jailed,” Mr Surapong said."

http://www.asianews.co/fm-defends-return-of-thaksin-passport/

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on the 26th of March we had

"“The Foreign Ministry just reaffirmed that we did the right thing because a passport is like an identification card. Just like we don’t seize ID cards from people who are being jailed,” Mr Surapong said."

http://www.asianews.co/fm-defends-return-of-thaksin-passport/

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Astounding lack of logic in someone who supposedly holds a doctorate degree.

He must thank nepotism for his position every day he goes to the office.

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is there any law that restrict the issue of passports under certain circumstances?

Not if your name is Thaksin S. and your brother-in-law the Foreign Minister secretly issues a passport on the 26th of October 2011 from flooded offices at a moment the country is distracted by the flooding well done. Even lying about it more than a month later when the secret came out is no (real) offence. Coming up with nonsense excuses is no offence.ermm.gif

On the 2nd of December 2011

""So I will use my authority to do whatever is not illegal under the regulations of the ministry to give the passport to ex-premier Thaksin," Foreign Minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul told reporters."

The Ombudsman asked the FM to recall the illegally issued passport as no passports are issued to convicted felons. The precise law is hidden somewhere in Thai law in Thai. Be my guest to find it and have it translated into English for the rest of us wai.gif

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is there any law that restrict the issue of passports under certain circumstances?

Cousin Surapong broke regulations that require denying a new passport to a fugitive.

Suggest catching up with the thread from September

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/584526-all-sides-try-to-outdo-each-other-over-thaksin/?view=findpost&p=5666755

Well the man in charge wrote on behalf of the Prime Minister, did he not.

Foreign Minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul on Tuesday defended his decision to give back an ordinary Thai passport to fugitive ex-premier Thaksin Shinawatra.

Mr Surapong said he had written to the Office of the Ombudsman after it wrote to Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra on Feb 12 suggesting she order the ministry to review its decision to issue the passport to her brother.

Well there it is, they were answered, So the ball is back in their court as to why they want Thaksin's Passport back.

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is there any law that restrict the issue of passports under certain circumstances?

Cousin Surapong broke regulations that require denying a new passport to a fugitive.

Suggest catching up with the thread from September

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/584526-all-sides-try-to-outdo-each-other-over-thaksin/?view=findpost&p=5666755

Well the man in charge wrote on behalf of the Prime Minister, did he not.

Foreign Minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul on Tuesday defended his decision to give back an ordinary Thai passport to fugitive ex-premier Thaksin Shinawatra.

Mr Surapong said he had written to the Office of the Ombudsman after it wrote to Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra on Feb 12 suggesting she order the ministry to review its decision to issue the passport to her brother.

Well there it is, they were answered, So the ball is back in their court as to why they want Thaksin's Passport back.

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Actually, Surapong has never responded to the Ombudsman Office's directive back when he said he did.

That's one of his many lies.

The Ombudsman Office wants the Foreign Ministry to revoke the illegally issued passport.

That's all the "why" they need.

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is there any law that restrict the issue of passports under certain circumstances?

Cousin Surapong broke regulations that require denying a new passport to a fugitive.

Suggest catching up with the thread from September

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/584526-all-sides-try-to-outdo-each-other-over-thaksin/?view=findpost&p=5666755

there it says also The previous government cancelled Thaksin's passport without justification, he said, as an act of political vendetta without any precedents.

but i guess that cannot be legal defense enough when there are clear laws that prohibit the issue of new passports.

they should have nullified reversed the cancellation of Thaksins old passport.

but then it is just giving a passport to someone, not a big issue- someone here will find excuses why it is okay to short cut the law and regulation when you make 30 year contracts for the bts.

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is there any law that restrict the issue of passports under certain circumstances?

Cousin Surapong broke regulations that require denying a new passport to a fugitive.

Suggest catching up with the thread from September

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/584526-all-sides-try-to-outdo-each-other-over-thaksin/?view=findpost&p=5666755

Well the man in charge wrote on behalf of the Prime Minister, did he not.

Foreign Minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul on Tuesday defended his decision to give back an ordinary Thai passport to fugitive ex-premier Thaksin Shinawatra.

Mr Surapong said he had written to the Office of the Ombudsman after it wrote to Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra on Feb 12 suggesting she order the ministry to review its decision to issue the passport to her brother.

Well there it is, they were answered, So the ball is back in their court as to why they want Thaksin's Passport back.

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Actually, Surapong has never responded to the Ombudsman Office's directive back when he said he did.

That's one of his many lies.

The Ombudsman Office wants the Foreign Ministry to revoke the illegally issued passport.

That's all the "why" they need.

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You have proof, he did not respond back to the Ombudsman Office directive.

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is there any law that restrict the issue of passports under certain circumstances?

Cousin Surapong broke regulations that require denying a new passport to a fugitive.

Suggest catching up with the thread from September

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/584526-all-sides-try-to-outdo-each-other-over-thaksin/?view=findpost&p=5666755

there it says also The previous government cancelled Thaksin's passport without justification, he said, as an act of political vendetta without any precedents.

but i guess that cannot be legal defense enough when there are clear laws that prohibit the issue of new passports.

Correct.

Cousin Surapong's statement above is immaterial.

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Actually, Surapong has never responded to the Ombudsman Office's directive back when he said he did.

That's one of his many lies.

The Ombudsman Office wants the Foreign Ministry to revoke the illegally issued passport.

That's all the "why" they need.

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You have proof, he did not respond back to the Ombudsman Office directive.

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http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/619381-ombudsman-hands-foreign-ministry-ultimatum-over-thaksins-passport/?view=findpost&p=6115994

and

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/619381-ombudsman-hands-foreign-ministry-ultimatum-over-thaksins-passport/?view=findpost&p=6116017

and

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/621927-thaksins-passport-old-controversy-could-spark-new-round-of-conflict/?view=findpost&p=6150396

and

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/619381-ombudsman-hands-foreign-ministry-ultimatum-over-thaksins-passport/?view=findpost&p=6118611

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is there any law that restrict the issue of passports under certain circumstances?

Cousin Surapong broke regulations that require denying a new passport to a fugitive.

Suggest catching up with the thread from September

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/584526-all-sides-try-to-outdo-each-other-over-thaksin/?view=findpost&p=5666755

Well the man in charge wrote on behalf of the Prime Minister, did he not.

Foreign Minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul on Tuesday defended his decision to give back an ordinary Thai passport to fugitive ex-premier Thaksin Shinawatra.

Mr Surapong said he had written to the Office of the Ombudsman after it wrote to Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra on Feb 12 suggesting she order the ministry to review its decision to issue the passport to her brother.

Well there it is, they were answered, So the ball is back in their court as to why they want Thaksin's Passport back.

Perhaps the letter got lost in the post, or maybe he just forgot to post it - an easy "honest" mistake to make given all the pressures of being a FM. whistling.gif

Reality is the PM and FM have been aware of this illegal act and have chosen to try and ignore it. Regardless of all the attempts by some posters to divert from this, that's how it is. Another demonstration that some people are above the law here.

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is there any law that restrict the issue of passports under certain circumstances?

Cousin Surapong broke regulations that require denying a new passport to a fugitive.

Suggest catching up with the thread from September

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/584526-all-sides-try-to-outdo-each-other-over-thaksin/?view=findpost&p=5666755

Well the man in charge wrote on behalf of the Prime Minister, did he not.

Foreign Minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul on Tuesday defended his decision to give back an ordinary Thai passport to fugitive ex-premier Thaksin Shinawatra.

Mr Surapong said he had written to the Office of the Ombudsman after it wrote to Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra on Feb 12 suggesting she order the ministry to review its decision to issue the passport to her brother.

Well there it is, they were answered, So the ball is back in their court as to why they want Thaksin's Passport back.

Perhaps the letter got lost in the post, or maybe he just forgot to post it - an easy "honest" mistake to make given all the pressures of being a FM. :whistling:

Reality is the PM and FM have been aware of this illegal act and have chosen to try and ignore it. Regardless of all the attempts by some posters to divert from this, that's how it is. Another demonstration that some people are above the law here.

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And that nepotism is protective and lucrative.

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on the 26th of March we had"“The Foreign Ministry just reaffirmed that we did the right thing because a passport is like an identification card. Just like we don’t seize ID cards from people who are being jailed,” Mr Surapong said."http://www.asianews.co/fm-defends-return-of-thaksin-passport/.Astounding lack of logic in someone who supposedly holds a doctorate degree.He must thank nepotism for his position every day he goes to the office..

If it's a doctorate degree from a Thai university it's not worth anything. Just a day to put on fancy clothes and prance about. I could support that by showing a 'learn English for Thais' book, written by a Thai with a masters degree in English. Shame Thais are frightened of criticism and don't ask for a proof read.

Much better to publish the fact that your degree is worthless.

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Anyway, back to topic.

Wouldn't the person with the title of PM go down in history as the most successful PM Thailand had had, if she could tackle Thai corruption.

Assuming they could trust each other she could sit down with K Abhisit and start by ensuring that existing laws were applied uniformly.

Moving on from there, corruption could be tackled.

Not easy, but would show she was being driven by the right philosophy. Her current meandering under remote control, with her "ask me any question - sorry, I'm busy", just confirms her ineptitude.

Dreams, dreams. There's no motivation to make a better future for Thailand. Too busy looking to 'rectify' the 'rectifications' of the past.

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