poorfarang Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I need a proxy server for some of my work. Ideally within the USA. I have been using a service for about $3 a month that is good but it is used by typing in the address on one of their webpages. This does not work for all of my needs because if I use instant messaging or other programs they do not go through the proxy. For this reason I need a secure proxy that I can use by plugging in settings on my system and surfing normally. There is no free option available and thats fine, but does anyone know of a service that I can use like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rio666uk Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 i have a feeling that thaivisa doesnt wish to have threads about these proxies on the forum for legal reasons. however - im sure a quick google will show you the way - there are alot of sites that list anonomisers / anonymous proxies for different world locations... ...you aint seen me - right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totster Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Just wondering why you would need a anonymous proxy.. what are you doing ? totster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefoxx Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 rio, what poorfarang is asking for is a *paid* proxy service. What you're talking about, and what Thaivisa doesn't like (and the Thai government blocks), is using so-called "free" proxies. Now, the word "free" is a bit of a misnomer. They're not "free", they're "unsecured", usually through ignorance. By accessing them, you're actually committing a crime, because it is unauthorized access. Pay proxies on the other hand are exactly that, services which offer anonymity for a fee. Now, most people really have no legitimate reason for wanting anonymity, so they'll always question *why* someone would want anonymity... since usually most of us would use it for not-so-good reasons. Of course, there are legit users, and these are the ones most likely to pay for the service, rather than covertly using someone else's unsecured proxy. But sorry, poorfarang, I have no information on pay proxies. I used to use the service of a Thai guy, who offered VPN-type connections, which pretty much proxies everything without need for per-program setup, but that was a long time ago, and it was a one-time deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 in the earlier days of the internet there were open free legal proxys, mostly from universitys. Now there are some from anti-cencsorship groups and some from paid services with some features removed (like no forms)... I have no idea why anonymous proxies should be illegal, are they in Thailand? rio, what poorfarang is asking for is a *paid* proxy service. What you're talking about, and what Thaivisa doesn't like (and the Thai government blocks), is using so-called "free" proxies.Now, the word "free" is a bit of a misnomer. They're not "free", they're "unsecured", usually through ignorance. By accessing them, you're actually committing a crime, because it is unauthorized access. Pay proxies on the other hand are exactly that, services which offer anonymity for a fee. Now, most people really have no legitimate reason for wanting anonymity, so they'll always question *why* someone would want anonymity... since usually most of us would use it for not-so-good reasons. Of course, there are legit users, and these are the ones most likely to pay for the service, rather than covertly using someone else's unsecured proxy. But sorry, poorfarang, I have no information on pay proxies. I used to use the service of a Thai guy, who offered VPN-type connections, which pretty much proxies everything without need for per-program setup, but that was a long time ago, and it was a one-time deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totster Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 in the earlier days of the internet there were open free legal proxys, mostly from universitys.Now there are some from anti-cencsorship groups and some from paid services with some features removed (like no forms)... I have no idea why anonymous proxies should be illegal, are they in Thailand? rio, what poorfarang is asking for is a *paid* proxy service. What you're talking about, and what Thaivisa doesn't like (and the Thai government blocks), is using so-called "free" proxies. Now, the word "free" is a bit of a misnomer. They're not "free", they're "unsecured", usually through ignorance. By accessing them, you're actually committing a crime, because it is unauthorized access. Pay proxies on the other hand are exactly that, services which offer anonymity for a fee. Now, most people really have no legitimate reason for wanting anonymity, so they'll always question *why* someone would want anonymity... since usually most of us would use it for not-so-good reasons. Of course, there are legit users, and these are the ones most likely to pay for the service, rather than covertly using someone else's unsecured proxy. But sorry, poorfarang, I have no information on pay proxies. I used to use the service of a Thai guy, who offered VPN-type connections, which pretty much proxies everything without need for per-program setup, but that was a long time ago, and it was a one-time deal. Illegal.. maybe not.. but definately a shady area.. if Proxies are used to gain acces to sites not allowed in Thailand, what does that make them ? totster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marquess Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 in the earlier days of the internet there were open free legal proxys, mostly from universitys. Now there are some from anti-cencsorship groups and some from paid services with some features removed (like no forms)... I have no idea why anonymous proxies should be illegal, are they in Thailand? rio, what poorfarang is asking for is a *paid* proxy service. What you're talking about, and what Thaivisa doesn't like (and the Thai government blocks), is using so-called "free" proxies. Now, the word "free" is a bit of a misnomer. They're not "free", they're "unsecured", usually through ignorance. By accessing them, you're actually committing a crime, because it is unauthorized access. Pay proxies on the other hand are exactly that, services which offer anonymity for a fee. Now, most people really have no legitimate reason for wanting anonymity, so they'll always question *why* someone would want anonymity... since usually most of us would use it for not-so-good reasons. Of course, there are legit users, and these are the ones most likely to pay for the service, rather than covertly using someone else's unsecured proxy. But sorry, poorfarang, I have no information on pay proxies. I used to use the service of a Thai guy, who offered VPN-type connections, which pretty much proxies everything without need for per-program setup, but that was a long time ago, and it was a one-time deal. Illegal.. maybe not.. but definately a shady area.. if Proxies are used to gain acces to sites not allowed in Thailand, what does that make them ? totster Now we are talking about sites that are available in most countries? The question you should be asking is why are they not available here? Oh I forgot, adults can't be responsible for themselves, and need the gov to be responsible for them. Oh my mother will be pleased, that the gov have saved my soul. Oh I just wish they could lead me to the gates of Heaven and tell God that they helped save me from myself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totster Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 in the earlier days of the internet there were open free legal proxys, mostly from universitys. Now there are some from anti-cencsorship groups and some from paid services with some features removed (like no forms)... I have no idea why anonymous proxies should be illegal, are they in Thailand? rio, what poorfarang is asking for is a *paid* proxy service. What you're talking about, and what Thaivisa doesn't like (and the Thai government blocks), is using so-called "free" proxies. Now, the word "free" is a bit of a misnomer. They're not "free", they're "unsecured", usually through ignorance. By accessing them, you're actually committing a crime, because it is unauthorized access. Pay proxies on the other hand are exactly that, services which offer anonymity for a fee. Now, most people really have no legitimate reason for wanting anonymity, so they'll always question *why* someone would want anonymity... since usually most of us would use it for not-so-good reasons. Of course, there are legit users, and these are the ones most likely to pay for the service, rather than covertly using someone else's unsecured proxy. But sorry, poorfarang, I have no information on pay proxies. I used to use the service of a Thai guy, who offered VPN-type connections, which pretty much proxies everything without need for per-program setup, but that was a long time ago, and it was a one-time deal. Illegal.. maybe not.. but definately a shady area.. if Proxies are used to gain acces to sites not allowed in Thailand, what does that make them ? totster Now we are talking about sites that are available in most countries? The question you should be asking is why are they not available here? Oh I forgot, adults can't be responsible for themselves, and need the gov to be responsible for them. Oh my mother will be pleased, that the gov have saved my soul. Oh I just wish they could lead me to the gates of Heaven and tell God that they helped save me from myself! marquess.. Although i agree with what you are saying.. the fact doesn't change that some sites are classed as illegal in Thailand, therefore, using a proxy is deemed as a grey area, if not illegal! totster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 no they are used for something different for aeh, hmm, give me a minute..... sure if I think long enough a find a good reason to use them for something legal...... in the earlier days of the internet there were open free legal proxys, mostly from universitys. Now there are some from anti-cencsorship groups and some from paid services with some features removed (like no forms)... I have no idea why anonymous proxies should be illegal, are they in Thailand? rio, what poorfarang is asking for is a *paid* proxy service. What you're talking about, and what Thaivisa doesn't like (and the Thai government blocks), is using so-called "free" proxies. Now, the word "free" is a bit of a misnomer. They're not "free", they're "unsecured", usually through ignorance. By accessing them, you're actually committing a crime, because it is unauthorized access. Pay proxies on the other hand are exactly that, services which offer anonymity for a fee. Now, most people really have no legitimate reason for wanting anonymity, so they'll always question *why* someone would want anonymity... since usually most of us would use it for not-so-good reasons. Of course, there are legit users, and these are the ones most likely to pay for the service, rather than covertly using someone else's unsecured proxy. But sorry, poorfarang, I have no information on pay proxies. I used to use the service of a Thai guy, who offered VPN-type connections, which pretty much proxies everything without need for per-program setup, but that was a long time ago, and it was a one-time deal. Illegal.. maybe not.. but definately a shady area.. if Proxies are used to gain acces to sites not allowed in Thailand, what does that make them ? totster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdf1 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 So are you saying it is illegal for me to find proxy for Lime Wire, because Thailand is blocking it now, so I can not download music ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totster Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 So are you saying it is illegal for me to find proxy for Lime Wire, because Thailand is blocking itnow, so I can not download music ? I'm no authority.. but technically. i 'spose yes totster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorfarang Posted March 22, 2006 Author Share Posted March 22, 2006 I dont want a proxy for anything that is illeagal. But I want to be able to conduct my business with certain companies and have all traffic going through usa servers. Also, I use my credit card almost every day online and my card either gets declined or red flagged for being used in thailand. THis will avoid many problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Search using Google, easily find many proxies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeWill Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Have you tried this: http://www.jmarshall.com/tools/cgiproxy/ It works for me. You may also try: http://www.proxomitron.info/45/help/Contents.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorfarang Posted March 22, 2006 Author Share Posted March 22, 2006 Why must people always shout out "SEARCH GOOGLE, SEARCH GOOGLE" Obviously I took the time to post this here so I could get some reviews and see what people think of different service. Im not moron, I know search engines exsist and how to correctly use them. The problem with the free proxies is they are not secure, meaning I cannot use them to log into certain websites becasue they dont support certain functions. Thanks for the help though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I would speak with my creditcardcompany first.... I use both visa and amex all the time from thailand and never had any problems, as long as you don't want to have something shipped to thailand (but the proxy does not help on the shipping adress). I dont want a proxy for anything that is illeagal. But I want to be able to conduct my business with certain companies and have all traffic going through usa servers.Also, I use my credit card almost every day online and my card either gets declined or red flagged for being used in thailand. THis will avoid many problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clokwise Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I need a proxy server for some of my work. Ideally within the USA. I have been using a service for about $3 a month that is good but it is used by typing in the address on one of their webpages. This does not work for all of my needs because if I use instant messaging or other programs they do not go through the proxy.For this reason I need a secure proxy that I can use by plugging in settings on my system and surfing normally. There is no free option available and thats fine, but does anyone know of a service that I can use like this? There IS a free solution... the last time I indirectly mentioned this particular piece of software here the thread was deleted, but I'm not certain is was because of what I wrote or what someone else wrote in the same thread. Anyhow, here goes... head over to http://www.iopus.com/ipig/ . This software will securely proxy all instant messages, emails and all LEGAL (by Thaivisa's definition, or otherwise) websites. You will have to test it yourself to see if it also proxies other websites that fall into some other category which we dare not discuss here. Setup is dead easy, and there's no proxy settings to tweak, it just works. ipig is particularly useful when you are at free Wi–Fi hotspots -- all your data will be securely encypted. My company has installed the free server version on a server in the US and I can attest that it operates an order of magnitude faster that way, however, if you are careful to run the free ipig client only when you need to, you'll probably be satisfied with the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefoxx Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Basically most of the supposedly "free" proxies out there on the various lists are not intended to be used by the general public. Some clueless admin probably installed a proxy on his server and forgot to limit the ip range. The proxy itself is usually intended to only be used internally, and not by anyone outside. Using the resources of this proxy is, in effect, unauthorized access. A hyperbole would be that you forget to lock your front door and complete strangers walk in and eat your food. I'm not saying that I don't use them, but I'm simply making a point, and explaining why their use is not exactly condoned by the authorities. Just to clarify the issue of why using them isn't exactly the best thing to do. Again, a VPN system would probably be the best route. It's secure, it's simple, and it's standard. Only problem is finding a provider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaigreg Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 http://www.anonymizer.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 (edited) So are you saying it is illegal for me to find proxy for Lime Wire, because Thailand is blocking itnow, so I can not download music ? I am no computer expert but I do not use a proxy and used LimeWire version 4.10.5 this morning from Thailand. My ISP is 'True'. What ISP are you using? I do not rate LimeWire that highly, though cannot complain since it is free. Can anyone recommend a better alternative? Edit: Just scrolled down the forum and saw the Limewire thread. Can someone please pass me my glasses. Edited March 23, 2006 by Chopper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjo o tjim Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 One of the great uses of secure proxies is being able to establish a secure connection for all your traffic. For myself, I want to set one up so that I don't have all my wireless traffic going unencrypted over the airwaves. It's scary what all you can see! The best way I have found is to have a co-located server that you have shell access to and can set up a manual proxy that you connect through. Unfortunately, it's expensive and slow. You can improve the speed issues if you host it in Thailand, but that generally drives up the cost. I'm actually surprised that there aren't more services here for this type of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a269652 Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 http://www.anonymizer.com/ that site was blocked younks ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astral Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 Anonymous Surfing hides your IP address so online snoops are unable to track the sites you visit and build profiles on your Internet activities. By redirecting your Web traffic through our secure servers, your online identity is protected whether you are at home, on the road or on a wireless network. These servers are armed with 128-bit Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) technology, similar to your bank - so you can rest easy knowing that you and your family are covered. Key Features Safe online shopping, banking and tax filing Automatic alert of fraudulent sites Starts automatically when you turn on your PC Easy to use with the click of a button Secures the data you send over a wireless network Zone Labs who offer the ZoneAlarm firewall are offering a the service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melus Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 (edited) I need a proxy server for some of my work. Ideally within the USA. I have been using a service for about $3 a month that is good but it is used by typing in the address on one of their webpages. This does not work for all of my needs because if I use instant messaging or other programs they do not go through the proxy.For this reason I need a secure proxy that I can use by plugging in settings on my system and surfing normally. There is no free option available and thats fine, but does anyone know of a service that I can use like this? Not free, but this software works, routes through US proxies, and works with instant messaging. http://www.tenebril.com/consumer/ghostsurf/ You can download the pdf manual here. Edited April 22, 2006 by melus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marquess Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Just install tor & privoxy and you can bypass all blocked sites.An fock all this stupid censors. )))) Too late! Already curtailed, by our omnipotent masters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clokwise Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 I hate to have to say it, but I told you so.... This indicates a couple things. The people in charge of blocking are probably not idiots - they are at least moderately tech savvy to even want to block the TOR site. Considering how they have recently started blocking the use of proxies, it means they are also very determined to do their job. The TOR site must have been blocked recently, as I've accessed it as recently as last month. One of the most convenient workarounds in Thailand is the TOR/privoxy, however the network is not blocked, just the TOR website. TOR/privoxy works great, you'll just need to find a different site to download it from. BTW, I just asked a colleague in China to check the TOR site. It's not blocked. I'm not surprised. China gets a bad rap for its "great firewall", deservedly, but they do not block people using proxies and they don't try too hard to block info so long as you have half a brain you can always find what you are looking for. From my first-hand experience in both countries, I'd say Thailand is swiftly rising up the charts with its heavy-handed, undefined, and ill-advised (IMHO) policy of net censorship. It is surprising how the Thai public is letting this ridiculous censorship go on, unchecked. Or perhaps it's not surprising at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallalai Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 (edited) The guys in charge of blocking sites are just a bunch of idiots. I can see everyday things more obscenes in the streets of Thailand than looking some porn or downloading music. Don't be hypocrits please. Edited April 24, 2006 by Wallalai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giulio Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 The guys in charge of blocking sites are just a bunch of idiots. I can see everyday things more obscenes in the streets of Thailand than looking some porn or downloading music.Don't be hypocrits please. yes i say allready,the people that decide what site must to block or not is better go to sell noodle in the road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clokwise Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 The guys in charge of blocking sites are just a bunch of idiots. I can see everyday things more obscenes in the streets of Thailand than looking some porn or downloading music.Don't be hypocrits please. TIT.In case anyone hasn't noticed, Empornium (MAJOR porn bittorrent site) was blocked recently. Speaking of hypocrites - here's my crackpot theory on why this is happening: The people behind the net censorship are NOT right-wing puritanical religious nutjobs. Quite the opposite. The real people ordering the blocking are in fact a secret coalition of gogo-bar and massage parlour owners. They want to make it impossible for us to get our rocks off online and instead force us to go to their venues for relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallalai Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Lol, I hadn't thought about this explaination. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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