george Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 13 Thais charged for cheating Marina Bay Sands casino SINGAPORE: -- Another six Thai men were charged on Monday with cheating the Marina Bay Sands casino of nearly $1.2 million.On Saturday, eight alleged accomplices, comprising four men and four women, were charged. Seven were Thai nationals while one was a Laotian man.The 14 of them, aged between 23 and 50 years old, are said to have colluded to win cash chips worth $1.2 million while playing baccarat at the casino on May 7 from 2.50am to 6am. They apparently devised a fraudulent scheme in which they knew the sequence of the cards in advance.All 14 are remanded for further investigations. The eight foreigners charged earlier will return to court on Friday while the case against the latest six in the dock will be mentioned again next Monday.Full story: http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-news/singapore/story/6-more-thais-charged-cheating-mbs-casino-baccarat-scam-20130513Source: Straits Times 2013-05-13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stoneyboy Posted May 13, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted May 13, 2013 It's ok for casinos to know the outcome but not the players,good luck to them I say. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrain Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Another six Thai men were charged on Monday with cheating the Marina Bay Sands casino of nearly $1.2 million. On Saturday, eight alleged accomplices, comprising four men and four women, were charged. Seven were Thai nationals while one was a Laotian man. All 14 are remanded for further investigations. The eight foreigners charged earlier will return to court on Friday while the case against the latest six in the dock will be mentioned again next Monday. Where at once 8 foreigners come from ? Oh I know already, from the saving face part of the story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bigbamboo Posted May 13, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted May 13, 2013 Haha!........... Ocean's 13! Or would that be Big C's 13 here? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobobirdiebuddy Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 They may feel the lash of the cane. Not a very hi-so ending to their holiday. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JetsetBkk Posted May 13, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted May 13, 2013 Another six Thai men were charged on Monday with cheating the Marina Bay Sands casino of nearly $1.2 million. On Saturday, eight alleged accomplices, comprising four men and four women, were charged. Seven were Thai nationals while one was a Laotian man. All 14 are remanded for further investigations. The eight foreigners charged earlier will return to court on Friday while the case against the latest six in the dock will be mentioned again next Monday. Where at once 8 foreigners come from ? Oh I know already, from the saving face part of the story. They are 8 foreigners because this is a Singaporean website story. Duh! 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candypants Posted May 13, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted May 13, 2013 Another six Thai men were charged on Monday with cheating the Marina Bay Sands casino of nearly $1.2 million. On Saturday, eight alleged accomplices, comprising four men and four women, were charged. Seven were Thai nationals while one was a Laotian man. All 14 are remanded for further investigations. The eight foreigners charged earlier will return to court on Friday while the case against the latest six in the dock will be mentioned again next Monday. Where at once 8 foreigners come from ? Oh I know already, from the saving face part of the story. you are aware that this happened in singapore and your anti-thai rhetoric is misplaced, right? 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradavarius37 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 It's ok for casinos to know the outcome but not the players,good luck to them I say. The outcome is always the same, the house always wins, in the end. Anyone who doesn't know this is a fool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaanUSA Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Ha, cool. I don't know anything about that specific game (just Burt), but surely one of the 14 must have been a dealer? I'm not buying the "they knew the order of the cards" story. How could you order the cards without the pit boss knowing anything or the cameras seeing it? 1.3 Mill, wow. They got greedy. Should have stopped earlier, although I'm sure the casino would still have figured it out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradavarius37 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Another six Thai men were charged on Monday with cheating the Marina Bay Sands casino of nearly $1.2 million. On Saturday, eight alleged accomplices, comprising four men and four women, were charged. Seven were Thai nationals while one was a Laotian man. All 14 are remanded for further investigations. The eight foreigners charged earlier will return to court on Friday while the case against the latest six in the dock will be mentioned again next Monday. Where at once 8 foreigners come from ? Oh I know already, from the saving face part of the story. You think about it a little more spanky...don't strain yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrain Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Another six Thai men were charged on Monday with cheating the Marina Bay Sands casino of nearly $1.2 million. On Saturday, eight alleged accomplices, comprising four men and four women, were charged. Seven were Thai nationals while one was a Laotian man. All 14 are remanded for further investigations. The eight foreigners charged earlier will return to court on Friday while the case against the latest six in the dock will be mentioned again next Monday. Where at once 8 foreigners come from ? Oh I know already, from the saving face part of the story. you are aware that this happened in singapore and your anti-thai rhetoric is misplaced, right? You're aware that this is the Thailand news forum, opposed to the world news forum, right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satcommlee Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 How did they get into the casino in the first place, I know the casino in question and you have to be Singaporean or permanent resident! I know cos they turned me away :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Boater Posted May 13, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted May 13, 2013 How did they get into the casino in the first place, I know the casino in question and you have to be Singaporean or permanent resident! I know cos they turned me away :-( any foreigner can enter Marina Sands Casino 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boater Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 (edited) Ha, cool. I don't know anything about that specific game (just Burt), but surely one of the 14 must have been a dealer? I'm not buying the "they knew the order of the cards" story. How could you order the cards without the pit boss knowing anything or the cameras seeing it? 1.3 Mill, wow. They got greedy. Should have stopped earlier, although I'm sure the casino would still have figured it out. there was another similar story in the UK last week, where they refused to pay out a guy 7 million, it turned out he could read the cards as on the back they had small prints not seen to the naked eye which had details of the card maybe part of the same scam? , but then the question of how the cards got into the place?,.... they are not reviling much Gambler won £7.8m by 'reading' the back of cards: How tiny flaw in deck design could have given poker star the upper hand Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2323122/Phil-Ivey-Gambler-won-7-8m-reading-cards.html#ixzz2TC4gc5hr Edited May 13, 2013 by Boater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satcommlee Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 How did they get into the casino in the first place, I know the casino in question and you have to be Singaporean or permanent resident! I know cos they turned me away :-( any foreigner can enter Marina Sands Casino That's interesting, I was turned away and there was clearly a sign up... but it may had been something to do with the big conference/expo I was attending there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaanUSA Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 maybe part of the same scam? , but then the question of how the cards got into the place?,.... they are not reviling much Sadly, they never will. I would assume one of the people arrested was a dealer and possibly another inside person or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boater Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 They apparently devised a fraudulent scheme in which they knew the sequence of the cards in advance. unless they actually tampered with the cards, in theory they have done nothing wrong !, well apart from beat the casino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaanUSA Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 How did they get into the casino in the first place, I know the casino in question and you have to be Singaporean or permanent resident! I know cos they turned me away :-( any foreigner can enter Marina Sands Casino That's interesting, I was turned away and there was clearly a sign up... but it may had been something to do with the big conference/expo I was attending there! https://www.marinabaysands.com/Singapore-Casino/Casino-Entry-Levy/FAQs/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satcommlee Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 How did they get into the casino in the first place, I know the casino in question and you have to be Singaporean or permanent resident! I know cos they turned me away :-( any foreigner can enter Marina Sands Casino That's interesting, I was turned away and there was clearly a sign up... but it may had been something to do with the big conference/expo I was attending there! https://www.marinabaysands.com/Singapore-Casino/Casino-Entry-Levy/FAQs/ Is there more than one casino? I'd like to think it was because I looked too young but I was wearing a suit and see no reason why I should have been refused. But there were literally thousands of us attending this expo all wandering around with our badges.. it may be a case of they didn't want the low spenders in there, which could be justified as I certainly wasn't going to blow much more than 100 SGD and wanted to visit more out of intrigue than determination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maanoi Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Ha, cool. I don't know anything about that specific game (just Burt), but surely one of the 14 must have been a dealer? I'm not buying the "they knew the order of the cards" story. How could you order the cards without the pit boss knowing anything or the cameras seeing it? 1.3 Mill, wow. They got greedy. Should have stopped earlier, although I'm sure the casino would still have figured it out. there was another similar story in the UK last week, where they refused to pay out a guy 7 million, it turned out he could read the cards as on the back they had small prints not seen to the naked eye which had details of the card maybe part of the same scam? , but then the question of how the cards got into the place?,.... they are not reviling much Gambler won £7.8m by 'reading' the back of cards: How tiny flaw in deck design could have given poker star the upper hand Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2323122/Phil-Ivey-Gambler-won-7-8m-reading-cards.html#ixzz2TC4gc5hr I dont think its related. By the way the flawed cards were visible to the naked eye. He didnt use any device to look at the cards. Good on him i say. If a casino is dumb enough to play flawed decks then the players have every right to use that to their advantage while they can. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryMilton Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Another six Thai men were charged on Monday with cheating the Marina Bay Sands casino of nearly $1.2 million. On Saturday, eight alleged accomplices, comprising four men and four women, were charged. Seven were Thai nationals while one was a Laotian man. All 14 are remanded for further investigations. The eight foreigners charged earlier will return to court on Friday while the case against the latest six in the dock will be mentioned again next Monday. Where at once 8 foreigners come from ? Oh I know already, from the saving face part of the story. Well, they are foreigners, how do you expect them to be described? What's face-saving got to do with anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryMilton Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Another six Thai men were charged on Monday with cheating the Marina Bay Sands casino of nearly $1.2 million. On Saturday, eight alleged accomplices, comprising four men and four women, were charged. Seven were Thai nationals while one was a Laotian man. All 14 are remanded for further investigations. The eight foreigners charged earlier will return to court on Friday while the case against the latest six in the dock will be mentioned again next Monday. Where at once 8 foreigners come from ? Oh I know already, from the saving face part of the story. you are aware that this happened in singapore and your anti-thai rhetoric is misplaced, right? You're aware that this is the Thailand news forum, opposed to the world news forum, right ? The incident involved Thais, you are aware of this, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryMilton Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 How did they get into the casino in the first place, I know the casino in question and you have to be Singaporean or permanent resident! I know cos they turned me away :-( Maybe they just told you that because they didn't want you in there. It happens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbandung Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 How did they get into the casino in the first place, I know the casino in question and you have to be Singaporean or permanent resident! I know cos they turned me away :-( You were probably trying to enter through the wrong entrance. There are separate entrances for foreigners and Singaporean residents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Payboy Posted May 13, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted May 13, 2013 About time Thais had their own legal casinos to scam each other. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canman Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 (edited) How did they get into the casino in the first place, I know the casino in question and you have to be Singaporean or permanent resident! I know cos they turned me away :-( Singaporeans and PR are actually the only people with specific casino rules imposed on them by the government such has having to pay a Casino entry levy of $100. There are no restrictions on other nationalities. If you were refused entry it may have been because you did not have a PP with you? Edited May 13, 2013 by canman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 . It's expensive there for the opportunity to lose money in a casino, but then again I read recently that one out of every six Singaporeans is a millionaire in USD terms. "The daily entry levy is $100, and is valid for 24 consecutive hours starting from the time of first entry into the casino. The daily entry levy will expire if entry has not taken place by the end of the 30th day after the date of purchase. During the permitted 24 hours you may enter and exit the casino freely. If you purchased the annual, $2,000 levy, the annual entry levy is valid for 12 months starting from either (a) the time of first entry into the casino, or ( 90 days after the date of payment, whichever is earlier." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noitom Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Hard to believe that 13 Thais and a Lao could "mastermind" and pull off such a caper at the baccarat tables. It is surprising that we are even reading about this and that the casino operator didn't just break their legs in the back room prior to cashing out. More information about this would be very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sing_Sling Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 How did they get into the casino in the first place, I know the casino in question and you have to be Singaporean or permanent resident! I know cos they turned me away :-( Nope, no restrictions on foreigners . It's expensive there for the opportunity to lose money in a casino, but then again I read recently that one out of every six Singaporeans is a millionaire in USD terms. "The daily entry levy is $100, and is valid for 24 consecutive hours starting from the time of first entry into the casino. The daily entry levy will expire if entry has not taken place by the end of the 30th day after the date of purchase. During the permitted 24 hours you may enter and exit the casino freely. If you purchased the annual, $2,000 levy, the annual entry levy is valid for 12 months starting from either (a) the time of first entry into the casino, or ( 90 days after the date of payment, whichever is earlier." Well yes, but not really . . . the flats are stunningly overpriced and you can't just sell a lot of the HDBs, there are rules and regs to this. Having said that, the Gahmen has always enticed the wealthy from less secure countries - read Indon, Flipland, Thailand, Myanmar . . . to park their dosh there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonarax Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 How did they get into the casino in the first place, I know the casino in question and you have to be Singaporean or permanent resident! I know cos they turned me away :-( Next time don't wear ya pluggers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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