Farang Prices In Thailand

[laislica]

I for one just flat-out don't understand what the hispanic reference was about even if it was sincere, so if there was any sarcasm was involved it was certainly lost on me.

Don't worry, it's par for the course with Kilgore. He has a propensity to mix irrelevant analogies with out-in-left-field sarcasm, which usually results in an incoherent rant that is very similar to sounds of a certain pitch that only dogs can hear. I'd be more worried if you did understand his point.

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Thanks I'll keep that in mind - read: I'll make sure to pay close attention to his further posts to watch out for any signs of growing comprehension, and if they appear I'll get myself checked out. . .

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[Neeranam]

spidermike007, on 20 May 2013 - 11:52, said:

From what I have heard, if you show a Thai drivers license, or proof that you live in Thailand, they are obligated to offer you the Thai price. It does work sometimes, unless you are dealing with a exceptionally stubborn, or ignorant individual. Have you ever run into one of those?

Mike Macarelli

Chaiyaphum, Thailand

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Simple - speak the local language and you get in for the local price.

Fair enough in any country.

But not fair to people who work here legally & pay taxes but may not speak the local language...shouldnt they get the local price as well ?....after all they are paying into the system

Just simply say no. What would a Thai person do in the US? He would say no. Fair is fair, and two tier pricing is pure BS. Racist nonsense. Just say no to the horsecrap.

If you made no effort to say something simple like "hello, three please", then maybe it is fair to get the tourist price.

Someone mentioned not getting a shave in the barbers - this has happened to me before near a hotel. I was shocked but maybe if I had a barbers shop in my own country and a heap of foreigners came in regularly and started doing silly things that farang do here like giving tips and couldn't talk to me I might do the same and charge them more.

[FDog]

You like to talk when getting your hair cut?

I prefer the barber to shut up so I can have a nap. Ahh bliss.

[Neeranam]

You like to talk when getting your hair cut?

I prefer the barber to shut up so I can have a nap. Ahh bliss.

Sometimes I do but I always tell him at the start how much I want off etc.

[Kilgore Trout]

I for one just flat-out don't understand what the hispanic reference was about even if it was sincere, so if there was any sarcasm was involved it was certainly lost on me.

 

Don't worry, it's par for the course with Kilgore.  He has a propensity to mix irrelevant analogies with out-in-left-field sarcasm, which usually results in an incoherent rant that is very similar to sounds of a certain pitch that only dogs can hear.  I'd be more worried if you did understand his point.

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Thanks I'll keep that in mind - read: I'll make sure to pay close attention to his further posts to watch out for any signs of growing comprehension, and if they appear I'll get myself checked out. . .

You guys really dont get it?

People say that getting ripped off here is acceptable because foreigners have enough money to come here

I say, so be it but u must accept it when americans do the same whether at a nat park or buying a car

People say that as legal falang foreigners we have no right to complain about anything just keep our mouths shut

I say, ok then you must accept the same attitude from americans (regarding a specific race just like "falang" i.e. hispanics)

Hope that clarifies things

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[samran]

I for one just flat-out don't understand what the hispanic reference was about even if it was sincere, so if there was any sarcasm was involved it was certainly lost on me.

Don't worry, it's par for the course with Kilgore. He has a propensity to mix irrelevant analogies with out-in-left-field sarcasm, which usually results in an incoherent rant that is very similar to sounds of a certain pitch that only dogs can hear. I'd be more worried if you did understand his point.

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Thanks I'll keep that in mind - read: I'll make sure to pay close attention to his further posts to watch out for any signs of growing comprehension, and if they appear I'll get myself checked out. . .

You guys really dont get it?

People say that getting ripped off here is acceptable because foreigners have enough money to come here

I say, so be it but u must accept it when americans do the same whether at a nat park or buying a car

People say that as legal falang foreigners we have no right to complain about anything just keep our mouths shut

I say, ok then you must accept the same attitude from americans (regarding a specific race just like "falang" i.e. hispanics)

Hope that clarifies things

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So we talking hispanics here who are just illegals, or those with greencards as well? What about those with US citizenship. Plenty of those about. Curious to know your thoughts on this.

[Theoutsider]

Thailand don't like farang, but like farang money very much

Poor white man playing the victim card again.

Is it because I is ginger.

[PalMan]

People say that getting ripped off here is acceptable because foreigners have enough money to come here

I say, so be it but u must accept it when americans do the same whether at a nat park or buying a car

People say that as legal falang foreigners we have no right to complain about anything just keep our mouths shut

I say, ok then you must accept the same attitude from americans (regarding a specific race just like "falang" i.e. hispanics)

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First of all Hispanics are a "race" only in your mind, from a scientific POV there is no such classification - even the idea of "white" vs "black" isn't possible to define or identify objectively - IOW it's a culturally taught superstition.

Second, Americans that are native to Hispanic countries - it's an issue of languages and culture - are just as much Americans as the anglos and blacks. In fact in much of the south and all of the west, the Hispanic settlers colononized those territories hundreds of years before the anglos took them over - all by force against the original occupants of course.

Most of the "local discounts" at tourist attractions worldwide - in the US just as in Thailand - are based on geography of residence rather than nationality, no more "racist" and just as acceptable as here, never heard of any American, Hispanic or otherwise complain about discrimination in that context. For example, Hispanic residents of Orlando get the huge Disney local discount no matter their race or nationality.

So I agree that the situation is the same, but I think we disagree as to what the situation actually is in the first place.

The local vs tourist pricing here has nothing to do with race, much less any racist "attitudes".

[Kilgore Trout]

The local vs tourist pricing here has nothing to do with race, much less any racist "attitudes".

Are you really that naive? From my experience in Thailand it most certainly does.

Furthermore, theres no need to try to intellectualize your way out of an argument; racist attitudes are the same whether we are talking about anthropology based "races" or ethnic groups.....come on

[PalMan]

The local vs tourist pricing here has nothing to do with race, much less any racist "attitudes".

Are you really that naive? From my experience in Thailand it most certainly does.

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Then why does a copy of my tax return or my Thai drivers license - or sometimes just the fact that I speak Thai - get this honkey in at the Thai price?

Edited May 22, 2013 by PalMan

[samran]

The local vs tourist pricing here has nothing to do with race, much less any racist "attitudes".

Are you really that naive? From my experience in Thailand it most certainly does.

Furthermore, theres no need to try to intellectualize your way out of an argument; racist attitudes are the same whether we are talking about anthropology based "races" or ethnic groups.....come on:whistling:

My blond haired, blue eyed daughter gets thai prices. That is cause she is thai. How is there racial discrimination against her?

She's the one in the middle.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/279140-show-your-half-asian-baby/?p=2881065

Edited May 22, 2013 by samran

[Briandajew]

I went there with a friend (farang) who's an expat. I had a tourist visa and paid farang price. He had a retirement visa, flashed proof of residency and paid resident (Thai) price.

Has anyone else tried this with success or failure?

I took my son (he is dual Thai / UK and we live here) to the Night Safari, I was actually prepared to pay full whack just to take him out for the day, but give them credit, they asked my son in Thai if I was his father and if we lived in Thailand, they never asked me anything, they then charged us about 50 Baht each, the girl on the admissions asked the questions, I must say I was quite surprised.

Yes, I hate this dual pricing thing, especially if you live here and are living on a small income. Sometimes it just isn't worth the effort to try and save a few Baht, I keep hearing (mainly UK teachers in Thailand) moaning about having to shell out 100 Baht a month extra for something or other and how it "Mounts up over the years"...I mean 100 Baht, is that really going to kill you?

[Soutpeel]

The local vs tourist pricing here has nothing to do with race, much less any racist "attitudes".

Are you really that naive? From my experience in Thailand it most certainly does.

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Then why does a copy of my tax return or my Thai drivers license - or sometimes just the fact that I speak Thai - get this honkey in at the Thai price?

You carry a copy of your tax return with you to get into somewhere..

[Briandajew]

People say that getting ripped off here is acceptable because foreigners have enough money to come here

I say, so be it but u must accept it when americans do the same whether at a nat park or buying a car

People say that as legal falang foreigners we have no right to complain about anything just keep our mouths shut

I say, ok then you must accept the same attitude from americans (regarding a specific race just like "falang" i.e. hispanics)

-

First of all Hispanics are a "race" only in your mind, from a scientific POV there is no such classification - even the idea of "white" vs "black" isn't possible to define or identify objectively - IOW it's a culturally taught superstition.

Second, Americans that are native to Hispanic countries - it's an issue of languages and culture - are just as much Americans as the anglos and blacks. In fact in much of the south and all of the west, the Hispanic settlers colononized those territories hundreds of years before the anglos took them over - all by force against the original occupants of course.

Most of the "local discounts" at tourist attractions worldwide - in the US just as in Thailand - are based on geography of residence rather than nationality, no more "racist" and just as acceptable as here, never heard of any American, Hispanic or otherwise complain about discrimination in that context. For example, Hispanic residents of Orlando get the huge Disney local discount no matter their race or nationality.

So I agree that the situation is the same, but I think we disagree as to what the situation actually is in the first place.

The local vs tourist pricing here has nothing to do with race, much less any racist "attitudes".

What absolute utter drivel! If you believe RACE only exists in someones mind, you really need to go and get some better education.

http://erectuswalksamongst.us/

[metisdead]

Derogatory usage of another member's nic is the same as a personal attack, post removed. Other ensuing inflammatory posts and replies have been removed.

[samran]

People say that getting ripped off here is acceptable because foreigners have enough money to come here

I say, so be it but u must accept it when americans do the same whether at a nat park or buying a car

People say that as legal falang foreigners we have no right to complain about anything just keep our mouths shut

I say, ok then you must accept the same attitude from americans (regarding a specific race just like "falang" i.e. hispanics)

-

First of all Hispanics are a "race" only in your mind, from a scientific POV there is no such classification - even the idea of "white" vs "black" isn't possible to define or identify objectively - IOW it's a culturally taught superstition.

Second, Americans that are native to Hispanic countries - it's an issue of languages and culture - are just as much Americans as the anglos and blacks. In fact in much of the south and all of the west, the Hispanic settlers colononized those territories hundreds of years before the anglos took them over - all by force against the original occupants of course.

Most of the "local discounts" at tourist attractions worldwide - in the US just as in Thailand - are based on geography of residence rather than nationality, no more "racist" and just as acceptable as here, never heard of any American, Hispanic or otherwise complain about discrimination in that context. For example, Hispanic residents of Orlando get the huge Disney local discount no matter their race or nationality.

So I agree that the situation is the same, but I think we disagree as to what the situation actually is in the first place.

The local vs tourist pricing here has nothing to do with race, much less any racist "attitudes".

What absolute utter drivel! If you believe RACE only exists in someones mind, you really need to go and get some better education.

http://erectuswalksamongst.us/

I'm sorry, I can't believe that this link has been allowed to remain. From chapter 37:

"    Today, white men in the military fight all over the world, but they do not fight for the one thing that is most important to the survival of their kind – who impregnates their women. 2 They not only condone the impregnation of white women by other races, 3 they not only facilitate it, they actually celebrate it! Unless they throw off the shackles of egalitarianism and fulfill their biological destiny, there will soon be no more white babies and no more whites.

    Almost nothing is as maladaptive for whites as admitting non-white immigrants and refugees into white homelands (Salter, 2002a), yet every year white elites in churches and governments bring in tens of thousands of non-whites. Our territory is lost and our gene pool is desecrated, a slow genocide of the white race, all so the white elites can gloat in their supposed moral superiority."

[StreetCowboy]

People say that getting ripped off here is acceptable because foreigners have enough money to come here

I say, so be it but u must accept it when americans do the same whether at a nat park or buying a car

People say that as legal falang foreigners we have no right to complain about anything just keep our mouths shut

I say, ok then you must accept the same attitude from americans (regarding a specific race just like "falang" i.e. hispanics)

-

First of all Hispanics are a "race" only in your mind, from a scientific POV there is no such classification - even the idea of "white" vs "black" isn't possible to define or identify objectively - IOW it's a culturally taught superstition.

Second, Americans that are native to Hispanic countries - it's an issue of languages and culture - are just as much Americans as the anglos and blacks. In fact in much of the south and all of the west, the Hispanic settlers colononized those territories hundreds of years before the anglos took them over - all by force against the original occupants of course.

Most of the "local discounts" at tourist attractions worldwide - in the US just as in Thailand - are based on geography of residence rather than nationality, no more "racist" and just as acceptable as here, never heard of any American, Hispanic or otherwise complain about discrimination in that context. For example, Hispanic residents of Orlando get the huge Disney local discount no matter their race or nationality.

So I agree that the situation is the same, but I think we disagree as to what the situation actually is in the first place.

The local vs tourist pricing here has nothing to do with race, much less any racist "attitudes".

What absolute utter drivel! If you believe RACE only exists in someones mind, you really need to go and get some better education.

http://erectuswalksamongst.us/

I'm sorry, I can't believe that this link has been allowed to remain. From chapter 37:

"    Today, white men in the military fight all over the world, but they do not fight for the one thing that is most important to the survival of their kind – who impregnates their women. 2 They not only condone the impregnation of white women by other races, 3 they not only facilitate it, they actually celebrate it! Unless they throw off the shackles of egalitarianism and fulfill their biological destiny, there will soon be no more white babies and no more whites.

    Almost nothing is as maladaptive for whites as admitting non-white immigrants and refugees into white homelands (Salter, 2002a), yet every year white elites in churches and governments bring in tens of thousands of non-whites. Our territory is lost and our gene pool is desecrated, a slow genocide of the white race, all so the white elites can gloat in their supposed moral superiority."

All that bile because his cousin wouldn't sleep with him and ran off with a bloke from across the Pennines!

Getting back on topic, shoul farang pay more sin sot than Thai blokes, and should they get a discount if they pronounce it 'falang' and don't wai children?

SC

[Kilgore Trout]

The local vs tourist pricing here has nothing to do with race, much less any racist "attitudes".

Are you really that naive? From my experience in Thailand it most certainly does.

 

Furthermore, theres no need to try to intellectualize your way out of an argument; racist attitudes are the same whether we are talking about anthropology based "races" or ethnic groups.....come on:whistling:

My blond haired, blue eyed daughter gets thai prices. That is cause she is thai. How is there racial discrimination against her?

She's the one in the middle.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/279140-show-your-half-asian-baby/?p=2881065

Take her to lumpini boxing or the other one, grand palace, pretty much anywher on phuket, nat parks etc then come back and tell us about it

Thailand is bigger than your sheltered little world

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[bangkokburning]

All those sorts of things are better done in Singapore and even Singapore can't compare to USA.

Just not world standard so truly, unless you are paying Thai prices. It's a total gouge.

[samran]

The local vs tourist pricing here has nothing to do with race, much less any racist "attitudes".

Are you really that naive? From my experience in Thailand it most certainly does.

Furthermore, theres no need to try to intellectualize your way out of an argument; racist attitudes are the same whether we are talking about anthropology based "races" or ethnic groups.....come on:whistling:

My blond haired, blue eyed daughter gets thai prices. That is cause she is thai. How is there racial discrimination against her?

She's the one in the middle.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/279140-show-your-half-asian-baby/?p=2881065

Take her to lumpini boxing or the other one, grand palace, pretty much anywher on phuket, nat parks etc then come back and tell us about it

Thailand is bigger than your sheltered little world

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I have.

Grand Palace.just about everywhere in Phuket. Auythaya. Khao Yai. Bangkok aquarium. The zoo. Safari world. Reclining Buddha. Taken her to Cambodia to a casino, no passport checks for Thai's.

Never an issue.

Thailand isn't the conspiracy theory you want it to be.

Edited May 23, 2013 by samran

[Kilgore Trout]

I have.

Grand Palace.just about everywhere in Phuket. Auythaya. Khao Yai. Bangkok aquarium. The zoo. Safari world. Reclining Buddha. Taken her to Cambodia to a casino, no passport checks for Thai's.

Never an issue.

Thailand isn't the conspiracy theory you want it to be.

Well your experiences sound very different from mine, but then again we are talking about a child with a thai passport.

Different from those of us who are not tourists but reside and pay taxes here.

BTW, not a conspiracy theorist, just call em like I see em.....it is what it is

Edited May 24, 2013 by sbk
make sure you properly quote someone please

[Genericnic]

A visit to the relatively unknown sanctuary of truth in Pattaya is 500 baht. A visit to the famed hermitage museum in st Petersburg is a mere 150baht.

Not a case of double pricing but one of unjustified overpricing, imho.

The search for truth is always more expensive than the search for knowledge.

David

[benalibina]

Double pricing is just wrong anywhere, regardless of motivations !

[samran]

I have.

Grand Palace.just about everywhere in Phuket. Auythaya. Khao Yai. Bangkok aquarium. The zoo. Safari world. Reclining Buddha. Taken her to Cambodia to a casino, no passport checks for Thai's.

Never an issue.

Thailand isn't the conspiracy theory you want it to be.

Well your experiences sound very different from mine, but then again we are talking about a child with a thai passport.

Different from those of us who are not tourists but reside and pay taxes here.

BTW, not a conspiracy theorist, just call em like I see em.....it is what it is

We are talking about a blond haired, blue eyed, fair skinned child (with freckles) with a Thai passport.

You are banging on about a racial/racist aspect to this. Clearly, there is not.

[stevo2]

I haven't bothered to read the whole thread so I may be repeating someone..........but, we are in Thailand. How many of the people moaning here speak Thai? I speak Thai and I speak to the people collecting the money at these places in Thai. I have never had a problem. Always pay local prices.

[Big Gary]

I haven't bothered to read the whole thread so I may be repeating someone..........but, we are in Thailand. How many of the people moaning here speak Thai? I speak Thai and I speak to the people collecting the money at these places in Thai. I have never had a problem. Always pay local prices.

I just show my Drivers Licence and copy of my Tabian Ban and pay local price.

[GuestHouse]

I haven't bothered to read the whole thread so I may be repeating someone..........but, we are in Thailand. How many of the people moaning here speak Thai? I speak Thai and I speak to the people collecting the money at these places in Thai. I have never had a problem. Always pay local prices.

If you had read the thread you might have spotted the posts referring to dual pricing for heath care.

Trust me, speaking Thai does not get you the Thai price and if the price is out of reach then no medical care.

While I find dual pricing in tourist attractions a petty annoyance dual pricing for medical care which inevitably places the care out of reach of some is something far more serious.

Two people enter a private hospital for the same treatment, one is charged double the price on the basis of not being Thai - Simply wrong on so many levels.

[stevo2]

I haven't bothered to read the whole thread so I may be repeating someone..........but, we are in Thailand. How many of the people moaning here speak Thai? I speak Thai and I speak to the people collecting the money at these places in Thai. I have never had a problem. Always pay local prices.

If you had read the thread you might have spotted the posts referring to dual pricing for heath care.

Trust me, speaking Thai does not get you the Thai price and if the price is out of reach then no medical care.

While I find dual pricing in tourist attractions a petty annoyance dual pricing for medical care which inevitably places the care out of reach of some is something far more serious.

Two people enter a private hospital for the same treatment, one is charged double the price on the basis of not being Thai - Simply wrong on so many levels.

I am part of the Thai social security system. I pay the same as Thai people. Covers me for any health problems.

Guess speaking Thai does help after all.

[krystian]

Ahow them a work permit if uou have it works all the time for me

[Kilgore Trout]

 

I have.

Grand Palace.just about everywhere in Phuket. Auythaya. Khao Yai. Bangkok aquarium. The zoo. Safari world. Reclining Buddha. Taken her to Cambodia to a casino, no passport checks for Thai's.

Never an issue.

Thailand isn't the conspiracy theory you want it to be.

 

 

 

 

Well your experiences sound very different from mine, but then again we are talking about a child with a thai passport.

 

Different from those of us who are not tourists but reside and pay taxes here.

 

BTW, not a conspiracy theorist, just call em like I see em.....it is what it is

 

 

We are talking about a blond haired, blue eyed, fair skinned child (with freckles) with a Thai passport.

 

You are banging on about a racial/racist aspect to this. Clearly, there is not.

Clearly there is, you are clearly a minority, most likely a troll

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