Thai Police Say They Know Identities Of Central World Arson Suspects

[tragickingdom]

If they refuse..... This sentence is only used for people with significant influence in society, political leaders, army people and other elite. Any ordinary arsonists would have been killed on the spot by Abhisit's puppets.

[nachiket]

Why police is so slow here?

Work fast and give faster results like Scotland Yard.

[Emdog]

It could have been solved much earlier, but BIB were too busy fining expat terrorists 2000 baht in the area trying to burn down MBK etc by flicking a cigarette butt.

[waza]

Here they are............

Took time to load all the tyres in there....

I bet these are fake redshirts

Is this the same guy from the first pic?

Edited May 23, 2013 by waza

[midimaster]

I thought 'they' burned it.

[Katipo]

It's been 3 years and their only just getting photos released and witnesses interviewed??

They were waiting for the big reward by Thaksin, which was just announced a few days ago. Once Thaksin puts up the money, the wheels got rolling.

The reward comes with the precondition that those arrested claim no affiliation to Thaksin & the Red Shirts, and acted purely of their own volition. Seriously, you wait and see.

[spermwhale]

It's been 3 years and their only just getting photos released and witnesses interviewed??

That's EXACTLY what I thought when I read the paper this morning. <deleted>? Thaksin says he wants to help finding who torched Central World and the VERY next day the police produce pictures?

Sometimes this country really stinks.

[spermwhale]

Why police is so slow here?

Work fast and give faster results like Scotland Yard.

Uhhh.... I'm going out on a limb here: corruption.

[bigbamboo]

I hope these two don't disappear forever in a landslip....

[khunken]

Would it be too outrageous to suggest that DPM ear-medicine-man has prompted the police to suddenly spring into action.

Plus some sort of reward for the police to find the 'right' perps.

[gemini81]

Let me guess, yellows dressed in red to set them up...must've been 'pre-meditated' set up again by Abhisit..haha.

[oldsailor35]

Of course somehow they won't be connected with the Red Shirts - some outside agitators or possibly government plants. Just like the lot who tried to burn down the building next to my house. Never the Red Shirts - always someone else.

Yes i know ! it was'nt the redshirts who committed the act of terrorism at Suvarnabumi was it !

[MrSlatersParrot]

Interesting that this article was alluded to in the other paper:

http://www.prachatai.com/english/node/3520

Case of Central World arson to be ruled in late March
Sun, 17/02/2013 - 14:33 | by prachatai


"Another defence witness was Pol Lt Col Chumphon Bunprayun, Secretary General of the Public Disaster Relief Volunteer Association of Thailand and an advisor on fire prevention to Central Pattana Plc which owns Central World.

He said that during the time of the red-shirt rally at Ratchaprasong intersection, a safety and fire prevention plan was drawn up for Central World. The mall’s staff included a team of 25 full-time professional firefighters. It had all the facilities needed to deal with any fire incidents, in accordance with international standards, he said.

He said that at about 2 pm on that day, a group of about 14 people entered the shopping mall by smashing glass windows, but were chased away by the mall’s 180-strong security staff. About an hour later, another group of about 7-8 people dressed in military-like attire and carrying weapons came in. The security staff tried to stop them, but were met with bombs thrown at them. 25 policemen who had come to arrest people hiding inside the mall had to withdraw from the place.

Edited May 23, 2013 by metisdead
Edited as per fair use policy.

[creekside]

With a reward of 10 million baht for 'information', there are many people in this country that would swear it was their own Grandmother that torched Central World, in fact if it means the accused is locked up for life I can swear it was my Mother In Law for no reward at all.

I await with eager anticipation the photoshopped photos of Abhisit and Suthep smiling at the security camera whilst holding military grade flamethrowers, holding a piece of paper which when you zoom in clearly says "Abby and Sutty Top Secret Plan for burning down a shopping Mall". With that DSI will have enough to put them away for 25 years, or at least have 25 years of half day court hearings in between Parliamentary sessions.

Edited to add: As the link to the paper that cannot be mentioned will disappear in nano seconds, it seems true then. Thaksin has offered 10 million baht for EACH convicted arsonist!!! They will be dragging homeless retards of the street and charging them by this time next week. Watch the bunfight for that money now!

He must only be half as sure of the situation as when he made his earlier 20 million baht reward offer on another issue.

Thaksin is the hub of reward proffers.

http://news.voicetv.co.th/in-english/16802.html

[waza]

Interesting that this article was alluded to in the other paper:

http://www.prachatai.com/english/node/3520

Case of Central World arson to be ruled in late March

Sun, 17/02/2013 - 14:33 | by prachatai

"Another defence witness was Pol Lt Col Chumphon Bunprayun, Secretary General of the Public Disaster Relief Volunteer Association of Thailand and an advisor on fire prevention to Central Pattana Plc which owns Central World.

He said that during the time of the red-shirt rally at Ratchaprasong intersection, a safety and fire prevention plan was drawn up for Central World. The mall’s staff included a team of 25 full-time professional firefighters. It had all the facilities needed to deal with any fire incidents, in accordance with international standards, he said.

He said that at about 2 pm on that day, a group of about 14 people entered the shopping mall by smashing glass windows, but were chased away by the mall’s 180-strong security staff. About an hour later, another group of about 7-8 people dressed in military-like attire and carrying weapons came in. The security staff tried to stop them, but were met with bombs thrown at them. 25 policemen who had come to arrest people hiding inside the mall had to withdraw from the place.

So at what point were the shops looted?

Or did the army stand back and watch the redshirts loot?

[MrSlatersParrot]

Interesting that this article was alluded to in the other paper:

http://www.prachatai.com/english/node/3520

Case of Central World arson to be ruled in late March

Sun, 17/02/2013 - 14:33 | by prachatai

"Another defence witness was Pol Lt Col Chumphon Bunprayun, Secretary General of the Public Disaster Relief Volunteer Association of Thailand and an advisor on fire prevention to Central Pattana Plc which owns Central World.

He said that during the time of the red-shirt rally at Ratchaprasong intersection, a safety and fire prevention plan was drawn up for Central World. The mall’s staff included a team of 25 full-time professional firefighters. It had all the facilities needed to deal with any fire incidents, in accordance with international standards, he said.

He said that at about 2 pm on that day, a group of about 14 people entered the shopping mall by smashing glass windows, but were chased away by the mall’s 180-strong security staff. About an hour later, another group of about 7-8 people dressed in military-like attire and carrying weapons came in. The security staff tried to stop them, but were met with bombs thrown at them. 25 policemen who had come to arrest people hiding inside the mall had to withdraw from the place.

So at what point were the shops looted?

looters.jpg

looters 1.jpg

looter 3.jpg

Or did the army stand back and watch the redshirts loot?

There was F-all looting done.

Was Centralworld looted.

I don't think so as all the shops inside had their security barriers down as was shown the following day when the police entered.

The looting that took place was miniscule. Compare and contrast what happened recently in London.

Remember the jewellers who claimed police took off with their inventory.

The major losses were to the surrounding businesses (and i know some of them) who serously lost business over the 3 months of the protests.

The redshirts were allowed to use the toilets in Centralworld which was quite decent considering all the Abhisit activites in cutting off power, water and mobile connections.

[gemini81]

of course there was looting & of course it was goods from central world! Some key players were even caught with the stash in their cars. It helps to have been here at the time, as well as residing here. Insulting our intelligence when people try to reinvent what did/didn't happen. Yeah, local jewelers as well. You think they'd break in there without seizing items? Hell, they were there torching things just for a few hundred baht a day for crying out loud.

Edited May 23, 2013 by gemini81

[waza]

Interesting that this article was alluded to in the other paper:

http://www.prachatai.com/english/node/3520

Case of Central World arson to be ruled in late March

Sun, 17/02/2013 - 14:33 | by prachatai

"Another defence witness was Pol Lt Col Chumphon Bunprayun, Secretary General of the Public Disaster Relief Volunteer Association of Thailand and an advisor on fire prevention to Central Pattana Plc which owns Central World.

He said that during the time of the red-shirt rally at Ratchaprasong intersection, a safety and fire prevention plan was drawn up for Central World. The mall’s staff included a team of 25 full-time professional firefighters. It had all the facilities needed to deal with any fire incidents, in accordance with international standards, he said.

He said that at about 2 pm on that day, a group of about 14 people entered the shopping mall by smashing glass windows, but were chased away by the mall’s 180-strong security staff. About an hour later, another group of about 7-8 people dressed in military-like attire and carrying weapons came in. The security staff tried to stop them, but were met with bombs thrown at them. 25 policemen who had come to arrest people hiding inside the mall had to withdraw from the place.

So at what point were the shops looted?

looters.jpg

looters 1.jpg

looter 3.jpg

Or did the army stand back and watch the redshirts loot?

There was F-all looting done.

Was Centralworld looted.

I don't think so as all the shops inside had their security barriers down as was shown the following day when the police entered.

The looting that took place was miniscule. Compare and contrast what happened recently in London.

Remember the jewellers who claimed police took off with their inventory.

The major losses were to the surrounding businesses (and i know some of them) who serously lost business over the 3 months of the protests.

The redshirts were allowed to use the toilets in Centralworld which was quite decent considering all the Abhisit activites in cutting off power, water and mobile connections.

BANGKOK, May 19, 2010 (AFP) -- Huge fires swept through major buildings in central Bangkok on Wednesday as looting and arson gripped the Thai capital after a deadly army crackdown on anti-government protesters........The authorities said enraged protesters -- some wearing black and carrying automatic weapons -- went on the rampage and set fire to at least 15 buildings. Military officials told AFP a helicopter had been dispatched to try to rescue at least 100 people trapped in the offices of the Channel 3 TV station after it was attacked and set on fire.

BANGKOK, Thailand - One of Thailand's biggest shopping malls, Central World, was engulfed in flames after rioting protesters torched it in the aftermath of a military crackdown.

An AP photographer saw rioters looting the mall, which is adjacent to the anti-government protest site cleared earlier Wednesday by troops. http://www.theguardian.pe.ca/Living/2010-05-19/article-1290207/Major-shopping-mall-looted,-torched-in-Bangkok-as-arson-attacks-spread-across-Thai-capital/1

BANGKOK: There was still no peace in Bangkok last night as fleeing protesters looted shops and set fire to buildings despite a day of bloodshed and brute military force.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/looters-descend-after-bangkoks-day-of-bloodshed-20100519-vfbv.html#ixzz2U6qBLW00

There wasn't an ATM left in central Bangkok

[mikemac]

I bet that slimy little worm in Dubai is proud of this, the icing on the cake as far as the carnage brought upon Bangkok. Bet the brain-dead morons who support him are proud as well.

[MrSlatersParrot]

of course there was looting & of course it was goods from central world! Some key players were even caught with the stash in their cars. It helps to have been here at the time, as well as residing here. Insulting our intelligence when people try to reinvent what did/didn't happen. Yeah, local jewelers as well. You think they'd break in there without seizing items? Hell, they were there torching things just for a few hundred baht a day for crying out loud.

Well I lived through both Brixton riots so I 've seen home grown looting and looting that occurred in the heart of Bangkok too.

I was here and heard the gunhote at the end of our soi.

Those shops looted were not your hi-so shopping but cheap local shops and those arrested for looting?

Seized with cheap watches, trainers etc. Trashy goods. Probably copies.

If the british police were similarly armed to the thai soldiers I expect the level of looting in the UK Brixton riots would have been much higher along with a commenserate death toll.

Civil unrest would have spread throughout the country.

Scarman report. In spades I warrant!

Centralworld shops were all barred and anyway the shop security staff were all forced out by the thai army at 4:40.

They could neither protect the building nor stop it from burning down. FACT.

There were 30,000 soldiers surrounding Centralworld by then but still it burnt.

Makes me not you wonder!

[waza]

I bet that slimy little worm in Dubai is proud of this, the icing on the cake as far as the carnage brought upon Bangkok. Bet the brain-dead morons who support him are proud as well.

Yes those poor misguided fools that just parrot Thaksin's fantasy world.

[steveromagnino]

no looting???

There was widespread looting depending how you define widespread in Big C and CentralWorld, and a few protesters died in the fires. The inside of almost all the shopping centers in the area were accessed and damaged as looters attempted to find items of value.

Most of the landlords and brands had been paying the redshirt protest leaders for access to their own shops, and had been removing as much inventory as they could in the weeks since the area was shut down. Each trip into the area required a payment for access, and it became increasingly expensive and difficult as time went on to get inside the area.

CentralWorld allowed access to some bathroom facilities alledgedly under threat of the building not being able to be 'protected' if they did not do so. Gaysorn, Hyatt and other buildings in the area are owned by related parties to the TRT/PTP/PPP governments (e.g. Intercon is owned by the family of former minister Pimol) and so may have been able to cut deals of protection and control (the mob were actually quite well behaved for the most part when asked to behave).

A number of protesters were caught 'red handed' so to speak as they left the area, with various goods and items that were looted. However, compared to London or New Orleans, the level of looting was far, far lower.

The reason why essential services were cut was because the red shirt protesters attempted to take control of rubbish trucks belonging to the BMA who until that point were still going and providing basic services to the area including collecting trash. Thereafter, very quickly the entire zone became a massive trash heap. Mobile services and water were cut IIRC when they set up the cordon around the area about 1 week prior to the actual clampdown, and was obviously leading to the clampdown to remove the protest.

There was not much 'peaceful' about the invasion of the Chula hospital, nor the documented violence. nor the physical assaults (including the one I personally enjoyed) on the outskirts of the borderline of their 'camp' for actions by the public perceived to be threats or otherwise. Nor the unauthorised searches and groping of embassy staff in the Langsuan area etc etc. Again, many, many red shirt protesters played no part in this.

Therefore to suggest there was f**-all looting is neither true nor accurate, nor reflective of the evidence and experience of those of us from that area of Bangkok.

[lee b]

wow they took there time then !!

[khunken]

of course there was looting & of course it was goods from central world! Some key players were even caught with the stash in their cars. It helps to have been here at the time, as well as residing here. Insulting our intelligence when people try to reinvent what did/didn't happen. Yeah, local jewelers as well. You think they'd break in there without seizing items? Hell, they were there torching things just for a few hundred baht a day for crying out loud.

Well I lived through both Brixton riots so I 've seen home grown looting and looting that occurred in the heart of Bangkok too.

I was here and heard the gunhote at the end of our soi.

Those shops looted were not your hi-so shopping but cheap local shops and those arrested for looting?

Seized with cheap watches, trainers etc. Trashy goods. Probably copies.

If the british police were similarly armed to the thai soldiers I expect the level of looting in the UK Brixton riots would have been much higher along with a commenserate death toll.

Civil unrest would have spread throughout the country.

Scarman report. In spades I warrant!

Centralworld shops were all barred and anyway the shop security staff were all forced out by the thai army at 4:40.

They could neither protect the building nor stop it from burning down. FACT.

There were 30,000 soldiers surrounding Centralworld by then but still it burnt.

Makes me not you wonder!

You first post a one -sided piece of propaganda and follow it up with more untruths, half-truths & irrelevancies.

What happened in the UK is irrelevant to this thread. All reports I've seen support the looting of Central World. You are just trying to obfuscate by alleging that other places were the only ones looted.

The army did not order the security staff at Central World out. They left when threatened by men in uniform & it's not difficult to understand who they were.

Nor was the whole area under army control when the arson started. It started while the army were clearing the area of protestors & having to check everywhere for possible armed red (or black) shirt stragglers. No security force will allow the firefighters in until the whole area, including inside the buildings, is safe.

[bigbamboo]

Police say they know identities of Central World arson suspects

>...Khamronwit said police could not release the suspects' names...

...Khamronwit urged the public to provide information that could help confirm the two suspected arsonists' ident

ity...

They know, but can't tell, and want help identifying them...

So they're not very sure, are they.

And if they know 'as they claim' what the <deleted> are they doing about it?

And to think people used to laugh at the Keystone Kops.

[ginjag]

Police say they know identities of Central World arson suspects

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blockquote>

>...Khamronwit said police could not release the suspects' names...

...Khamronwit urged the public to provide information that could help confirm the two suspected arsonists' ident

ity...

They know, but can't tell, and want help identifying them...

So they're not very sure, are they.

And if they know 'as they claim' what the &lt;deleted&gt; are they doing about it?

And to think people used to laugh at the Keystone Kops.

Just to think what could have been avoided, the police in the first place stopping the mass transport of paid reds to the capitol, gatherings of not more than x amount of people.

To me the total lack of police when tyres and bamboos were transported into Bkk to set up barriers, and not a normal barrier, giant sized ones. When everyday road blocks are set up everywhere in Thailand to catch persons with no crash hat or a mirror missing.from thier m/cycle.

Not bashing just fact.

[AleG]

And as more evidence piles up, Red Shirt fans slide further and further into self delusion.

It's amusing, a little sad, but amusing to see this process.

[rubl]

"There were 30,000 soldiers surrounding Centralworld by then but still it burnt." ?

I guess in a manner of speech, those 30,000 surrounding CWT that is. Although protesters tend to amass to form an (almost) unmovable, peaceful wall, the military like to spread out a wee bit in order to be able to function.

[Pi Sek]

And as more evidence piles up, Red Shirt fans slide further and further into self delusion.

It's amusing, a little sad, but amusing to see this process.

Reminds me of the recent "Thaksin should respect the Law" thread where a pro-Red poster claimed that Thaksin "could not be considered a terrorist if he was organising and funding the armed faction of Red Shirts". His justification of this - "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter".

Truly, I've had Red Shirts claim to me until they're blue in the face (ironic, eh) that the army killed 20 Red Shirts in 2009 too, although we've yet to hear about any witnesses, missing persons reported - nada. Or that Jatuporn's proven fake voice clip of Abhisit issuing orders to "kill them all" wasn't actually faked after all

Astonishing (to me, anyway). A little sad, yes, but I'm a little too jai-ron to consider it "amusing". Amazing, maybe.

[whybother]

If they refuse..... This sentence is only used for people with significant influence in society, political leaders, army people and other elite. Any ordinary arsonists would have been killed on the spot by Abhisit's puppets.

.

Abhisit has puppets now?

You can't keep your stories straight, can you?