axact Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 what a waste AGAIN,,sadly they wont ever learn,sleeping policemen at blackspots may help,,but i doubt it,, Sleeping policemen ? they're dozy enough when awake ! mind you the idea of running over a few is pretty appealing. Sooner we have cars that drive themselves on the mass market the better, Especially for the accident rate in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushi5734 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Self driving cars are pretty close to reality but I wouldn't want them here in Thailand, if you thought people were complacent about safety now, imagine how blasé people would be with an auto pilot, you would have people in deep sleep at the steering wheel or even laid out on the back seats! Sounds fanciful but we all know that this would happen. I don't know the exact in's and out's of this bump but heavy rain and a bend notorious enough to be given a special name by the locals, would probably make me slow me down a bit, but then I do realise that actions have consequences, I think learned that when I was about 2 or 3 years old. It's about time that a few people were publicly shamed and jailed for their disgraceful driving, a lot of people need to lose face in this country for a whole range of issues but I'm not going to hold my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeinbangkok Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 These sad and avoidable incidences continue to happen because of the serious ineffectivenessof the police and the government authorities, not to mention, the Mai Pen Raiattitude. R.I.P all those who passed away in this horrific accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackinbkk Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 9 dead is a huge number for one accident, but it's just a tiny blip on the radar that is the death toll on the Thai roads. No training for drivers, no traffic enforcement, powerful vehicles, and horribly designed and maintained roads. It can only be a population control measure. There is no other explanation. It's pure madness. This is what happens when you pile 10 or more people into the back of a pickup without seat belts and roll bars.It's why it's banned in the west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finnomick Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Road conditions are not the cause of an accident. The inability to drive according to the road conditions is the cause of an accident. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hubahuba Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Police believe road conditions were the cause of the accident. However, they are continuing their investigation. No. That wasn't the cause. RIP to all victims and condolences to their families and friends. Correct "the road was not the cause" it was the 'xxxxwits behind the steering wheels (either one or both) xxxxwits......loose nut head behind steering wheel more likely.....RIP to victims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spermwhale Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Seems like poor driving skills in the rain. Tragic loss of life ... RIP And obviously a dangerous and deadly corner that many other have died at, hence the fact that turn has a name. But of course, nobody in Thailand would think to fix a lethal hazard. too much work. See you in the next life Somchai!!! I'm not belittling this sSo so so so sad news, it's just that it's just the same thing all the time. Even after tragedy they don't get and don't think to get it fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdoom6996 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Police believe road conditions were the cause of the accident. However, they are continuing their investigation. No. That wasn't the cause. RIP to all victims and condolences to their families and friends. Of course it was not the cause, agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theajarn Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 (edited) What a sad end to the festivities... But these kind of accidents with many deaths always happen when people are transported back of pickups. R:I:P: Too true. Bad conditions is one thing, reckless driving is another. Then you just have plain stupid -- transporting people as if they were cargo. I mean a pick-up is one thing, but you see how many families, children and babies are jammed on a scooter these days. Life means nothing to these people. Or maybe they all took out life insurance -- who knows? In that case I wouldn't fear death either. But sure as hell would fear disability. Edited May 25, 2013 by theajarn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theajarn Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Typical thai driving was the reason for this disaster, not the road conditions. Any normal driver adjust his speed to accomodate the conditions. I have lived in USA and UK for longer than I have lived in Thailand, but I do not know of one friend or even acquaintance that has been killed in those countries. Here I have lost count ! Darwin,s theory in action, but it is tragic when an expat driving sensibly gets mowed down by these non-thinking maniacs. A lot of people here in Virginia will disagree, and so will I to a point. Seems the only time people here 'adjust to conditions' is when their vehicle is stuck in the snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre0720 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Darn it. I am always getting more and more worried. Now a ''road condition'' can just appear from nowhere and kill me... I should walk more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre0720 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 9 dead is a huge number for one accident, but it's just a tiny blip on the radar that is the death toll on the Thai roads. No training for drivers, no traffic enforcement, powerful vehicles, and horribly designed and maintained roads. It can only be a population control measure. There is no other explanation. It's pure madness. This is what happens when you pile 10 or more people into the back of a pickup without seat belts and roll bars.It's why it's banned in the west. Should be allowed in the west, and banned in the east... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briandajew Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 What a sad end to the festivities... But these kind of accidents with many deaths always happen when people are transported back of pickups. R:I:P: Kind of have to disagree on that one, people are transported in pick ups every day - No problem, it just seems as usual there was an areshole driving the pick up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briandajew Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Typical thai driving was the reason for this disaster, not the road conditions. Any normal driver adjust his speed to accomodate the conditions. I have lived in USA and UK for longer than I have lived in Thailand, but I do not know of one friend or even acquaintance that has been killed in those countries. Here I have lost count ! Darwin,s theory in action, but it is tragic when an expat driving sensibly gets mowed down by these non-thinking maniacs. Totally agree, driven by an <deleted>! and everyone else pays the price! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobelcat Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 9 dead, 10 injurred. So a total of AT LEAST 19 people between two regular pickup trucks (not extended cab trucks). So 2 or 3 people *maybe* in the cab, that leaves 11 more between the two beds of trucks. Not really surprised at the death count when seatbelts aren't being worn and you're outside of the truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Tragedy but not a surprise. Everyone posting knows the drivers hear cut corners all the time and never drive according to conditions. It is always sunny and dry in there world so pedal to the metal all the time. RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimamey Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Police believe road conditions were the cause of the accident. However, they are continuing their investigation. No. That wasn't the cause. RIP to all victims and condolences to their families and friends. RIP to those killed. Such a waste of life. I agree that the road conditions weren't the cause of the accident and the fact the police have apparently said this shows how little they know about driving. Driving in rain won't cause you to lose control. What will is excessive speed, overloaded vehicle and aquaplaning possibly due to lack of tread depth on the tyres. The only possible mitigating factor could be standing water obscured by a corner but if you're driving at the right speed then even this should be avoidable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimamey Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 What a sad end to the festivities... But these kind of accidents with many deaths always happen when people are transported back of pickups. R:I:P: Kind of have to disagree on that one, people are transported in pick ups every day - No problem, it just seems as usual there was an areshole driving the pick up! I agree the driver is responsible but as andygunther says the number of deaths is a consequence of large numbers of people unsecured in the pick up bed. If you hit something everyone is thrown forward crushing those in front and if you're thrown out you are in trouble anyway. Those inside the cab possibly weren't wearing seat belts either and if there are back seat passengers without belts then they can hit those in front. Accidents will happen and sometimes they're caused by other but that's the reason for taking precautions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxYakov Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 9 dead is a huge number for one accident, but it's just a tiny blip on the radar that is the death toll on the Thai roads. No training for drivers, no traffic enforcement, powerful vehicles, and horribly designed and maintained roads. It can only be a population control measure. There is no other explanation. It's pure madness. When it comes to your 'population control measure' hypothesis ... are you sure it should be labeled as 'pure madness'? Oh, yeah don't forget about poorly-maintained vehicles and the alcohol factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Mamma Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Road death, cause of most casualties here by far. When you get on any road, beware and good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masuk Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 At a wild guess, I'd say the back of each pick up was crammed with guests. I see it every day on the highway, with about 10 - 12 workers squeezed into the back, along with timber, iron etc. Not much chance for the passengers when these things collide or roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Im actually staying inside the Klongthom Police Station, if I'm not mistaken almost 20+ ambulance are all rushing to the scene during that time, I know Its a huge accident, but I never thought of that number of casualty. RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirchai Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 RIP. A speedy and full recovery for the injured ones.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djlest Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 it was raining its not my fault!RIP to all those who were murdered by the idiot with more ego than brains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomadJoe Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 from experience the slightest moisture on the roads is enough to slide on the cornersThat is actually when the roads are the slickest. I watched one day the motorists on one hill coming down into Kata here in Phuket after it rained just enough to moisten the roads after 3 weeks of no rain. The oil and rubber that had collected on the road since the last rain mixes with the water and becomes slicker than snot. One bike after another went down, and those are bikes doing 10-20km. You couldn't even stand up on it. Most people, like myself, pulled off the road realizing it was essentially impassable until it either rained harder or dried. This is also a problem with the water trucks as they are too lazy to close the lids of the tanks and so splash water all over the roads. Coming down the same road mentioned above one day I saw 3 different bikes down after a water truck had spilled water on the roadway after a period of no rain. All were Thai, and one old lady was being tended to by an ambulance crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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