German Gang Leader Escapes Interpol At Suvarnabhumi Airport

[DRONGOH]

What is more amazing I heard that he was 78 years and in wheel chair

Brakes failure. Pretty common here in Thai.

[DRONGOH]

What is more amazing I heard that he was 78 years and in wheel chair

Yeh but.....................................................

That's him!!!

[smotherb]

GrantSmith, on 27 May 2013 - 10:16, said:

falang07, on 27 May 2013 - 10:04, said:

Should not be a big problem to catch him in Germany when the plane lands then, or did I miss something?

Edit: After reading it again, it seems he did not board any flight so the above assumption is wrong

Depends on which article you believe... One has him going to Germany and the other has him going to Australia...

The lead article here has him coming from Australia and going to Germany; hence, the intransit state at swampy

[lee b]

May be he transformed into a ladyboy and fooled everyone

[Songhua]

This story is lacking in details. What sort of "German gang"? What were the charges against him? Was he carrying a passport? Are the RTP looking for him now? Etc.

According to another source, he is the leader of a gang of thieves and was being escorted by German police from Australia to Germany. There was an inference that there are means to exit the airport without going through the normal processes - but it's difficult to imagine anyone exiting to the tarmac or secure areas without inside help.

[mca]

What is more amazing I heard that he was 78 years and in wheel chair

[HarryMilton]

This story is lacking in details. What sort of "German gang"? What were the charges against him? Was he carrying a passport? Are the RTP looking for him now? Etc.

Why would those details make any difference to the report? Or do you mean the authorities should have provided you with more information so that your investigation can begin?

[HarryMilton]

Does this guy have a name? How about posting a photo of him? I'd keep my eyes open here in Pattaya if I knew what he looked like... All seems a bit odd to me. Bader-Meinhof gang?

Maybe the authorities have a photo of him for their use and all relevant parties are privy to it? Why the hell would they want to post it on ThaiVisa? It's not exactly the be-all and end-all of investigative agencies.

[Nisa]

Wonder if someone in transit on that day reported their passport missing?

I would have thought that it would be compulsory for escorts to inform the authorities of the transiting country (in this case Thailand) that they had a fugitive in tow. I am certain that the airline would have to be informed.

It sounds like they didn't tell anyone they had a prisoner which makes one believe he probably was not cuffed and was carrying his own passport when he gave the Australian police escorting him the slip.

Edited May 27, 2013 by Nisa

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

None of us know exactly what went on here...

But before everyone starts ganging up on Interpol, it might be worth noting one of the posts made above...

It also was my impression that Interpol isn't in the business of transporting arrested suspects from one country to another.

They are in the business of coordinating international law enforcement stuff. But if the suspect was indeed being brought back to Germany, my impression would be that some type of German authority/officer would have been doing the transporting -- not Interpol....

I­nterpol differs from most law-enforcement agencies — agents do not make arrests themselves, and there is no single Interpol jail where criminals are taken. The agency functions as an administrative liaison between the law-enforcement agencies of the member countries, providing communications and database assistance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpol#Methodology

Edited May 27, 2013 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[Nisa]

None of us know exactly what went on here...

But before everyone starts ganging up on Interpol, it might be worth noting one of the posts made above...

It also was my impression that Interpol isn't in the business of transporting arrested suspects from one country to another.

They are in the business of coordinating international law enforcement stuff. But if the suspect was indeed being brought back to Germany, my impression would be that some type of German authority/officer would have been doing the transporting -- not Interpol....

I­nterpol differs from most law-enforcement agencies — agents do not make arrests themselves, and there is no single Interpol jail where criminals are taken. The agency functions as an administrative liaison between the law-enforcement agencies of the member countries, providing communications and database assistance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpol#Methodology

The news says Australian police were escorting him

Edited May 27, 2013 by Nisa

[Trembly]

None of us know exactly what went on here...

But before everyone starts ganging up on Interpol, it might be worth noting one of the posts made above...

It also was my impression that Interpol isn't in the business of transporting arrested suspects from one country to another.

They are in the business of coordinating international law enforcement stuff. But if the suspect was indeed being brought back to Germany, my impression would be that some type of German authority/officer would have been doing the transporting -- not Interpol....

If I'm not mistaken, the bulk of Interpol's manpower comes from existing personnel of signatory police forces. It would appear that in this case it was Australian (Federal?) Police who had 'donned their Interpol caps for the day' for this job. How much extra specialist expertise do you need to escort a lone prisoner on a commercial flight anyway?

[NongKhaiKid]

Doesn't give me much confidence in general security at the Airport.

The meeting being convened will be to get convenient excuses ready because if usual procedure was followed the prisoner would at some point been in Thai custody so they are looking at incompetence, neglect of duty or something a lot more sinister.

[Billy The Kid]

Money Talks in Thailand... 99% success.

[Baerboxer]

None of us know exactly what went on here...

But before everyone starts ganging up on Interpol, it might be worth noting one of the posts made above...

It also was my impression that Interpol isn't in the business of transporting arrested suspects from one country to another.

They are in the business of coordinating international law enforcement stuff. But if the suspect was indeed being brought back to Germany, my impression would be that some type of German authority/officer would have been doing the transporting -- not Interpol....

If I'm not mistaken, the bulk of Interpol's manpower comes from existing personnel of signatory police forces. It would appear that in this case it was Australian (Federal?) Police who had 'donned their Interpol caps for the day' for this job. How much extra specialist expertise do you need to escort a lone prisoner on a commercial flight anyway?

Indeed. The escorting officers, whether Aussies or German's are no doubt facing interogation. Incompetent, pissed, distracted by the ladies, corrupt etc.

You would expect the Thai authorities to be informed that a prisoner was being transited through one of their airports. All looks a bit sloppy by the Aussie and German police.

Edited May 27, 2013 by Baerboxer

[aechzen]

he dressed up as an interpol agent !!! and nobody see him

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

The news says Australian police were escorting him.

Well, it depends on which "news" you're referring to...

The OP in this thread, the Coconuts rewrite, simply says Interpol.

But the BKK Post article it links to, starts out saying Interpol, then switches to saying the guy was being escorted by Australian police, and then makes a final reference to the guy arriving to Swampy with Interpol officers on a THAI Airways flight.

So take your pick...

[lemoncake]

Before so many jump on bashing wagon. you should know how this things work.

Person is escorted by Oz police to BKK, where German police suppose to meet and take over.

It is not uncommon for second party not to show up or show up at the wrong place.

They may also place person in custody of local police, however locals are not usually provided many specifics.

Special note for TV finest. No i did not experience it myself, yes i did have a friend who managed to run TWICE, yes he was a criminal and yes i am aware of my circle of friends.

Edited May 27, 2013 by lemoncake

[Billy The Kid]

And the lord worked in mysteries ways....

[gamini]

Guess he is in Pattaya by now. Protected by all the criminals that live there

[lemoncake]

Guess he is in Pattaya by now. Protected by all the criminals that live there

Keep on guessing

[nachiket]

Something is cooking here.

Escaped or released purposely?

[NanLaew]

To move from the transit area to land side, at some point one needs to pass through Thai Immigration. There was someone who posted a few months back about being able to miss Immigration completely while on one of those CIQ transits. Maybe the German got lucky and managed to slip through that crack and walk through Domestic arrivals into LOS.

In that case I doubt he will be in Pattaya, the hub of "Hello hansum man." More likely he's down Khaosan Road, the hub of "What flavour passport do you want with that Chang?"

[kannot]

Ha hah ha you can just picture this can't you.

"are you the German gang leader Fritz?"

"nein" ooops I mean" no" immigration officer, pass , next

[lemoncake]

To move from the transit area to land side, at some point one needs to pass through Thai Immigration. There was someone who posted a few months back about being able to miss Immigration completely while on one of those CIQ transits. Maybe the German got lucky and managed to slip through that crack and walk through Domestic arrivals into LOS.

In that case I doubt he will be in Pattaya, the hub of "Hello hansum man." More likely he's down Khaosan Road, the hub of "What flavour passport do you want with that Chang?"

It is NOT uncommon to make a call and have friends fly in with new passport from another country. Eastern Block countries have very cheap passports

[bri1guy]

He's Probably on his way to Pattaya ... How did he get out of the airport while heading from Australia to Germany ?

THE alleged Gang leader was able to escape in the transit area, which is outside the bureau's jurisdiction, Couldn't Interpol have Thai police at the airport during the layover??

[moonray]

Sometime ago similar story happened in Heathrow.I know it from news.What I remember - it was very long intercontinental flight from Australia

to another country in Europe with 2 escorting officers.They were changing flights in Heathrow - exconvict was on his way to his native country to face more justice there.By the law - he had to carry his passport,he tricked his escorts and he walked through immigration;not to be seen till today.UK immigration did not stop him,cause they did not know about him

This bizness of transporting prisners or wanted/deported people internationally, is on shaky ground from legal point of view.For instance - they could not use

any restraining devices;and escorts - could not not be armed.Big loss of face and following emberassment was very difficult to digest.

[moonray]

To move from the transit area to land side, at some point one needs to pass through Thai Immigration. There was someone who posted a few months back about being able to miss Immigration completely while on one of those CIQ transits. Maybe the German got lucky and managed to slip through that crack and walk through Domestic arrivals into LOS.

In that case I doubt he will be in Pattaya, the hub of "Hello hansum man." More likely he's down Khaosan Road, the hub of "What flavour passport do you want with that Chang?"

It is NOT uncommon to make a call and have friends fly in with new passport from another country. Eastern Block countries have very cheap passports

BS!

[Trembly]

He's Probably on his way to Pattaya ... How did he get out of the airport while heading from Australia to Germany ?

THE alleged Gang leader was able to escape in the transit area, which is outside the bureau's jurisdiction, Couldn't Interpol have Thai police at the airport during the layover??

I suppose it is possible that they decided not to inform the Thai police in order to save having to coordinate.

"Can't be arsed to go through the rigmarole of informing the Thais, if we do we'd have to tell them when this, this and that is going to happen and all of that malarkey. We'll just wing it; I'm sure it'll be fine . . . " etc.

Just as a guess . . .

[lemoncake]

To move from the transit area to land side, at some point one needs to pass through Thai Immigration. There was someone who posted a few months back about being able to miss Immigration completely while on one of those CIQ transits. Maybe the German got lucky and managed to slip through that crack and walk through Domestic arrivals into LOS.

In that case I doubt he will be in Pattaya, the hub of "Hello hansum man." More likely he's down Khaosan Road, the hub of "What flavour passport do you want with that Chang?"

It is NOT uncommon to make a call and have friends fly in with new passport from another country. Eastern Block countries have very cheap passports

BS!

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