webfact Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 RICESurapong eyes Hom Mali rice sale to PhilippinesThe NationBANGKOK: -- Foreign Minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul proposed a direct trade of Thailand's Hom Mali rice with traders in the Philippines.At the Fifth Joint Commission on Bilateral Cooperation (JCBC) in Manila, held for the first time after a 6-year hiatus, he said that this would help Thailand expand the market for the top-quality Thai rice.He expects that Thailand will quote about Bt45 per kg for the rice, against the quotation of Bt60 from Vietnam.Aside from the rice issue, both parties discussed a possible joint disaster study, insurgence in Thailand’s deep South and disputes in the South China Sea.Thailand and the Philippines also signed three bilateral cooperation pacts: (1) double taxation, (2) the energy dialogue creation, and (3) memorandum of understanding for the cooperation between the Thai-Philippine business council and the Philippine-Thai business council.-- The Nation 2013-06-21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Does Vietnam really win bids, quoting B60k/US$1,935 per-tonne, that seems just a trifle above world-prices ? As does FM-Surapong's proposal of US$1451 per-tonne. I thought the current price (admittedly for ordinary rice, not Hom Mali) was nearer US$ 560 per-tonne ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 (edited) Does Vietnam really win bids, quoting B60k/US$1,935 per-tonne, that seems just a trifle above world-prices ? As does FM-Surapong's proposal of US$1451 per-tonne. I thought the current price (admittedly for ordinary rice, not Hom Mali) was nearer US$ 560 per-tonne ? So what the FM claims is likely BS. It seems he is bypassing the Thai traders as well.....nice. They must be well pleased. The Government is now a rice trading company. Edited June 21, 2013 by GentlemanJim 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby nz Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 If you are interested enough to get some facts look at these 2 links : http://www.pinoyrkb.com/main/resources/facts-and-figures http://books.google.com.ph/books/irri?id=stemcfAZ8UwC&printsec=frontcover&dq=&sig=ecPVDrqcBXDMFeFz79tSoCCtkiM&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false The second is a book on Rice in the Philippines and one of the interesting observations in the forward is that the Philippines Govt (which is the sole importer) keeps the price of rice there high, this is said to be a great opportunity for corruption. If that is true then they should get on very well with the Thailand Govt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PoodMaiDai Posted June 21, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2013 Nothing good can come of the Thai and Filipino government working together on anything. The two of them together maxes out the corruption meter. All they would be missing is a Nigeria or Somalia to get into the mix. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapout Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 The Foreign minister is the jack in the box for interviews, as the rest of the government are celabrating birthday or licking wounds from the bashing they received over the past few days. (the exception is our Thai vs Egypt, lady kick box champ) This man is a master at, little, white, and blantent lies, This will be another 'white elephant' type agreement which was boosted of a few weeks ago, along with the innumberable MOU's which seem to have come to little conquence, other than a dislocated shoulder from patting oneself on the back. Just another joker in the stacked/maeked deck that this group uses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waza Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I don't know where Foreign Minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul gets his numbers but Vietnam is selling its fragrant rice for US$475 (14250 baht) per ton, http://oryza.com/# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 On the 20th of June according to Oryza we had "Thailand Hommali 92% 1065-1075" and "Vietnam Jasmine 475-485".The "Bt45 per kg" quoted by the MoFA is 45,000 per (metric) tonne which is more than double the 20,000 the Thai government pledged. The "Bt60 from Vietnam" would be 60,000 per (metric) tonne. In US$, with 30 B = $1, we'd get Thai rice 1,500 versus Vietnamese rice 2,000.May I suggest some reporters to check again with the MoFA? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I don't know where Foreign Minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul gets his numbers but Vietnam is selling its fragrant rice for US$475 (14250 baht) per ton, http://oryza.com/# Ah but in this deal there will be two lots of corruption to deal with! It would be funny if the Phillipines have tried it on and told Surapong they are paying $1900 a ton. Nothing like robbing from robbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dru2 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Does Vietnam really win bids, quoting B60k/US$1,935 per-tonne, that seems just a trifle above world-prices ? As does FM-Surapong's proposal of US$1451 per-tonne. I thought the current price (admittedly for ordinary rice, not Hom Mali) was nearer US$ 560 per-tonne ? The Thai Rice Exporters Association is quoting Thai Hom Mali Rice Grade A at US$1195 per metric tonne this week. That seems to me to work out at US1.195 per kilo, or around 35 Thai Baht. How can this possibly equate with Surapong's 'Bt45 per kg for Thai rice, against the quotation of Bt60 from Vietnam'. The Thai Foreign Minister's statement seems so far off the mark - if I have understood the situation correctly - that it's just risible. Tell me it ain't so, somebody! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 More good news from this enterprising government. Even the FM has shrewed sales negotiating skills and has pulled off another stunning deal. PM was right - too early to say if the rice pledge scam scheme will be profitable or loss making. Expect the next fantastic deal will be to supply a well known Emirate at much higher prices still. Great to see all the government ministers pitching in with hard work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 (edited) The Foreign minister is the jack in the box for interviews, as the rest of the government are celabrating birthday or licking wounds from the bashing they received over the past few days. (the exception is our Thai vs Egypt, lady kick box champ) This man is a master at, little, white, and blantent lies, This will be another 'white elephant' type agreement which was boosted of a few weeks ago, along with the innumberable MOU's which seem to have come to little conquence, other than a dislocated shoulder from patting oneself on the back. Just another joker in the stacked/maeked deck that this group uses. Amazing isn't it. He gets his nose stuck into everything. Isn't it a little precipitous to announce the pricing before the damn deal is done? Edited June 21, 2013 by Thai at Heart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payboy Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 At that price, they better deliver it fried, with side order of wagyu steak and lots of red wine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan michaud Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I suggest some TV readers put their glasses on before digging out their calculators He said Bt45 per kg for the rice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonjelly Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I suggest some TV readers put their glasses on before digging out their calculators He said Bt45 per kg for the rice I thought that odd too….that's roughly what it costs in the shops here, and when one talks of rice trading, surely they'd quote on a price per ton…... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dru2 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I suggest some TV readers put their glasses on before digging out their calculators He said Bt45 per kg for the rice So? The Thai Rice Exporters Association is quoting Thai Hom Mali Rice Grade A at US$1195 per metric tonne this week. That seems to me to work out at US1.195 per kilo, or around 35 Thai Baht. Maybe you need to put your spectacles on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I wonder if the Thai govt has considered putting its rice on Ebay. If they ever decide to use Ebay I'm sure they will only use Buy Now option at a high price...no, no, I take that back...they "might" also use the Bidding option but they'll probably set a ridiculously high reserve price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tominbkk Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Pity It is all all rotten now now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I suggest some TV readers put their glasses on before digging out their calculators He said Bt45 per kg for the rice So? The Thai Rice Exporters Association is quoting Thai Hom Mali Rice Grade A at US$1195 per metric tonne this week. That seems to me to work out at US1.195 per kilo, or around 35 Thai Baht. Maybe you need to put your spectacles on. Exactly! 45 baht per kilo is 45000 baht per metric ton which is $1443 today, which is $250 higher than the market price according to Thai Rice Exporters. Are the filipino traders going to buy that??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby nz Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 But hang on a bit you lot. As I posted earlier the Philippines Govt is the only ones allowed to import rice into that country. They also set the price given to rice farmers and the price rice is sold for. So what the Govt there pays for rice need not bear any relationship to the world price. The main consideration would probably be how much they can scam from the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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