Honda cbr650 2014

[funcat]

Finally found a mud guard for my cbr650f. Tired of having a dirty ass all the time:lol:

It is Phoenix brand 2400 thb. Bought from 320sp shop. They moved to a new place 3 km to my house.

Looks good and strong. No vibration, rattle or movement.

But had to remove the swingarm spools as mudguard does fit with it. They have fabricated another set of holders so no chance. Tried to modify the mudguard with drill but spools are thick. One or another.

Anyway will use the mudguard for only rainy season lets say 3 or 4 months and will put spools back for track days of course.

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Do you know,if they make it for the CBR250 ?

[dave_boo]

Finally found a mud guard for my cbr650f. Tired of having a dirty ass all the time:lol:

It is Phoenix brand 2400 thb. Bought from 320sp shop. They moved to a new place 3 km to my house.

Looks good and strong. No vibration, rattle or movement.

But had to remove the swingarm spools as mudguard does fit with it. They have fabricated another set of holders so no chance. Tried to modify the mudguard with drill but spools are thick. One or another.

Anyway will use the mudguard for only rainy season lets say 3 or 4 months and will put spools back for track days of course.

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I got to agree that the design doesn't work for me either (less is more) but the proof is in the pudding....how well it works.

Little hard to see but is the angled bracket that has Phoenix on it actually resting against the back wall of the swingarm? Assuming that it is, how much room is there between it and say the centre of the swingarm? I would be really interested in it if there is no major issues adapting it to the CB500X.

**edit**

Forgot the 650 has the fancy chain adjustment...perhaps it won't work with rod through the rear of the swingarm style adjusters.

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Edited May 17, 2014 by dave_boo

[mania]

Do you know,if they make it for the CBR250 ?

They make them for many bikes & probably cbr250 for sure

here is a FB page but most shops have them

https://www.facebook.com/PhoenixShop

There are other brands too but Phoenix is about the best quality with others being a bit flimsy or one

sided support. Not too light though as I knew someone in US wanted one.

Went to get it but when I felt the box weight I knew he would not want to pay shipping on that.

Agree with others it is not pretty but for those who ride wet/tour etc

( I dont so do not have/need one ) it does seem to work well

Funny though when you think about it.

Most do a tail tidy as they want the uncluttered look.

Drawback is wet muck flings up on your back

So they have to put something else back on there

One would have to decide which looks better/worse

Stock fender which protects from rain or this

PS: hahah Thai backyard style

Edited May 18, 2014 by mania

[guzzi850m2]

Cool mania (don't worry, I don't think it's your bike).

You can even adjust the distance to the tire, Thai engineering at work.

[ll2]

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Finally found a mud guard for my cbr650f. Tired of having a dirty ass all the time:lol:
It is Phoenix brand 2400 thb. Bought from 320sp shop. They moved to a new place 3 km to my house.
Looks good and strong. No vibration, rattle or movement.
But had to remove the swingarm spools as mudguard does fit with it. They have fabricated another set of holders so no chance. Tried to modify the mudguard with drill but spools are thick. One or another.
Anyway will use the mudguard for only rainy season lets say 3 or 4 months and will put spools back for track days of course.

Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

"Looks good"...well that's subjective.

nomad, sometime function is ahead especially if you need to scratch the remnants of concrete from your helmet and bike coming from metro construction sites!

I don't fancy it either and it is not very light too but needed not only for me but also others on the road during rainy season.

Do you know,if they make it for the CBR250 ?

They make them for many bikes & probably cbr250 for sure
here is a FB page but most shops have them
https://www.facebook.com/PhoenixShop


There are other brands too but Phoenix is about the best quality with others being a bit flimsy or one
sided support. Not too light though as I knew someone in US wanted one.
Went to get it but when I felt the box weight I knew he would not want to pay shipping on that.

Agree with others it is not pretty but for those who ride wet/tour etc
( I dont so do not have/need one ) it does seem to work well

Funny though when you think about it.
Most do a tail tidy as they want the uncluttered look.
Drawback is wet muck flings up on your back
So they have to put something else back on there

One would have to decide which looks better/worse
Stock fender which protects from rain or this


PS: hahah Thai backyard style

mania I rode bikes with tailtidies but cbr650f is throwing unusual amounts of dirt!

Short and thin rear hugger does not help too.

Photo is funny. In Bangkok they use a leafy branch of a tree and attach is to the fender! Especially motorbike taxis

[mania]

mania I rode bikes with tailtidies but cbr650f is throwing unusual amounts of dirt!

Short and thin rear hugger does not help too.

Photo is funny. In Bangkok they use a leafy branch of a tree and attach is to the fender! Especially motorbike taxis:lol:

Yes LL it is true it makes a mess

While I do not ride in rain I have been caught out with some

big puddles a few times & it throws it onto the passenger seat

as I have cleaned up my tail section removing rear plate/fender deal.

But I have a very good hugger & your right it does not stop the water onto rear seat/back area

Only keeps the shock etc clean

[ll2]

Seen some more photos and pillion seat cover looks nice!

2800 thb and ordered one red with black top. Getting it very soon. Hope it mounts bike strong though.

It changes the chubby and makes it sharper a bit.

Edited May 18, 2014 by ll2

[mania]

That seat cowl does make that tail

look even better

Some Thai's are doing some nice epoxy resin & fiberglass work now.

I just bought a very nice hugger for 1900 baht

Edited May 18, 2014 by mania

[funcat]

Do you know,if they make it for the CBR250 ?

They make them for many bikes & probably cbr250 for sure

here is a FB page but most shops have them

https://www.facebook.com/PhoenixShop

There are other brands too but Phoenix is about the best quality with others being a bit flimsy or one

sided support. Not too light though as I knew someone in US wanted one.

Went to get it but when I felt the box weight I knew he would not want to pay shipping on that.

Agree with others it is not pretty but for those who ride wet/tour etc

( I dont so do not have/need one ) it does seem to work well

Funny though when you think about it.

Most do a tail tidy as they want the uncluttered look.

Drawback is wet muck flings up on your back

So they have to put something else back on there

One would have to decide which looks better/worse

Stock fender which protects from rain or this

PS: hahah Thai backyard style

...mania,I'm in CM...so,before I'll call them up,do you know a good place to get it?...of course,I can easy make the 'Thai style' one myself...

[mania]

...mania,I'm in CM...so,before I'll call them up,do you know a good place to get it?...of course,I can easy make the 'Thai style' one myself...

Try these guys funcat

Right over the bridge from the US consulate

Really nice guys & they had Phoenix in stock when I checked for my pal

BNS Speed Shop 089 955 7727

https://www.facebook.com/pages/BNS-speed/266349363497162

[funcat]

...mania,I'm in CM...so,before I'll call them up,do you know a good place to get it?...of course,I can easy make the 'Thai style' one myself...

Try these guys funcat

Right over the bridge from the US consulate

Really nice guys & they had Phoenix in stock when I checked for my pal

BNS Speed Shop 089 955 7727

https://www.facebook.com/pages/BNS-speed/266349363497162

Thanks...

[NomadJoe]

Finally found a mud guard for my cbr650f. Tired of having a dirty ass all the time:lol:

It is Phoenix brand 2400 thb. Bought from 320sp shop. They moved to a new place 3 km to my house.

Looks good and strong. No vibration, rattle or movement.

But had to remove the swingarm spools as mudguard does fit with it. They have fabricated another set of holders so no chance. Tried to modify the mudguard with drill but spools are thick. One or another.

Anyway will use the mudguard for only rainy season lets say 3 or 4 months and will put spools back for track days of course.

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"Looks good"...well that's subjective.

nomad, sometime function is ahead especially if you need to scratch the remnants of concrete from your helmet and bike coming from metro construction sites!

I don't fancy it either and it is not very light too but needed not only for me but also others on the road during rainy season.

If you were interested in function you wouldn't have removed the stock fender.

[ll2]

Finally found a mud guard for my cbr650f. Tired of having a dirty ass all the time:lol:

It is Phoenix brand 2400 thb. Bought from 320sp shop. They moved to a new place 3 km to my house.

Looks good and strong. No vibration, rattle or movement.

But had to remove the swingarm spools as mudguard does fit with it. They have fabricated another set of holders so no chance. Tried to modify the mudguard with drill but spools are thick. One or another.

Anyway will use the mudguard for only rainy season lets say 3 or 4 months and will put spools back for track days of course.

Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

"Looks good"...well that's subjective.

nomad, sometime function is ahead especially if you need to scratch the remnants of concrete from your helmet and bike coming from metro construction sites!

I don't fancy it either and it is not very light too but needed not only for me but also others on the road during rainy season.

If you were interested in function you wouldn't have removed the stock fender.

I m not interested on that much function nomad. That's why removed it.

[CBR250]

I would like to know just how effective the Phoenix is at reducing side spray. My gf doesn't like wet inner thighs (when a passenger on the bike, you pornographically minded readers). The Phoenix looks like it stops spray straight up the back, but what about the side spray toward pillion's legs? Have you carried a pillion? Did it help them stay dry and clean?

PS

I hired a 650f last Saturday. My impressions for anyone who cares - I loved it!! Nimble little bike, partly due to what appears to be a pretty short wheelbase and well sorted frame and weight distribution and decent tyres. So easy to ride you could use it as a scooter around town. Very good brakes, plenty of bite up front, and the rear easily scrubs off speed when a corner leaps up too quickly. Almost enough power - although every bike ever made could always do with just a little more HP.

I was most impressed with the torque. You could drive around in 6th gear nearly all day if you're feeling lazy, as it picks up cleanly from very low revs. Has a subdued 4 cylinder ziiiiiiiing - not much noise. Stubby exhaust is similar to the Kwaka 650 design, so allows for panniers. While not many people will buy it as a tourer, it would do the job comfortably - just add a screen as it gets blowy over 120 kph. A bit heavy on fuel - maybe because it was a hire bike. When I can justify an upgrade to my 500, this bike will do just fine. I envy you guys who have one to jump on whenever the sky and roads are clear.

[ll2]

I would like to know just how effective the Phoenix is at reducing side spray. My gf doesn't like wet inner thighs (when a passenger on the bike, you pornographically minded readers). The Phoenix looks like it stops spray straight up the back, but what about the side spray toward pillion's legs? Have you carried a pillion? Did it help them stay dry and clean?

PS

I hired a 650f last Saturday. My impressions for anyone who cares - I loved it!! Nimble little bike, partly due to what appears to be a pretty short wheelbase and well sorted frame and weight distribution and decent tyres. So easy to ride you could use it as a scooter around town. Very good brakes, plenty of bite up front, and the rear easily scrubs off speed when a corner leaps up too quickly. Almost enough power - although every bike ever made could always do with just a little more HP.

I was most impressed with the torque. You could drive around in 6th gear nearly all day if you're feeling lazy, as it picks up cleanly from very low revs. Has a subdued 4 cylinder ziiiiiiiing - not much noise. Stubby exhaust is similar to the Kwaka 650 design, so allows for panniers. While not many people will buy it as a tourer, it would do the job comfortably - just add a screen as it gets blowy over 120 kph. A bit heavy on fuel - maybe because it was a hire bike. When I can justify an upgrade to my 500, this bike will do just fine. I envy you guys who have one to jump on whenever the sky and roads are clear.

My gf has no problems on cbr500r and as all 500 series share the same rear end, no problems for other 500s as well.

These mudguard are effective but if you worry about wet thighs, get a rear hugger as 500 series don't have one.

Glad you liked cb650f. As you stated, it is surprisingly more nimble than cbr650f somehow! Good bike really.

[NomadJoe]

I would like to know just how effective the Phoenix is at reducing side spray. My gf doesn't like wet inner thighs (when a passenger on the bike, you pornographically minded readers). The Phoenix looks like it stops spray straight up the back, but what about the side spray toward pillion's legs? Have you carried a pillion? Did it help them stay dry and clean?

PS

I hired a 650f last Saturday. My impressions for anyone who cares - I loved it!! Nimble little bike, partly due to what appears to be a pretty short wheelbase and well sorted frame and weight distribution and decent tyres. So easy to ride you could use it as a scooter around town. Very good brakes, plenty of bite up front, and the rear easily scrubs off speed when a corner leaps up too quickly. Almost enough power - although every bike ever made could always do with just a little more HP.

I was most impressed with the torque. You could drive around in 6th gear nearly all day if you're feeling lazy, as it picks up cleanly from very low revs. Has a subdued 4 cylinder ziiiiiiiing - not much noise. Stubby exhaust is similar to the Kwaka 650 design, so allows for panniers. While not many people will buy it as a tourer, it would do the job comfortably - just add a screen as it gets blowy over 120 kph. A bit heavy on fuel - maybe because it was a hire bike. When I can justify an upgrade to my 500, this bike will do just fine. I envy you guys who have one to jump on whenever the sky and roads are clear.

My gf has no problems on cbr500r and as all 500 series share the same rear end, no problems for other 500s as well.

These mudguard are effective but if you worry about wet thighs, get a rear hugger as 500 series don't have one.

Glad you liked cb650f. As you stated, it is surprisingly more nimble than cbr650f somehow! Good bike really.

He didn't say the cb650f is more nimble than the cbr650f, in fact he didn't even say it was a cb650f he rented, we can only assume by the screen comment. Other than the cosmetics and screen the only difference between the cb and the cbr is the handlebar position.

[ll2]

I would like to know just how effective the Phoenix is at reducing side spray. My gf doesn't like wet inner thighs (when a passenger on the bike, you pornographically minded readers). The Phoenix looks like it stops spray straight up the back, but what about the side spray toward pillion's legs? Have you carried a pillion? Did it help them stay dry and clean?

PS

I hired a 650f last Saturday. My impressions for anyone who cares - I loved it!! Nimble little bike, partly due to what appears to be a pretty short wheelbase and well sorted frame and weight distribution and decent tyres. So easy to ride you could use it as a scooter around town. Very good brakes, plenty of bite up front, and the rear easily scrubs off speed when a corner leaps up too quickly. Almost enough power - although every bike ever made could always do with just a little more HP.

I was most impressed with the torque. You could drive around in 6th gear nearly all day if you're feeling lazy, as it picks up cleanly from very low revs. Has a subdued 4 cylinder ziiiiiiiing - not much noise. Stubby exhaust is similar to the Kwaka 650 design, so allows for panniers. While not many people will buy it as a tourer, it would do the job comfortably - just add a screen as it gets blowy over 120 kph. A bit heavy on fuel - maybe because it was a hire bike. When I can justify an upgrade to my 500, this bike will do just fine. I envy you guys who have one to jump on whenever the sky and roads are clear.

My gf has no problems on cbr500r and as all 500 series share the same rear end, no problems for other 500s as well.

These mudguard are effective but if you worry about wet thighs, get a rear hugger as 500 series don't have one.

Glad you liked cb650f. As you stated, it is surprisingly more nimble than cbr650f somehow! Good bike really.

He didn't say the cb650f is more nimble than the cbr650f, in fact he didn't even say it was a cb650f he rented, we can only assume by the screen comment. Other than the cosmetics and screen the only difference between the cb and the cbr is the handlebar position.

i feel like he is talking about cb650f. I might be wrong too but mostlt rental places get cheaper versions first.

and did you ride both bikes Nomad?

as i rode both of them so can comment about them!

The only difference between these bikes are not handlebars and cosmetics. Ergonomics are different plus suspensions on cb650f is tuned softer than cbr650f.

Also, as cb650f is naked and no/less fairing so it also feels lighter too.

Nomad, are you here to contribute or what?

Edited May 20, 2014 by ll2

[papa al]

I would like to know just how effective the Phoenix is at reducing side spray. My gf doesn't like wet inner thighs (when a passenger on the bike, you pornographically minded readers). The Phoenix looks like it stops spray straight up the back, but what about the side spray toward pillion's legs? Have you carried a pillion? Did it help them stay dry and clean?

PS

I hired a 650f last Saturday. My impressions for anyone who cares - I loved it!! Nimble little bike, partly due to what appears to be a pretty short wheelbase and well sorted frame and weight distribution and decent tyres. So easy to ride you could use it as a scooter around town. Very good brakes, plenty of bite up front, and the rear easily scrubs off speed when a corner leaps up too quickly. Almost enough power - although every bike ever made could always do with just a little more HP.

I was most impressed with the torque. You could drive around in 6th gear nearly all day if you're feeling lazy, as it picks up cleanly from very low revs. Has a subdued 4 cylinder ziiiiiiiing - not much noise. Stubby exhaust is similar to the Kwaka 650 design, so allows for panniers. While not many people will buy it as a tourer, it would do the job comfortably - just add a screen as it gets blowy over 120 kph. A bit heavy on fuel - maybe because it was a hire bike. When I can justify an upgrade to my 500, this bike will do just fine. I envy you guys who have one to jump on whenever the sky and roads are clear.

My gf has no problems on cbr500r and as all 500 series share the same rear end, no problems for other 500s as well.

These mudguard are effective but if you worry about wet thighs, get a rear hugger as 500 series don't have one.

Glad you liked cb650f. As you stated, it is surprisingly more nimble than cbr650f somehow! Good bike really.

He didn't say the cb650f is more nimble than the cbr650f, in fact he didn't even say it was a cb650f he rented, we can only assume by the screen comment. Other than the cosmetics and screen the only difference between the cb and the cbr is the handlebar position.

i feel like he is talking about cb650f. I might be wrong too but mostlt rental places get cheaper versions first.

and did you ride both bikes Nomad?

as i rode both of them so can comment about them!

The only difference between these bikes are not handlebars and cosmetics. Ergonomics are different plus suspensions on cb650f is tuned softer than cbr650f.

Also, as cb650f is naked and no/less fairing so it also feels lighter too.

Nomad, are you here to contribute or what?

Nomad is definitely contributing, but I understand that certain individuals such as yourself LL reject critical thinking in favor of self-aggrandisation and ad hominum.

Edited May 20, 2014 by papa al

[ll2]

^^^

and are you nomad's advocate? I think Nomad is just trying to be negative here.

what critical thinking papa al? saying like no difference between cb and cbr650f without even riding them is critical thinking? i think your understanding on critical thinking is sweeping the grounds, aye? and is it a contribution anyway?

and you, with this post of yours above, you think you contributed here now? Where is your critical thinking you are mentioning in your post? You are the guy talking about things that you have no idea and coming telling me here now about ad hominum and and critical thinking? I never exaggerate myself and always state things honestly here. But i think you are the one with ego problems as someone stated that i ride very good and you had a hard feeling about it. Did that hurt you papa al?

But it was not me saying that! I consider and state myself as a humble normal rider all the time. so i hope this sentence cools down your ego a bit.

c'mon man, please change your mindset and come back. Even if you are old, it is never too late to change yourself to become a proper better man

and nothing solid and reasonable to contribute on this thread, just please do not pollute here. You can go to yamaha nuovo scooter thread anytime and post nonsense there.

anyway, back to the topic.

Seen another dyno test of cbr650f but this time from Korat Bigwing.

it shows nearly 75 hp. My dyno test was showing 73 hp and another dyno was showing 78 hp so i think bike loses around 10 hp until power reaches rear wheel.

Wonder how much gain i can get with full system pipe, an aftermarket ecu and air filter? Hope around 15 percent! we live with our hopes

Edited May 20, 2014 by ll2

[yankee99]

Learnt something new today....http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

[ll2]

Learnt something new today....http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

yes, in a bike forum at honda cbr650f thread what a relevance!

[dave_boo]

Nomad is definitely contributing, but I understand that certain individuals such as yourself LL reject critical thinking in favor of self-aggrandisation and ad hominum.

Trying to stay out of a pissing match, I believe that if one is to state that knowledge of both bikes is not pertinent to the current discussion, and LL asking for evidence of experience with both bikes as the rationale of NomadJoe's authority on the subject is a logical fallacy, than it's not an ad hominum (as LL is not attempting a character assassination on NJ), but rather an appeal to accomplishment.

But than again, I could not understand English for beans....

[ll2]

here we go. a cbr650f doing 240 kph indicated at 11.000 rpm on Thai roads and there is 1000 rpm more to redline which means approximately 20 kph more.

Edited May 21, 2014 by ll2

[NomadJoe]

here we go. a cbr650f doing 240 kph indicated at 11.000 rpm on Thai roads and there is 1000 rpm more to redline which means approximately 20 kph more.

Must be in 5th gear. Here he is doing 320.

Edited May 21, 2014 by NomadJoe

[yankee99]

here we go. a cbr650f doing 240 kph indicated at 11.000 rpm on Thai roads and there is 1000 rpm more to redline which means approximately 20 kph more.

Must be in 5th gear. Here he is doing 320.

320 i gotta get one of these rocket ships

[ll2]

here we go. a cbr650f doing 240 kph indicated at 11.000 rpm on Thai roads and there is 1000 rpm more to redline which means approximately 20 kph more.

Must be in 5th gear. Here he is doing 320.

you are fast and mean at times nomad

i will post this at Thai forums with your permission like i installed a turbo charger on my bike

[bramds]

About the mudguard, the Phoenix for the 500 only has one arm to attach it to the bike, not two.

[Nithesh]

here we go. a cbr650f doing 240 kph indicated at 11.000 rpm on Thai roads and there is 1000 rpm more to redline which means approximately 20 kph more.

Here is the video :

Edited May 21, 2014 by Nithesh

[ll2]

still waiting for the pillion seat cover! It looks superb on the bike!

Unfortunately, the guy has no red+black top in stock as he said demand is very good so need to wait a week or two to receive one red+black I am not surprised as it looks well made and good feedback from buyers.

Transforms the rear end really, it looks much more sharper plus looks more like cbr1000r rear end now. I am really happy to make that chubby rear end sharper and more dynamic.

Also, some Thai guys started to mod their bikes to the moon. I attached the photos of sum cb650fs.

Fast this time as all the bike shops and part makers in Thailand was prepared before the release of the bike. What i know, Honda called some major bike shops in Thailand and showed them the bike and possibly gave them some measurements before the release so they can start doing parts. Nice move Honda! It worked well.

Black cb650f looks superb really.

Edited May 22, 2014 by ll2

[mania]

That is a really nice idea

Looks like a seat cover but is still a seat for
the passenger but creates a separation that looks good

+ no cover to fiddle with or come off!

Edited May 22, 2014 by mania