Non immigration visa in Pattaya for 40000 baht

[balo]

A friend of mine visited a Visa office opposite Tukcom in South Pattaya Rd , they have big signs outside offering all sorts of visas.

He asked for a 12 month Visa and was offered a Non immigration visa for 40000 baht , that is good for up to 15 months.

Is this legit ? He is not married to a Thai . The office seems to have a lot of customers.

[lopburi3]

Obtaining any multi entry Thai visa while in Thailand would be totally illegal.

[balo]

Obtaining any multi entry Thai visa while in Thailand would be totally illegal.

I was aware of that so maybe they use some kind of courier service and bring his passport to an outside Thai consulate ?

[lopburi3]

As said that is totally illegal - and a threat for terrorist activity so taken very seriously by international police forces/governments. Do not give your passport to others for any such activity.

[bartender100]

It depends what visa he is on now, if he is on a non0 obtained in his country before he arrived, and now wishes to get an extention to stay, sometimes called a retirement visa, then yes its ok, happens all the time in Pattaya, but the fee is nearer B15,000 than B40,000.

I suggest he tries Express Visa's for more imformation

[balo]

Ok so this Thai visa office that a lot of forerigners are using , and btw they also offer legal services, are doing something very illegal , I will tell him to stay away but it would be interesting to find out why they can offer this.

Its not retirememt but a Non Imm visa for 40k . And he is on a tourist visa now.

[AloisAmrein]

And also much too expensive. A lot cheaper abroad at a Thai consulate. Probably some corruption involved.

[lemoncake]

I believe its for ED visa without having to go to school.

The final result is legal, but getting to it is somewhat not

[jrtmedic]

lemoncake

If the process is illegal so is the end result !

[OJAS]

Its not retirememt but a Non Imm visa for 40k . And he is on a tourist visa now.

And, if it's not marriage either, then what is the alleged visa for? I definitely smell a Roland here.

[sotsira]

Probably someone, somewhere making a lot of money who has access to the right stamps.

[Satcommlee]

It's usually harmless enough until one day some guy in on the scam gets busted! To be honest I would take the 100% legal options.

Maybe they want to sign you up to a language school, or give you a fake non B based on exploration of business.

Either way, there is absolutely no need to pay 30K to stay in Thailand.

[jrtmedic]

These people who avail themselves of these "creative" visas are richer (and braver) than me !

My preference is to pay my 1900 for a 100% legal extension of stay !

[RabC]

There is a legal company whose adds often appear on here who offer all the requisite paperwork to apply for a 12 month multi entry non immigrant B . I did investigate, they would give me all the needed papers and I would have to apply at a consulate in Europe.

[jrtmedic]

RabC

You did not give us the punch line !

What was the asking price for a dodgy "B" visa ?

[cardholder]

These people who avail themselves of these "creative" visas are richer (and braver) than me !

My preference is to pay my 1900 for a 100% legal extension of stay !

... and you fully appreciate that some people are in a financial position to take the 100% legal extension of stay route.

Not saying that I condone it - in fact it makes a mockery of the system.

I do applaud the mods for allowing a potentially 'illegal' discussion to run. I think it is important to know what goes on and what the options are.

[greg71]

As legit as a 300 baht note .

[sotsira]

Obtaining any multi entry Thai visa while in Thailand would be totally illegal.

I was aware of that so maybe they use some kind of courier service and bring his passport to an outside Thai consulate ?

If your friend goes ahead with this, it would be interesting to know which

Thai consulate's name ends up on the visa.

[jrtmedic]

Obtaining any multi entry Thai visa while in Thailand would be totally illegal.

I was aware of that so maybe they use some kind of courier service and bring his passport to an outside Thai consulate ?

If your friend goes ahead with this, it would be interesting to know which

Thai consulate's name ends up on the visa.

And at which border the "exit"/ "entry" was stamped at !

[RabC]

RabC

You did not give us the punch line !

What was the asking price for a dodgy "B" visa ?

I really can't remember the exact figure but 40,00 probably isn't far of the mark. I believe that there are quite a few non married under 50's who may want to avail themselves of this, as there appears no other way at the moment apart from an ed visa. The days of a non-o using a rent agreement or visiting a friend have gone.

[jbrain]

Several years ago, before I was elegible for a retirement visa,often a Thai company would invite me to " advise " them for their export business and my local Thai Emabassy would provide me with pleasure with a one year Non-B multi entry visa by only showing them the invitation letter, where was stated that they would apply for a workpermit IF they decided to employ me, and the registration papers of the company.

Is this door closed since?

[ignis]

Several years ago, before I was elegible for a retirement visa,often a Thai company would invite me to " advise " them for their export business and my local Thai Emabassy would provide me with pleasure with a one year Non-B multi entry visa by only showing them the invitation letter, where was stated that they would apply for a workpermit IF they decided to employ me, and the registration papers of the company.

Is this door closed since?

Another post running last month about that, the member could not find any Embassy/Consulate that would issue more than a single 90 day 'B' Visa....

For the under 50's long term Visa is a problem, if not married to a Thai, divorced, or wife died....... as for the ED option, bit pointless for some as they speak, read, write Thai perfectly. not sure would be an option if people have been here since a child.?

Eg: known a few over the years, not only in Thailand, Parents British, have a child and get a UK passport for child, years later is the problem, of how to stay and still be legal, they have only lived in the one Country... some have never been to the UK in there life, no knowledge or friends there just a Passport.

[umbanda]

With a 40000 bath gift I believe that you may find a nice young Thai woman to get married...and go from there.

[Pattaya46]

... as for the ED option, bit pointless for some as they speak, read, write Thai perfectly.

No pointless at all. ED Visa is not restricted to learning Thai language.

You can learn another foreign language, learn Thai boxing or even learn cooking. Many choices

[OJAS]

Actually I do recall a fairly recent thread originated by a poster who was singing the praises of a courier company he'd used to obtain a non-O visa from a consulate in a neighbouring country (if I recall the details correctly) - which would, of course, be perfectly legal. So, upon reflection, I wonder whether we might, in fact, be talking about a similar situation here. Presumably a Cambodian consulate would be just about feasible within a reasonable timescale from Pattaya?

That said, such consulates are, according to other recent threads, cracking down on issuing multi-entry non-O visas. So with a single-entry visa you'd presumably need to do a run every 90 days at a cost 40,000 THB each time. If you can afford to shell out such large sums of money, then you are presumably unlikely to be unable to meet the financial requirements for retirement or marriage extensions in any event - as other respondents on this thread have pointed out.

And, since the OP's friend is neither married nor retired, I wonder on what grounds he would be eligible for a non-O visa in any event. I strongly suspect that he might only find out that he would not be eligible after his 40,000 THB had been pocketed by the Pattayan outfit.

[lopburi3]

A Thai visa issued by a Consulate while the person is in Thailand is not valid. Believe the post you mean was using a firm to transport passport from another country while the person waited in that other country.

[monty]

Several years ago, before I was elegible for a retirement visa,often a Thai company would invite me to " advise " them for their export business and my local Thai Emabassy would provide me with pleasure with a one year Non-B multi entry visa by only showing them the invitation letter, where was stated that they would apply for a workpermit IF they decided to employ me, and the registration papers of the company.

Is this door closed since?

Definitely still available at the Thai Consulate in Antwerp (out of first hand experience a few months ago).

You need an invitation letter from a Thai company, specifically requesting a multiple entry visa.

You also need a copy of the company papers of the inviting company.

The consulate informed me they will issue this visa only once, they would expect you to manage to aquire a workpermit in the 15 months this visa type allows you.

More info here, in Dutch but google translate can help...

[joepattaya1961]

RabC

You did not give us the punch line !

What was the asking price for a dodgy "B" visa ?

Nothing dodgy about that.

If you would like to obtain a non-immigrant multiple entry one year visa for the purposes of investigating business possibilities, a lawyer or visa-agent will be able to submit the necessary documents.

Problem is, that some or most consulates are no more allowed to submit those multiple entry one year non-B visas. At least, Amsterdam doesn't do it anymore.

[joepattaya1961]

Several years ago, before I was elegible for a retirement visa,often a Thai company would invite me to " advise " them for their export business and my local Thai Emabassy would provide me with pleasure with a one year Non-B multi entry visa by only showing them the invitation letter, where was stated that they would apply for a workpermit IF they decided to employ me, and the registration papers of the company.

Is this door closed since?

Definitely still available at the Thai Consulate in Antwerp (out of first hand experience a few months ago).

You need an invitation letter from a Thai company, specifically requesting a multiple entry visa.

You also need a copy of the company papers of the inviting company.

The consulate informed me they will issue this visa only once, they would expect you to manage to aquire a workpermit in the 15 months this visa type allows you.

More info here, in Dutch but google translate can help...

As said in my previous post....Amsterdam doesn't submit those visa's anymore.

Unstead they gave me an information-sheet on how the proces works and they advised me to start the application of a WP within 7 days after my arrival to Thailand.

[Hoedy Ho]

It depends what visa he is on now, if he is on a non0 obtained in his country before he arrived, and now wishes to get an extention to stay, sometimes called a retirement visa, then yes its ok, happens all the time in Pattaya, but the fee is nearer B15,000 than B40,000.

I suggest he tries Express Visa's for more imformation

15k

Is that for someone who doesn't meet the requirements if they went to immigration by themselves?