Arrest warrants issued over rubber farmers' protest in Nakhon Si Thammarat

[tomross46]

It is good to see that the government is cracking down on anti government demonstrators.These people need to understand that the government knows beat and that they must follow the instructions. If you do not follow instructions, we have ways to reeducate people like you. It is not for you to reason why, it is not for you to make reply, it is for you to do or die. You must understand that the government is here to enrich a few.

Edited August 28, 2013 by tomross46

[15Peter20]

Yes, by the rule of law. We can skip talking about double standard and hypocritical trait of the government for now.

Oh, also skip talking of the aspect that these people comes to ask for what government has promised but failed to deliver.

No need to skip any of that. Just put people who block roads and rail lines inside for a stretch. Is what I said.

Government might do so to enforce the law and to restore order, which is obviously their duty. The problem is not about what they will do, the problem lies on what they ever did. While they insist red shirt has done nothing wrong, even practically by using government money to pay for the bail, how can they at the same time blaming these people's protest?

They can blame the people's protest if the people's protest involves blocking public streets and railway lines. They can quite rightly arrest them for it. Red shirts have been locked up in the past for civil disobedience also. What don't you understand? The concept of the law being applied equally to opposing factions?

[Nickymaster]

Yes, by the rule of law. We can skip talking about double standard and hypocritical trait of the government for now.

Oh, also skip talking of the aspect that these people comes to ask for what government has promised but failed to deliver.

No need to skip any of that. Just put people who block roads and rail lines inside for a stretch. Is what I said.

Government might do so to enforce the law and to restore order, which is obviously their duty. The problem is not about what they will do, the problem lies on what they ever did. While they insist red shirt has done nothing wrong, even practically by using government money to pay for the bail, how can they at the same time blaming these people's protest?

They can blame the people's protest if the people's protest involves blocking public streets and railway lines. They can quite rightly arrest them for it. Red shirts have been locked up in the past for civil disobedience also. What don't you understand? The concept of the law being applied equally to opposing factions?

Which red shirt has been locked up the second day of protesting? They issue an arrest warrent after having had 1 meeting with the farmers. I thought red shirts were locked up after months of creating mayhem, not the first day.

On top of all, these rubber farmers DO have a point. They have been begging for months (since April) for help but the government NEVER even listened to them. Too busy pleasing the rice farmers.

You really don't see the difference? You really don't see that Thaksin is creating a police state? Sending 40,000 police officers to control a rally of 4.000 people as what happened early August. Pure intimidation and scare tactics. Hun Sen will be proud of his eternal friend Thaksin. Open your eyes man.

Edited August 28, 2013 by Nickymaster

[mikemac]

This is just another load of sh*t, doesnt matter what crop the farmers grow, rice, rubber palm oil etc, they are the ones that choose to grow them so if the world market prices drop they are the ones responsible, not the rest of the country. If they dont like what they are being paid then grow something else but holding everyone else to ransom is bullsh*t and should not be tolerated. If farmers dont like it then stop farming but <deleted> stop all the crap with the blockades etc, you are being totally pathetic, doesnt matter who you vote for, you simply dont have the right to hold a country/other people to ransom due to YOUR farming practices. Send in the army and forcefully remove them all.

"Send in the army and forcefully remove them all."....................................

Funny, I said that back in 2010 about a month into the redshirt takeover of Bangkok and was accused of being a bloodthirsty murderer.

[Robby nz]

Unfortunatley all this could turn really nasty.

We have the continuing rallies in BKK on Sunday and the rubber farmers in other parts of the country saying they will start blocking roads on the 3rd Sept.

There are also other groups who will no doubt take the opportunity to appear.

Just what the reds will do throughout all this is another factor as they have shown at the very least disruptive and at the worst violent tendencies in the past.

The rubber farmers wont be as easy to push around (shown this already) as the urban demonstrators.

These are tough rural people used to hard work who will be ready to confront the cops and these cops could be stretched pretty thin if it escalates.

It only needs someone to start shooting and things could turn very bad.

For no matter who started it there would be retaliation in kind.

[Robby nz]

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This is just another load of sh*t, doesnt matter what crop the farmers grow, rice, rubber palm oil etc, they are the ones that choose to grow them so if the world market prices drop they are the ones responsible, not the rest of the country. If they dont like what they are being paid then grow something else but holding everyone else to ransom is bullsh*t and should not be tolerated. If farmers dont like it then stop farming but <deleted> stop all the crap with the blockades etc, you are being totally pathetic, doesnt matter who you vote for, you simply dont have the right to hold a country/other people to ransom due to YOUR farming practices. Send in the army and forcefully remove them all.

Problem is that the by PT enacting the rice support scheme they have given farmers unsustainable expectations.

Now other farmers are saying if they are getting it why shouldn't we?

As for send in the army.... how many deaths would they cause?

And don't forget that Abhisit is being charged with premeditated murder, if the army is sent in and anyone is killed then Yingluck should be liable for the same charges.

[siampolee]

I am somewhat surprised that those vociferous supporters of the P.T.P. and indeed the Red Shirts do seem to be absent in this particular thread. Well, it's hardly surprising is it? The Thai people are slowly being oppressed in many ways by the Thaksin, his family and their brown nosing acolyte while the gullible look on.

One cannot really blame the rubber farmers and note that the taxi drivers are somewhat miffed at the moment concerning their rising costs and falling incomes,yes give money to one section of the community and ignore the rest it isn't going to work.

Now we can fully see just how the police aphid state is working slowly inching along and eating away at democracy nibble by nibble. Oh yes Yingluck, your comments stating that demonstrators should be treated in a sympathetic fashion do indeed have a very hollow ring to them.

Yet again we see the true face of Thaksin, his family and their brown nosing acolytes idea of democracy in action.

Beware though, we are living in ever changing times and there may well be a Thai spring around the corner.

[Pimay1]

The Yingluck administration is now showing its true colors. Even the TV defenders of the faith know this but they are just in too deep to admit it.

[Nickymaster]

I am somewhat surprised that those vociferous supporters of the P.T.P. and indeed the Red Shirts do seem to be absent in this particular thread. Well, it's hardly surprising is it? The Thai people are slowly being oppressed in many ways by the Thaksin, his family and their brown nosing acolyte while the gullible look on.

One cannot really blame the rubber farmers and note that the taxi drivers are somewhat miffed at the moment concerning their rising costs and falling incomes,yes give money to one section of the community and ignore the rest it isn't going to work.

Now we can fully see just how the police aphid state is working slowly inching along and eating away at democracy nibble by nibble. Oh yes Yingluck, your comments stating that demonstrators should be treated in a sympathetic fashion do indeed have a very hollow ring to them.

Yet again we see the true face of Thaksin, his family and their brown nosing acolytes idea of democracy in action.

Beware though, we are living in ever changing times and there may well be a Thai spring around the corner.

Sums it up nicely siampolee.

On a more positive note, creating a police state is not that easy nowadays. Its clearly a desperate attempt from Thaksin. Too many people (and its growing) have access to a lot different kind of info. Oppressing the masses is not easy anymore.

We have to thank bill gates and the geniuses at CERN for this one.

[ThaiOats]

This is one way the PTP has shown that once you let the dogs out, you close the gate. They're now done with people protesting and will make sure that all they can do is bark. Only ones the government have to appease are the herd of bulls grazing in the grass since they're the ones who can bring the house down. However, give the government some time and they will erect brick walls that can withstand even a bull's charge.

[15Peter20]

No need to skip any of that. Just put people who block roads and rail lines inside for a stretch. Is what I said.

Government might do so to enforce the law and to restore order, which is obviously their duty. The problem is not about what they will do, the problem lies on what they ever did. While they insist red shirt has done nothing wrong, even practically by using government money to pay for the bail, how can they at the same time blaming these people's protest?

They can blame the people's protest if the people's protest involves blocking public streets and railway lines. They can quite rightly arrest them for it. Red shirts have been locked up in the past for civil disobedience also. What don't you understand? The concept of the law being applied equally to opposing factions?

Which red shirt has been locked up the second day of protesting? They issue an arrest warrent after having had 1 meeting with the farmers. I thought red shirts were locked up after months of creating mayhem, not the first day.

On top of all, these rubber farmers DO have a point. They have been begging for months (since April) for help but the government NEVER even listened to them. Too busy pleasing the rice farmers.

You really don't see the difference? You really don't see that Thaksin is creating a police state? Sending 40,000 police officers to control a rally of 4.000 people as what happened early August. Pure intimidation and scare tactics. Hun Sen will be proud of his eternal friend Thaksin. Open your eyes man.

If by 'police state' you mean the use of police to effectively apply the law, then I don't really see the problem. I take it you were somewhat disappointed with the inability of the police to do their job properly when the reds started blocking up downtown bangkok 3 years ago, well now we see an application of the police force which is much more effective at doing what it is supposed to do.

[Bluespunk]

"Twenty-five Democrat MPs yesterday held a press conference at Parliament House to dismiss any suggestion that they were behind the angry protests.

"Those who hurl such allegations are shameless and unethical," said Surat Thani MP Suthep Thaugsuban."

Well, yes, but then again so is everyone else in PT.

[Robby nz]

If by 'police state' you mean the use of police to effectively apply the law, then I don't really see the problem. I take it you were somewhat disappointed with the inability of the police to do their job properly when the reds started blocking up downtown bangkok 3 years ago, well now we see an application of the police force which is much more effective at doing what it is supposed to do.

The problem is that the police are doing their job selectively, the reds can do whatever they like including blocking roads, firing missiles at other groups and being as disruptive as they like.

However others will feel the full force that can be applied, including the use of riot police.

If they applied the law fairly to all then there would be no problem, but..........................................

[15Peter20]

If by 'police state' you mean the use of police to effectively apply the law, then I don't really see the problem. I take it you were somewhat disappointed with the inability of the police to do their job properly when the reds started blocking up downtown bangkok 3 years ago, well now we see an application of the police force which is much more effective at doing what it is supposed to do.

The problem is that the police are doing their job selectively, the reds can do whatever they like including blocking roads, firing missiles at other groups and being as disruptive as they like.

However others will feel the full force that can be applied, including the use of riot police.

If they applied the law fairly to all then there would be no problem, but..........................................

Indeed it may be a problem, but it is a problem that has absolutely nothing to do with the subject of this thread, which is about civil disobedience by rubber farmers in the south being punished.

Well over half the posts in this thread are about red shirts. Why? Your comments should be saved for threads involving red shirts causing civil disobedience and evidently not being punished for it. This anti-red shirt agenda by the 20% of posters that are responsible for 80% of posts is just turning the TV news forum into a farce.

[rametindallas]

This is just another load of sh*t, doesnt matter what crop the farmers grow, rice, rubber palm oil etc, they are the ones that choose to grow them so if the world market prices drop they are the ones responsible, not the rest of the country. If they dont like what they are being paid then grow something else but holding everyone else to ransom is bullsh*t and should not be tolerated. If farmers dont like it then stop farming but <deleted> stop all the crap with the blockades etc, you are being totally pathetic, doesnt matter who you vote for, you simply dont have the right to hold a country/other people to ransom due to YOUR farming practices. Send in the army and forcefully remove them all.

So, why are rice farmers singled out to be exempt from the vicissitudes of the market? Every government in the World props up crop prices so the farmers will still be there when the price goes back up. Since every crop takes time to be established and requires special equipment and knowledge, it is very expensive and time consuming to change crops. If every farmer stopped farming every time World market prices collapsed, there would be no more farmers. Farmers choose the crop they will grow based of land suitability and potential for profit. No one can see into the future and know which crop will continue to be profitable. When this government decided to put its entire crop subsidy money on rice alone, they were not thinking about the needs of the agriculture sector but of lining their pockets and getting good publicity in their political strongholds.

Blocking roads has a long tradition in Thailand when you otherwise can't get attention. The Red Shirt mob blocked the best shopping district in Bangkok for months. Were you one of those calling for the Army to forcefully remove them? These rubber farmers are only inconveniencing a relatively small number of other citizens (compared to Ratchaprason) and it is hyperbole to claim they are holding the whole country ransom. I suspect you support this government right or wrong and your sympathies are very selective.

[winstonc]

Unfortunatley all this could turn really nasty.

We have the continuing rallies in BKK on Sunday and the rubber farmers in other parts of the country saying they will start blocking roads on the 3rd Sept.

There are also other groups who will no doubt take the opportunity to appear.

Just what the reds will do throughout all this is another factor as they have shown at the very least disruptive and at the worst violent tendencies in the past.

The rubber farmers wont be as easy to push around (shown this already) as the urban demonstrators.

These are tough rural people used to hard work who will be ready to confront the cops and these cops could be stretched pretty thin if it escalates.

It only needs someone to start shooting and things could turn very bad.

For no matter who started it there would be retaliation in kind.

good point,but i never saw a hardworking rubber farmer..ever...all burmese doing the tapping and sapplings.....a dead person could do that job..go to phang-nga province....mostly greed.. but im cool with being shot down...

[ridkun]

They can blame the people's protest if the people's protest involves blocking public streets and railway lines. They can quite rightly arrest them for it. Red shirts have been locked up in the past for civil disobedience also. What don't you understand? The concept of the law being applied equally to opposing factions?

Which red shirt has been locked up the second day of protesting? They issue an arrest warrent after having had 1 meeting with the farmers. I thought red shirts were locked up after months of creating mayhem, not the first day.

On top of all, these rubber farmers DO have a point. They have been begging for months (since April) for help but the government NEVER even listened to them. Too busy pleasing the rice farmers.

You really don't see the difference? You really don't see that Thaksin is creating a police state? Sending 40,000 police officers to control a rally of 4.000 people as what happened early August. Pure intimidation and scare tactics. Hun Sen will be proud of his eternal friend Thaksin. Open your eyes man.

If by 'police state' you mean the use of police to effectively apply the law, then I don't really see the problem. I take it you were somewhat disappointed with the inability of the police to do their job properly when the reds started blocking up downtown bangkok 3 years ago, well now we see an application of the police force which is much more effective at doing what it is supposed to do.

It's not about the police's performance or ability, it's about will and motive. Police had all the ability, but they just chose not to get involve until everything had been finished. I don't call it effective if police selectively apply the law.

[Pimay1]

These guys can simply tell the police they have other plans and are too busy to report to the police station. Works for the rich and famous.

[GeorgeO]

Are there no red shirts in jail at the moment?

There are far fewer than there should be....

[johnnie20110]

PM's deputy secretary-general Suporn Atthawong claimed his negotiations with rubber farmers' representatives had concluded satisfactorily

It would seem that red shirt leader and PM's Henchman Suporn (AKA Issan Rambo) has got it wrong as the protest continues this afternoon with both the highway and rail line remaining blocked as the rubber farmer's protest goes into its sixth day.

Perhaps time for Rambo to go down there with some of his red shirts and their weapons.

another day added to Rambo's lie:

Rubber protest enters 7th day

BANGKOK, 29 August 2013 (NNT) - Rubber growers continued to hold a rally demanding the government’s solution to the flagging rubber prices for the seventh consecutive day today.

http://61.19.244.31/centerweb/newsen/NewsDetail?NT01_NewsID=WNECO5608290010003