EricBerg Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 The policeman died September 2012. Now is May 2014. Think I missed latest developments. Has the Red Bull guy appeared in court yet? And has he been sentenced? How many years did he get? How old will he be when he served his time? How are the policeman's family doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tullynagardy Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 The policeman died September 2012. Now is May 2014. Think I missed latest developments. Has the Red Bull guy appeared in court yet? And has he been sentenced? How many years did he get? How old will he be when he served his time? How are the policeman's family doing? The "Red Bull Guy" is part of the elite and major funder of the PDRC that you so vehemently support in other threads. Sadly such people are immune to justice in Thailand. Makes you wonder how much worse it would get if these PDRC types succeed in their sinister plan. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prbkk Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 This case will be a good gauge of the intentions of the new regime. It is to be hoped that they will pursue him with vigour and ensure he gets his day in court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 we can only hope that everyone will be treated equally now and this ****** gets his day in court and is no longer given special treatment due to his parentage or bank balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leung Falang Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Does it bother you if the victim family is happy, very happy with the out of court settlement? So...in your opinion, the law of the land should be second place after if someone is feeling happy?! Interesting take! But to answer your question: I couldn't care less! In the USA, there would be two trials, one criminal and one civil. The civil trial could be stopped with an out of court settlement that both parties agreed upon before or during the trial. The criminal side would proceed on its own merits and most of the time would close before the civil trial. It is good the family received a good out of court settlement but this will never replace the loved one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalblue Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 THAILAND! the world is watching you. Not really.....99% of the world gives a rat's ass about Thailand. The only ones who care are US human trafficking office, wildlife NGOs, retirees looking for a cheaper place to live, poor cambodians and burmese looking for slave work, backpackers, Russian convicts and criminals on the run and sexual predators.... Who did I miss? A japanese guy producing babies to sell on the open market and Australian couples looking for wombs to rent? CB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bpuumike Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 THAILAND! the world is watching you. Not really.....99% of the world gives a rat's ass about Thailand. The only ones who care are US human trafficking office, wildlife NGOs, retirees looking for a cheaper place to live, poor cambodians and burmese looking for slave work, backpackers, Russian convicts and criminals on the run and sexual predators.... Who did I miss? A japanese guy producing babies to sell on the open market and Australian couples looking for wombs to rent? CB Sad to say but most of these are valid and current comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3NUMBAS Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 dont expect a philanthropic gesture towards his fellow countrymen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubby Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 .......maybe the police need to form a stronger union, so they might be paid better, and their districts would not be competing fiefdoms, it seems. i suppose in asia, with it's buddhist fatalism, "life" is less respected......etc wikipedia Hit and Run Statutes: Taiwan[edit] Administrative penalties[edit] Article 62 of the Act Governing the Punishment of Violation of Road traffic Regulations proclaimed on 28 December 2005 and effective on 1 July 2006 provides the following administrative penalties: Section 1: Without personal injury and death, hit-and-run drivers of motor vehicles are subject to administrative fines of 1000 to 3000 new Taiwan dollars and suspension of their driver licenses for 1 to 3 months. Section: 4: With minor personal injury, hit-and-run drivers of motor vehicles are subject to revocation of their driver licenses, for 1 year pursuant to Section 3 of Article 67. With serious personal injury or death, hit-and-run drivers of motor vehicles are subject to revocation of their driver licenses, for lifetime pursuant to Section 1 of Article 67, but Article 67-1 allows a possible waiver after serving the revocation for 12 years if the revocation involved personal death, or 10 years if involving serious personal injury. Criminal penalty[edit] With personal injury or death, hit-and-run drivers of motor vehicles are also subject to imprisonment of 6 months to 5 years pursuant to Article 185-4 of the Criminal Code of the Republic of China. Hit and Run, although illegal, is seldom prosecuted on Taiwan. Drunk driving has a much more severe penalty so drunk drivers involved in accidents rarely stop to be tested. Case law[edit] On 13 September 1991 in the Taiwan Area, the Judicial Yuan of the Republic of China in its Interpretation 284 considered that revoking a driver license for vehicular hit and run involving personal injury or death would not violate the Constitution of the Republic of China.[9] On 19 October 2001 in the Taiwan Area, the Judicial Yuan of the Republic of China in its Interpretation 531 further considered that lifetime revocation of a driver license for vehicular hit and run involving personal injury or death would not violate the Constitution of the Republic of China. However, this Interpretation also suggested relevant authorities in charge to reconsider the lifetime revocation and consider reinstatement for rehabilitated drivers.[10] United States[edit] The penalties (and the definition) of hit-and-run vary from state to state in the United States.[11] For example, in Virginia, the crime is a felony if the accident causes death, injury, or damage to attended property in excess of a certain dollar amount; otherwise, it is a misdemeanor.[12] In Texas, the crime is a third degree felony if the accident involves a fatality or serious bodily injury. Accidents causing less serious injuries are punishable by imprisonment in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice for not more than five years or confinement in the county jail for not more than one year and/or a fine not to exceed $5,000. Accidents causing $200 or more in total damages without injuries are punishable by a class B misdemeanor, and accidents causing less than $200 in total damages are a class C misdemeanor.[13] In New York, leaving the "scene of an incident without reporting" it is a traffic infraction, and if personal injury is involved, then it becomes a misdemeanor.[14] There are also significantly higher fines if an animal is injured in the hit and run accident.[15] Canada[edit] Hit and run is defined in Canada as Failure to stop at scene of accident under Section 252 of the Criminal Code of Canada and subject to a penalty of 5 years in prison. For a person to be guilty of hit and run in Canada, the prosecution must prove that the accused was aware of the accident, the accused voluntarily failed to stop and render assistance and the intent for failing to stop was to evade civil or criminal liability. While the prosecution bears the traditional criminal burden of beyond a reasonable doubt, the accused is presumed to have intended to evade civil or criminal liability if the prosecution can prove the other elements of the offence. This reverse onus has been held to be a justified limit under section 1 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. If bodily harm or death is caused in the accident and the prosecution can prove that the accused was aware of the bodily harm or death, the maximum penalties are up to 10 years in prison or up to life imprisonment, respectively. If the accused is also convicted of other offences in relation to the accident (e.g. impaired driving or flight from police) then courts will often make the sentence for hit and run consecutive to the penalties for the other offences, the rationale being that hit and run is often committed with the intent of evading criminal or civil liability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prbkk Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 General Prayuth seems to be ignoring some of the glaring inconsistencies in the application of justice in Thailand. Seems that this guy, like some many before him, is just going to walk free. $97,000 to be allowed to escape justice while the elderly couple found picking mushrooms in a national park got 10 years. Justice Thai style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 General Prayuth seems to be ignoring some of the glaring inconsistencies in the application of justice in Thailand. Seems that this guy, like some many before him, is just going to walk free. $97,000 to be allowed to escape justice while the elderly couple found picking mushrooms in a national park got 10 years. Justice Thai style. What does this case have to do with Prayuth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaffyDuck Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 General Prayuth seems to be ignoring some of the glaring inconsistencies in the application of justice in Thailand. Seems that this guy, like some many before him, is just going to walk free. $97,000 to be allowed to escape justice while the elderly couple found picking mushrooms in a national park got 10 years. Justice Thai style. What does this case have to do with Prayuth? I was about to ask the same question. Is this the Thai equivalent of "Thanks, Obama", from the same sort of people? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Prbkk Posted November 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2014 General Prayuth seems to be ignoring some of the glaring inconsistencies in the application of justice in Thailand. Seems that this guy, like some many before him, is just going to walk free. $97,000 to be allowed to escape justice while the elderly couple found picking mushrooms in a national park got 10 years. Justice Thai style. What does this case have to do with Prayuth? The only connection is symbolic. If Prayuth is serious about dealing with inequality...and he says he is...he would instruct his underlings to deal with this case. As you know, it has caused much angst among Thais , with many feeling that the rich and well connected can get away with anything. Is Prayuth part of the solution to that issue or just another problem? He will never have credibility unless he starts to act without fear or favour. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post whybother Posted November 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2014 General Prayuth seems to be ignoring some of the glaring inconsistencies in the application of justice in Thailand. Seems that this guy, like some many before him, is just going to walk free. $97,000 to be allowed to escape justice while the elderly couple found picking mushrooms in a national park got 10 years. Justice Thai style. What does this case have to do with Prayuth? The only connection is symbolic. If Prayuth is serious about dealing with inequality...and he says he is...he would instruct his underlings to deal with this case. As you know, it has caused much angst among Thais , with many feeling that the rich and well connected can get away with anything. Is Prayuth part of the solution to that issue or just another problem? He will never have credibility unless he starts to act without fear or favour. Do you want Prayuth to re-open ALL cases where there has been some injustice? How far do you want him to go back? The only connection is people trying to link Prayuth to everything that is bad in Thailand. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prbkk Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 General Prayuth seems to be ignoring some of the glaring inconsistencies in the application of justice in Thailand. Seems that this guy, like some many before him, is just going to walk free. $97,000 to be allowed to escape justice while the elderly couple found picking mushrooms in a national park got 10 years. Justice Thai style. What does this case have to do with Prayuth? The only connection is symbolic. If Prayuth is serious about dealing with inequality...and he says he is...he would instruct his underlings to deal with this case. As you know, it has caused much angst among Thais , with many feeling that the rich and well connected can get away with anything. Is Prayuth part of the solution to that issue or just another problem? He will never have credibility unless he starts to act without fear or favour. Do you want Prayuth to re-open ALL cases where there has been some injustice? How far do you want him to go back? The only connection is people trying to link Prayuth to everything that is bad in Thailand. On the contrary, it is an opportunity for him and those around him. Of course he had nothing to do with the case but he could show that rules will apply to all...without fear or favour. I don't suggest trawling back through history but this one case, perhaps above all others, still causes great resentment. He should deal with it and would benefit from doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 General Prayuth seems to be ignoring some of the glaring inconsistencies in the application of justice in Thailand. Seems that this guy, like some many before him, is just going to walk free. $97,000 to be allowed to escape justice while the elderly couple found picking mushrooms in a national park got 10 years. Justice Thai style. What does this case have to do with Prayuth? Easy enough answer, he's the only one who has the authority to ensure that crimes involving social status are treated no differently from anyone else commuting crime. If he stated there would be equality amongst all Thais, he has to " put his money where his mouth is" and make sure social status when it comes to crime and criminal acts are indeed a thing of the past. In a country well known for its class and social status, do you honestly think that money doesn't talk and <deleted> walk in this country? The day you will see any Of the powerful hi-So's behind bars getting their back doors kicked in by the Thai equivalent of bubba is the day the Thai authorities announce they have successfully landed on the moon but came back but have no proof as it was too dark to see ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 General Prayuth seems to be ignoring some of the glaring inconsistencies in the application of justice in Thailand. Seems that this guy, like some many before him, is just going to walk free. $97,000 to be allowed to escape justice while the elderly couple found picking mushrooms in a national park got 10 years. Justice Thai style. What does this case have to do with Prayuth? Easy enough answer, he's the only one who has the authority to ensure that crimes involving social status are treated no differently from anyone else commuting crime. If he stated there would be equality amongst all Thais, he has to " put his money where his mouth is" and make sure social status when it comes to crime and criminal acts are indeed a thing of the past. In a country well known for its class and social status, do you honestly think that money doesn't talk and <deleted> walk in this country? The day you will see any Of the powerful hi-So's behind bars getting their back doors kicked in by the Thai equivalent of bubba is the day the Thai authorities announce they have successfully landed on the moon but came back but have no proof as it was too dark to see ? And I agree with that sentiment, but how many cases do you want him to reopen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 On the contrary, it is an opportunity for him and those around him. Of course he had nothing to do with the case but he could show that rules will apply to all...without fear or favour. I don't suggest trawling back through history but this one case, perhaps above all others, still causes great resentment. He should deal with it and would benefit from doing so. And what about the girl that ran into the bus on the motorway? What about the one that drove with the body stuck in the windscreen? What about all the ones that haven't been big in the English press? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 If someone thinks that there's an effort to end corruption including favoring the well connected going on, he's no good at reading between the lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 General Prayuth seems to be ignoring some of the glaring inconsistencies in the application of justice in Thailand. Seems that this guy, like some many before him, is just going to walk free. $97,000 to be allowed to escape justice while the elderly couple found picking mushrooms in a national park got 10 years. Justice Thai style. What does this case have to do with Prayuth? Easy enough answer, he's the only one who has the authority to ensure that crimes involving social status are treated no differently from anyone else commuting crime.If he stated there would be equality amongst all Thais, he has to " put his money where his mouth is" and make sure social status when it comes to crime and criminal acts are indeed a thing of the past. In a country well known for its class and social status, do you honestly think that money doesn't talk and <deleted> walk in this country? The day you will see any Of the powerful hi-So's behind bars getting their back doors kicked in by the Thai equivalent of bubba is the day the Thai authorities announce they have successfully landed on the moon but came back but have no proof as it was too dark to see ? And I agree with that sentiment, but how many cases do you want him to reopen? That sir, is a very good question, and perhaps one of the reason the whole Judicial system needs reforming too, urgently!! Given that there's some high profile cases about to start I'd like to see the assets of ALL Thai judiciary personnel presented to NACC . If you have corrupt cops, rest assured you have corrupt judges !! I would haphazard a guess and day that any cases needing reopened would need to come from the OAG ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lildragon Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 (edited) General Prayuth seems to be ignoring some of the glaring inconsistencies in the application of justice in Thailand. Seems that this guy, like some many before him, is just going to walk free. $97,000 to be allowed to escape justice while the elderly couple found picking mushrooms in a national park got 10 years. Justice Thai style. What does this case have to do with Prayuth? The only connection is symbolic. If Prayuth is serious about dealing with inequality...and he says he is...he would instruct his underlings to deal with this case. As you know, it has caused much angst among Thais , with many feeling that the rich and well connected can get away with anything. Is Prayuth part of the solution to that issue or just another problem? He will never have credibility unless he starts to act without fear or favour. This incident happened during Yingluck's government. Little rich brat doesn't get sent to jail. Now during Prayuth's 'clean up' he still walks free. What a statement it would of made if he got him extradited and put in jail. But of course this won't happen, his family holds too much clout. So much for the clean up eh? Dodgy cops and poor people encroaching on land JAIL! Ohh but elites murdering people, nah that's still fair game. Edited November 30, 2014 by lildragon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertthebruce Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Terrible, i dont know how that guy can walk about with a clear mind..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrya Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 What makes this thing even more tragic, that poor people admire these assh.....s. They love their white colour, their wealth, demeanor, look etc. The poor won't stand up against them because there wouldn't be more soap operas on the life of these tw..s. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lildragon Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Also does this heir have any siblings? If he is the sole heir that means he will be running Redbull one day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaffyDuck Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 General Prayuth seems to be ignoring some of the glaring inconsistencies in the application of justice in Thailand. Seems that this guy, like some many before him, is just going to walk free. $97,000 to be allowed to escape justice while the elderly couple found picking mushrooms in a national park got 10 years. Justice Thai style. What does this case have to do with Prayuth? The only connection is symbolic. If Prayuth is serious about dealing with inequality...and he says he is...he would instruct his underlings to deal with this case. As you know, it has caused much angst among Thais , with many feeling that the rich and well connected can get away with anything. Is Prayuth part of the solution to that issue or just another problem? He will never have credibility unless he starts to act without fear or favour. He seems to be doing plenty of that already - with limited resources, he goes after specific cases first. Same reason why not all beaches get cleaned up all at the same time, and why not all criminals get caught at the same time. What he does so far, is both significant and relevant. Downplaying what good *is* being done, because your favorite pet cases aren't being addressed is disingenuous at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaffyDuck Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 On the contrary, it is an opportunity for him and those around him. Of course he had nothing to do with the case but he could show that rules will apply to all...without fear or favour. I don't suggest trawling back through history but this one case, perhaps above all others, still causes great resentment. He should deal with it and would benefit from doing so. ... and of course if he were to do this, you would complain and accuse him of warming up and wasting resources on old cases, when he should be focusing on new cases, or other pet cases. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NeilSA1 Posted November 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2014 General Prayuth seems to be ignoring some of the glaring inconsistencies in the application of justice in Thailand. Seems that this guy, like some many before him, is just going to walk free. $97,000 to be allowed to escape justice while the elderly couple found picking mushrooms in a national park got 10 years. Justice Thai style. Amazing. This incident happened in September 2012 when the country was under the reign of the PTP. I imagine you voiced your opinion at the time - but did you single out Yingluck specifically? If not, why not? People are agitating for the present government to step down as soon as possible, yet it is also expected that the present government has to take responsibility, and remedial action for all past wrongs and injustices of the previous governments. Get real. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 General Prayuth seems to be ignoring some of the glaring inconsistencies in the application of justice in Thailand. Seems that this guy, like some many before him, is just going to walk free. $97,000 to be allowed to escape justice while the elderly couple found picking mushrooms in a national park got 10 years. Justice Thai style. What does this case have to do with Prayuth? The only connection is symbolic. If Prayuth is serious about dealing with inequality...and he says he is...he would instruct his underlings to deal with this case. As you know, it has caused much angst among Thais , with many feeling that the rich and well connected can get away with anything. Is Prayuth part of the solution to that issue or just another problem? He will never have credibility unless he starts to act without fear or favour. This incident happened during Yingluck's government. Little rich brat doesn't get sent to jail. Now during Prayuth's 'clean up' he still walks free. What a statement it would of made if he got him extradited and put in jail. But of course this won't happen, his family holds too much clout. So much for the clean up eh? Dodgy cops and poor people encroaching on land JAIL! Ohh but elites murdering people, nah that's still fair game. How many cases do you want Prayuth to reopen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Prbkk Posted November 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2014 General Prayuth seems to be ignoring some of the glaring inconsistencies in the application of justice in Thailand. Seems that this guy, like some many before him, is just going to walk free. $97,000 to be allowed to escape justice while the elderly couple found picking mushrooms in a national park got 10 years. Justice Thai style.Amazing. This incident happened in September 2012 when the country was under the reign of the PTP. I imagine you voiced your opinion at the time - but did you single out Yingluck specifically? If not, why not? People are agitating for the present government to step down as soon as possible, yet it is also expected that the present government has to take responsibility, and remedial action for all past wrongs and injustices of the previous governments. Get real. Amazing. Blunder in but don't bother reading any of the thread. The whole point is that the current govt IS taking action over events in the past. This case presents an opportunity for them to show that they are even-handed. However I suspect the concept of balance is alien to you. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 As many as necessary to clean up all the outstanding cases, especially those who have paid their way to have their crimes "forgotten" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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