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HardenedSoul said "The ones who are protesting are doing so in order to assuage misplaced guilt they may feel about hooking up with a young Thai woman from a poor background who, 9 times out of 10, will be driven by financial imperatives."

3. There is a huge disparity between what some people post in Thaivisa and what is hard reality: that is the nature of an anonymous forum, I suppose. I know of at least one prominent TV member who has frequently advocated not spending on a thai girl or her family (maybe HS was thinking of the same person when he posted, I don't know), but that same person picked up a young, attractive and not particularly intelligent thai girl far, far younger than himself, and that girl received at the very least a car from the advocate of not spending on Thais........ wacko.png

Can't say I had anyone in mind when posting what you've quoted but, it would be interesting and illuminating to know which member had advised against spending on Thai girls/their families and then gone out and done the exact opposite.

I would change what the OP wrote and suggest that IF you have found the right person, and have taken the time to make sure, there is nothing wrong with investing some of your time, your life and your finances in your new-found family.

I've always found it highly amusing when guys come over and pick up a Thai woman, her kids and her extended family like a flat packed, easy-assembly, family-in-a-box like they're at Ikea.

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HardenedSoul said "The ones who are protesting are doing so in order to assuage misplaced guilt they may feel about hooking up with a young Thai woman from a poor background who, 9 times out of 10, will be driven by financial imperatives."

3. There is a huge disparity between what some people post in Thaivisa and what is hard reality: that is the nature of an anonymous forum, I suppose. I know of at least one prominent TV member who has frequently advocated not spending on a thai girl or her family (maybe HS was thinking of the same person when he posted, I don't know), but that same person picked up a young, attractive and not particularly intelligent thai girl far, far younger than himself, and that girl received at the very least a car from the advocate of not spending on Thais........ Posted Image

Can't say I had anyone in mind when posting what you've quoted but, it would be interesting and illuminating to know which member had advised against spending on Thai girls/their families and then gone out and done the exact opposite.

I would change what the OP wrote and suggest that IF you have found the right person, and have taken the time to make sure, there is nothing wrong with investing some of your time, your life and your finances in your new-found family.

I've always found it highly amusing when guys come over and pick up a Thai woman, her kids and her extended family like a flat packed, easy-assembly, family-in-a-box like they're at Ikea.

Add..Without knowing the language, without knowing anything about Thailand , without understanding the culture, the law..etc.., attitudes towards foreigners....etc..

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I've always found it highly amusing when guys come over and pick up a Thai woman, her kids and her extended family like a flat packed, easy-assembly, family-in-a-box like they're at Ikea.

When you get to a certain age, you'll find that the women you're dating are often divorcees with young children.

But that's okay since you too will have kids.

Why does this amuse you?

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Well in my experience only desperate girls marry old men, most women like fit men, they like muscles, and flat bellies -specially in this part of the globe-, I've had lovers married to olders men(thai,japanese and westerners) and they do it just for money or a passport, but in the end they use the money of the old guys to expend it with somebody that they really like(in this case , me). In rca I've had many girls from isaan and the north that are this situation, and after two or three days getting in her beds they start to open they hearts and let all the frustraition go out, no wonder they fall in love so easilly, it must be horrible to get in bed with somene that you don't like.20x20xsad.png.pagespeed.ic.7cckm4BQla.we

Not necessarily, you go to bed with yourself every night.

hehehehe yes those young hot girls love those young hot guys that's why a lot of young hot guys in Thailand wind up getting the shaft just like the old guys.

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Something an older man can provide!... In Asia an old man with a young woman has been perfectly acceptable for centuries,and doesn't raise an eyebrow in the slightest,and the objections have all come from the west,who think that it's indecent to have the old and young married or cohabiting, with never a thought of asking their opinion!

In spite of some of the Young Guys that convince themselves that: Youth,looks and a decent pair of Biceps is all you need,I suspect most women (given the choice) will choose security,over a poverty stricken lifestyle (especially in realistic Asia),with the young dreamers every time,and who can blame them! there are so many deluded young Bucks around.

You make it sound like it's only older men that can "provide".

There are hordes of younger men here, in Thailand, right NOW earning fantastically well. I know at least 20 of them.

The older men on here seem to be utterly convinced that wealth can only be acquired once you're old enough for your prostate to start playing up and you've one foot in the grave.

That's <deleted> and you know it

Let me just say - I am not young any longer so this is not a self-serving argument. I will feel exactly the same if and when I reach 60 or 70.

A young man with wedge will always, ALWAYS have infinitely more options with young women than his geriatric counterpart . . . unless, of course, that counterpart is particularly famous or blessed with billions.

I realise that some of you older guys really want to believe that your value to a woman 20-30 years your junior can extend beyond the contents of your wallet. I freely concede that, in some cases, it can and DOES but you're deluding yourselves thinking that any young Thai woman, given the opportunity to select a mate from a pool of relatively wealthy pensioners and relatively wealthy 28 - 45yr olds, would go for the old boys.

Note that I am outside that age group so, I repeat, this is not a self serving argument; I'm just telling it like it is.

May not be self serving comments,but methinks you protest too much!

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HardenedSoul said "The ones who are protesting are doing so in order to assuage misplaced guilt they may feel about hooking up with a young Thai woman from a poor background who, 9 times out of 10, will be driven by financial imperatives."

3. There is a huge disparity between what some people post in Thaivisa and what is hard reality: that is the nature of an anonymous forum, I suppose. I know of at least one prominent TV member who has frequently advocated not spending on a thai girl or her family (maybe HS was thinking of the same person when he posted, I don't know), but that same person picked up a young, attractive and not particularly intelligent thai girl far, far younger than himself, and that girl received at the very least a car from the advocate of not spending on Thais........ wacko.png

Can't say I had anyone in mind when posting what you've quoted but, it would be interesting and illuminating to know which member had advised against spending on Thai girls/their families and then gone out and done the exact opposite.

I would change what the OP wrote and suggest that IF you have found the right person, and have taken the time to make sure, there is nothing wrong with investing some of your time, your life and your finances in your new-found family.

I've always found it highly amusing when guys come over and pick up a Thai woman, her kids and her extended family like a flat packed, easy-assembly, family-in-a-box like they're at Ikea.

On the first part, I'm sure you would like to know............but if you can't put the pieces together, I'm not doing it for you.

On the second, I'd agree. As an aside, I'm glad that someone finds Ikea stuff easy to assemble....... Frequently have seen square pegs in round holes and everything falls apart, or not enough glue to hold it together, which comes down to investing time....time to research, to check, to prepare properly. Same same with choosing a thai (or for that matter ANY) partner.

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Sometimes the older guy is INSECURE about his body, and uses money to offset that insecurity.

Sometimes the older guy is insecure about his intelligence, and uses money...

Sometimes the older guy is insecure about his life, and wants to re-live it with a younger girl.

Sometimes the older guy uses money on the insecurity of the girl.

and sometimes none of the above is true.

So it's case-by-case. Of course it can work.

I do think if the guy is 30-lbs overweight and can't find Thailand on a map.......well, the 25-year old girl will watch her internet shows and dream of the younger guy with the 6-pack.

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heheheh a few of the post here make me laff, I was married for 15 years 2 kids and when me and the ex broke up she told me I do not think I ever loved you. So stop thinking western women are so much better than Thai ladies, there just different.

Any way what about a younger farang that has fallen for an older Thai lady how does that one work. Is that love or something else.

My Thai girlfriend as me for money I just ask her how much I know this is part of the deal, love that can change on a dime here today gone to morrow.

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young guys....old girls or whatever.....

everyone whether man or woman is looking for the bigger and better deal.....

I know I am and deep down so is everyone else!

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heheheh a few of the post here make me laff, I was married for 15 years 2 kids and when me and the ex broke up she told me I do not think I ever loved you. So stop thinking western women are so much better than Thai ladies, there just different.

Any way what about a younger farang that has fallen for an older Thai lady how does that one work. Is that love or something else.

My Thai girlfriend as me for money I just ask her how much I know this is part of the deal, love that can change on a dime here today gone to morrow.

I was married for 15 years 2 kids and when me and the ex broke up she told me I do not think I ever loved you.

My Ex UK wife said: "You was a good provider" In my book that equates about the same as yours! perhaps she was upset that I divorced her first.?

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I've always found it highly amusing when guys come over and pick up a Thai woman, her kids and her extended family like a flat packed, easy-assembly, family-in-a-box like they're at Ikea.

When you get to a certain age, you'll find that the women you're dating are often divorcees with young children.

But that's okay since you too will have kids.

Why does this amuse you?

If both parties were a similar age, you'd be right.

The older guys who rock up here might have kids but they're often grown up and self-sufficient.

On the other hand, his new wife often has young children who require clothing, schooling etc. you know - the stuff he'll be expected to pick up the tab for.

I'm amused because more often than not, the man is effectively committing to raising his new wife's kids and financially supporting an extended family just so he can get his leg over with a younger woman on a regular basis.

Some even buy a house and put it in the wife's name, <deleted> laugh.png

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HardenedSoul said "The ones who are protesting are doing so in order to assuage misplaced guilt they may feel about hooking up with a young Thai woman from a poor background who, 9 times out of 10, will be driven by financial imperatives."

3. There is a huge disparity between what some people post in Thaivisa and what is hard reality: that is the nature of an anonymous forum, I suppose. I know of at least one prominent TV member who has frequently advocated not spending on a thai girl or her family (maybe HS was thinking of the same person when he posted, I don't know), but that same person picked up a young, attractive and not particularly intelligent thai girl far, far younger than himself, and that girl received at the very least a car from the advocate of not spending on Thais........ wacko.png

Can't say I had anyone in mind when posting what you've quoted but, it would be interesting and illuminating to know which member had advised against spending on Thai girls/their families and then gone out and done the exact opposite.

Well if its the member I think it is then he has leaped up the wrong tree and found himself some poor fruit. Best to make sure you know all of the facts before jumping to conclusions.....

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Once a woman has children she will never love anyone the way she loves her children and her views toward romance, marriage and whimsical love will change. I believe that these women can indeed love their older farang husbands - it is just not fairy tale love. It is a form of adult love born out of the security provided.

What I have written above however is much different from the all women are whores and care only about security/money which seems to always pervade this topic of discussion.

Whenever this topic comes up, it is very obvious that many of these older men in Thailand whom participate in these topics are struggling with aging and their masculinity. They want everyone to know that they are just as strong and desired and as alpha today as they were in 1975. It is a bit funny as you kind of get the idea they are still 55 year old boys who never grew up (Hemingway talks about this in his books a bit).

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On the other hand, his new wife often has young children who require clothing, schooling etc. you know - the stuff he'll be expected to pick up the tab for.

I'm amused because more often than not, the man is effectively committing to raising his new wife's kids and financially supporting an extended family just so he can get his leg over with a younger woman on a regular basis.

Have you considered that some older farang men might actually like their Thai partner's children? I don't know why you would look down on someone for attempting to take care of children who have been abandoned by another man. And if all the older man was only concerned about was sex, then why would he choose to do all of this? I think you are being harsh and mean.

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On the other hand, his new wife often has young children who require clothing, schooling etc. you know - the stuff he'll be expected to pick up the tab for.

I'm amused because more often than not, the man is effectively committing to raising his new wife's kids and financially supporting an extended family just so he can get his leg over with a younger woman on a regular basis.

Have you considered that some older farang men might actually like their Thai partner's children? I don't know why you would look down on someone for attempting to take care of children who have been abandoned by another man. And if all the older man was only concerned about was sex, then why would he choose to do all of this? I think you are being harsh and mean.

I most certainly do not look down on all guys who do that.

I do however, find those who hook up with bargirl types, take on their kids, parents, siblings and livestock to be particularly amusing.

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Well in my experience only desperate girls marry old men, most women like fit men, they like muscles, and flat bellies -specially in this part of the globe-, I've had lovers married to olders men(thai,japanese and westerners) and they do it just for money or a passport, but in the end they use the money of the old guys to expend it with somebody that they really like(in this case , me). In rca I've had many girls from isaan and the north that are this situation, and after two or three days getting in her beds they start to open they hearts and let all the frustraition go out, no wonder they fall in love so easilly, it must be horrible to get in bed with somene that you don't like.20x20xsad.png.pagespeed.ic.5zxzyGiJz0.pn

Not necessarily, you go to bed with yourself every night.

hehehehe yes those young hot girls love those young hot guys that's why a lot of young hot guys in Thailand wind up getting the shaft just like the old guys.

It might be, but in the most of cases we don't marry to someone that expects to obtaing money from us in exchange for sex and the fake lov, those girl, pay our tuition, our partytime even our clothing with your money :)

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heheheh a few of the post here make me laff, I was married for 15 years 2 kids and when me and the ex broke up she told me I do not think I ever loved you. So stop thinking western women are so much better than Thai ladies, there just different.

Any way what about a younger farang that has fallen for an older Thai lady how does that one work. Is that love or something else.

My Thai girlfriend as me for money I just ask her how much I know this is part of the deal, love that can change on a dime here today gone to morrow.

I was married for 15 years 2 kids and when me and the ex broke up she told me I do not think I ever loved you.

My Ex UK wife said: "You was a good provider" In my book that equates about the same as yours! perhaps she was upset that I divorced her first.?

Same for me, mine said she didn't love me for the past 20 years, she also said I had been a good provider.

These English girls, all the bloody same. I expect it was because I was two years older than her.

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When you see an older guy with a much younger girl, you know he sliding down a slippery slope.

Let me ask you this, regardless of culture or religion, have you ever known a woman marry and stay married to a broke man, regardless of how nice or good looking he was. NO.

Yet a woman will put up with a older rich guy at least for a little while.

Women love money, men love sex. Its just a balancing act, get it right and you have a long and happy marriage.

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When you see an older guy with a much younger girl, you know he sliding down a slippery slope.

Let me ask you this, regardless of culture or religion, have you ever known a woman marry and stay married to a broke man, regardless of how nice or good looking he was. NO.

Yet a woman will put up with a older rich guy at least for a little while.

Women love money, men love sex. Its just a balancing act, get it right and you have a long and happy marriage.

its not just women who love money,, why do you think i work away from my home for 6 months of the year,,??

funny i love sex too

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When you see an older guy with a much younger girl, you know he sliding down a slippery slope.

Let me ask you this, regardless of culture or religion, have you ever known a woman marry and stay married to a broke man, regardless of how nice or good looking he was. NO.

Yet a woman will put up with a older rich guy at least for a little while.

Women love money, men love sex. Its just a balancing act, get it right and you have a long and happy marriage.

its not just women who love money,, why do you think i work away from my home for 6 months of the year,,??

funny i love sex too

Who doesn't ?

Which do you prefer sex or money, which do you like most.

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excacty,

thats what we all know, we all love money,, ive done some shity jobs to get money, long hours, away from my family, half way round the world,

but say that a thai girl wants money, and she is everything from a pig to a dog, we all would like to improve our lives,

jake

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I agree with you Richard, which is why I referred to the lack of Familial memory by the part of Westerners. It was an attempt to point out that even as recently as our Grandparents, the same Familial dynamic was a driver in the West.

Then people turn up here all judgmental about Thai society, and the truth of the matter is, their Great Grandmothers would recognize the situation young women still find themselves in here.

To eat, or not to eat, that is the question.

Yes Blether, I agree with Richard too, my wife is twenty years younger than me, and I know she loves me, we have been together for eight years, but only got married two years ago. I bought the house car, furniture and land etc. If she did not love me, she would never had married me after five years when I cannot afford now to buy any more expensive cars etc.

But, I have to say that 99.9% of the time, when you see a repulsive looking man with an attractive young girl about thirty or forty years younger than him, there is no love involved at all where the girl is concerned.

hmmmmmm, 20 years older than your wife. Could you love some old wrinkly woman 20 years older than you ? and dont forget thais think we farangs look old for our age, so you look 25/30 years older than your wife. ouch!

My mother when she remarried at 47, married a man 21 years younger. They were still together when my mother died at 74.

I read this a long time ago. A man was asked about why marriages that a arranged worked. The reply was "The difference is the same as how you make tea. In the west you boil the water and then add the tea. In the East you add the tea and then bring to a boil"

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Let me ask you this, regardless of culture or religion, have you ever known a woman marry and stay married to a broke man

What planet are you living on?

yeah...I'd like to know where he was broke first before I answer...

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Let me ask you this, regardless of culture or religion, have you ever known a woman marry and stay married to a broke man

What planet are you living on?

I know many women that have married to broken men ,stayed married , have bore him childrens, payed for everything the guy needed and even consented him to hav lovers and not only here in Thailand, but in Japan, Spain, US,Costarica, and Itally if you don't know some guys like this this that proves once more the huge lack of culture, and history of many of the members of this forum :)

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'Trophy Wives' - The male of the species is, by evolution, is hardwired for it. Been going on since the dawn of time. Yin and Yang - Etc., Ad Infinitum.

Love? Or just Gold digging? Here is another old saying for you Blether. Women give sex for love. Men give love for sex

The wise say we should not be cynical about Love. But true, unconditional love is extremely elusive, if not, rare. And then there many who would confuse elusive with illusive.

I have a few acquaintances back in Aust who still refer to, and introduce their younger spouses quite openly in social environments, as their 'Child Bride'. Male ego insecurity?

Thailand, plus all the other developing and 3rd world countries provide a resource for 'Trophy Wives' to those, non rich and rather average men, who otherwise would not be able to afford the same where they come from. Under normal circumstances young, hard bodied, attractive females do not, as a rule, marry fat, bald, unfit, middle aged, POOR men who cannot provide for them..

You can go back through history to the dawn of time and find many examples of 'Trophy Wives', but here a few recent ones.

So do you have love? Or a Trophy?

What about starting a topic on 'Cougars'.

http://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/2013/05/what-if-men-stopped-chasing-much-younger-women/275916/

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So tell me, what do these men you quote have in common? is it their personality and good looks? or is it something more basic like the size of their bank account

What twaddle, as an example NANCY MCCARTNEY is wealthy in her own right, what some of them have is charisma + men hold their looks MUCH longer than women.

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Interesting topic. I hope all these positives about may-december relationships is true. Funny how the western women I know become most angry when they see the older men with a younger foreign women. Quite angry at times...

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