I live in Bangkok. Have moved to several places in the years yet remained in Bangkok. I'm sure doing the same google search that I suggested on Pattaya on Bangkok or any other vacation destination in the world reveal just the same. I'm simply stating my observations on and about the many Pattaya headlines that pass through this forum as well as the types of crimes against tourists of all nationalities. Falling from balconies/or being pushed, drugging/thefts by escorts, criminals on motorbikes seem to top the list in Pattaya. It seems that almost everyday there is a headline article involving a tourist death in Pattaya.

What Pattaya?! No never, I can't believe anything of the such would happen in that up-scale vacation hotspot.

Ok now 2 teens hardly make a "gang" unless of course it was found that they were acting or connected with a larger group hitting various parts of the city.

No doubt that there may have been an exchange of words before this happened. Typical thainess and saving face.

Regardless, from my experience and observations of Thai culture and laws, the man deserved it. Look at what he was doing!!! He was crossing the street. That certainly warrants a minimal sentence of a public beating but not yet that severe of a sword stabbing death from not paying 51b taxi fare or being stabbed to death for not stopping your singing in a karaoke bar. As a tourist you should know better that you are not allowed to cross the street, sing in a karaoke bar or STEAL 51b with the intent to deprive the worst of all.

On a more serious note, as I've said in all my posts regarding Pattaya, it truly is a cesspool. Perhaps at one point in time it may have been a dream vacation getaway hotspot but times have changed. Simply google these 3 words "tourist death thailand" or narrow it down to Pattaya. With using Thailand I got over 10,200,000 results; with Pattaya I got 719,000.

Very scary and sad

Unless you live on your own little island nobody is immune and free of victimization of a crime. We all know this yet still make the choices we do to live the lives we want bearing in mind the risks involved and what we are willing to deal with in the worst case. Sure I could move to Chiang Mai or maybe some hillside tribe to lesson my odds of being a victim but Id rather live short and die happy than live long and be miserable.

so, typical of many of those who frequent this forum you don't actually live here, probably never even been here, yet you still feel you are qualified to criticize Pattaya and its residents at every opportunity based on sensationalized and poor reporting sourced from the local rags

Ok i get it now

i am BLaCkMan and i have spoken on this day

I've been to Pattaya a few times and did not like it. I apologize you are so sensitive regarding where you currently reside and feel you must defend it. Perhaps its works well for you and your needs in life yet it hasn't for all those who were killed or lost their lives due to criminal activity.

I am YeaBiGgiEs and I have spoken on this day!

not sensitive or overly defensive, just realistic

viewing the over sensationalized headlines in the local rags or on this forum does not affect me, they are the exception not the norm

hundreds of thousands of expats and tourists go about their daily lives in Pattaya without interteracting with criminals in any way.

so making a generalized opinion on the place and the people that live here, on a few short visits and shocking rhetoric is short sighted in my opinion

by comparison to 90% of other places in Thailand, Pattaya is an easy place to live

like i often say to folks who urge me to travel around Thailand, this five square miles of Thailand has everything i need

i can be critical of Pattaya myself sometimes and usually on this forum

its a bit like making rude remarks about your brother, you know him, hes your brother, you are allowed

it becomes offensive when someone else says the same thing about your brother and you become defensive on behalf of your brother even though you know its true

my defense of Pattaya is a bit like that, i know its not perfect but its generally ok

however, it seems you barely know Pattaya, so why do feel the urge to knock it?

why not express your criticism to the confines of the Bangkok forum and discuss the pros and cons of Bangkok with fellow Bangkokians?

this is a subject matter you may actually know something about

i am BLaCkMan and i have spoken on this day

How does a news article regarding an old man being beaten on get to a thread fight about defending Pattaya?

How does a news article regarding an old man being beaten on get to a thread fight about defending Pattaya?

i expect you will inform the mods about this shocking and outrageous transgression

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This city is just getting worse and worse

Every day there are Assaults robbery

accidents due to drunk driving

tourist are robbed of their values at knife point

Jet ski mafia

Walking street mafia

Maybe its time to move from this city.....

I speculate it is the bad economy. No money from Mr. Falang = flared tempers. We all need to be a little more careful out there.

I think the teens messed up- getting agressive with a tourist is usually low risk. They will not remain in Thailand long enough to push the case through the legal system.

Disputes with locals are another matter. The article states that the older Thai man owns a restaurant, so he will have the means to pursue justice.

Remember another Thai man that was recently robbed of a valuable gold necklace? And his son was an "influential" person. Oh my buddha, I wouldn't want an enemy like that

The victim might have made some remark to the motorbike riders who jumped the light and almost hit him .... ? I would have.

Whoa! All stop there, little fella. Keep yer trap shut until you walk a mile in his shoes.

Then... you'll be 1.6 kilometers away and have some new footwear also

I hope they catch them and put them on public display for others to express their opinion of what they have done.

Not in a million years. These spawn are more revered than monks. Check it out and you'll see this is sadly true.

How does a news article regarding an old man being beaten on get to a thread fight about defending Pattaya?

@Gone, agreed. It started with my voicing an observation of many headlines of criminal nature being that of Pattaya and my personal experience and opinion reflecting that. In my blanket statement I inadvertently offended a resident, which wasn't my intention. Crime is everywhere and none of us are immune to it, wherever we choose to live or hide. I'm sure if I searched the internet I could probably find some factual statistics to support what I've posted.

One thing I did not know or pay attention to that was made clear to me was that I was posting my opinions about the news in Pattaya headlines that were in the Pattaya forum. DUH! <smack to the forehead> I receive the Thaivisa emails of breaking news to my email like all of us and I simply open it up and <right click/open in new tab> the articles I see of interest and never paid attention that it was bring me to those specific forums.

[back on topic] Not singling out Pattaya but its apparent that it seems to be a place that is appealing to local on tourist crimes and expat on tourist crimes as tourists are the easiest of targets. There have been recent posts that the Police are cracking down, made thousands arrests and so forth. This is a positive move and start because regardless of the political boundaries or provinces within Thailand, Pattaya is Thailand and what happens there or anywhere else in the country will affect tourism altogether.

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What Pattaya?! No never, I can't believe anything of the such would happen in that up-scale vacation hotspot.

Ok now 2 teens hardly make a "gang" unless of course it was found that they were acting or connected with a larger group hitting various parts of the city.

No doubt that there may have been an exchange of words before this happened. Typical thainess and saving face.

Regardless, from my experience and observations of Thai culture and laws, the man deserved it. Look at what he was doing!!! He was crossing the street. That certainly warrants a minimal sentence of a public beating but not yet that severe of a sword stabbing death from not paying 51b taxi fare or being stabbed to death for not stopping your singing in a karaoke bar. As a tourist you should know better that you are not allowed to cross the street, sing in a karaoke bar or STEAL 51b with the intent to deprive the worst of all.

On a more serious note, as I've said in all my posts regarding Pattaya, it truly is a cesspool. Perhaps at one point in time it may have been a dream vacation getaway hotspot but times have changed. Simply google these 3 words "tourist death thailand" or narrow it down to Pattaya. With using Thailand I got over 10,200,000 results; with Pattaya I got 719,000.

Very scary and sad

How does a news article regarding an old man being beaten on get to a thread fight about defending Pattaya?

@Gone, agreed. It started with my voicing an observation of many headlines of criminal nature being that of Pattaya and my personal experience and opinion reflecting that. In my blanket statement I inadvertently offended a resident, which wasn't my intention. Crime is everywhere and none of us are immune to it, wherever we choose to live or hide. I'm sure if I searched the internet I could probably find some factual statistics to support what I've posted.

One thing I did not know or pay attention to that was made clear to me was that I was posting my opinions about the news in Pattaya headlines that were in the Pattaya forum. DUH! <smack to the forehead> I receive the Thaivisa emails of breaking news to my email like all of us and I simply open it up and <right click/open in new tab> the articles I see of interest and never paid attention that it was bring me to those specific forums.

[back on topic] Not singling out Pattaya but its apparent that it seems to be a place that is appealing to local on tourist crimes and expat on tourist crimes as tourists are the easiest of targets. There have been recent posts that the Police are cracking down, made thousands arrests and so forth. This is a positive move and start because regardless of the political boundaries or provinces within Thailand, Pattaya is Thailand and what happens there or anywhere else in the country will affect tourism altogether.

I don't understand your post have you now changed your opinion of Pattaya or do you still hold your original view?

What Pattaya?! No never, I can't believe anything of the such would happen in that up-scale vacation hotspot.

Ok now 2 teens hardly make a "gang" unless of course it was found that they were acting or connected with a larger group hitting various parts of the city.

No doubt that there may have been an exchange of words before this happened. Typical thainess and saving face.

Regardless, from my experience and observations of Thai culture and laws, the man deserved it. Look at what he was doing!!! He was crossing the street. That certainly warrants a minimal sentence of a public beating but not yet that severe of a sword stabbing death from not paying 51b taxi fare or being stabbed to death for not stopping your singing in a karaoke bar. As a tourist you should know better that you are not allowed to cross the street, sing in a karaoke bar or STEAL 51b with the intent to deprive the worst of all.

On a more serious note, as I've said in all my posts regarding Pattaya, it truly is a cesspool. Perhaps at one point in time it may have been a dream vacation getaway hotspot but times have changed. Simply google these 3 words "tourist death thailand" or narrow it down to Pattaya. With using Thailand I got over 10,200,000 results; with Pattaya I got 719,000.

Very scary and sad

How does a news article regarding an old man being beaten on get to a thread fight about defending Pattaya?

@Gone, agreed. It started with my voicing an observation of many headlines of criminal nature being that of Pattaya and my personal experience and opinion reflecting that. In my blanket statement I inadvertently offended a resident, which wasn't my intention. Crime is everywhere and none of us are immune to it, wherever we choose to live or hide. I'm sure if I searched the internet I could probably find some factual statistics to support what I've posted.

One thing I did not know or pay attention to that was made clear to me was that I was posting my opinions about the news in Pattaya headlines that were in the Pattaya forum. DUH! <smack to the forehead> I receive the Thaivisa emails of breaking news to my email like all of us and I simply open it up and <right click/open in new tab> the articles I see of interest and never paid attention that it was bring me to those specific forums.

[back on topic] Not singling out Pattaya but its apparent that it seems to be a place that is appealing to local on tourist crimes and expat on tourist crimes as tourists are the easiest of targets. There have been recent posts that the Police are cracking down, made thousands arrests and so forth. This is a positive move and start because regardless of the political boundaries or provinces within Thailand, Pattaya is Thailand and what happens there or anywhere else in the country will affect tourism altogether.

I don't understand your post have you now changed your opinion of Pattaya or do you still hold your original view?

No I havn't changed my opinion about Pattaya. Of all the cities or places in Thailand, I feel (without actual statistics) IMO that Pattaya is the most dangerous of cities to live, with the highest violent crimes/murder rate than any other. By no means am I criticizing those that are residents of Pattaya, it is nothing personal.