Locals show disagreement over construction of more runway in Suvarnabhumi Airport

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Locals show disagreement over construction of more runway in Suvarnabhumi Airport

SAMU PRAKAN, 07 Oct 2013 (NNT) - Locals residing around the Suvarnabhumi Airport have showed their disapproval of the Airport of Thailand Public Company Limited (AOT)'s decision to build additional runways, saying that the company should complete the compensation from the previous project first before proceeding with another project.

More than 2,000 residents signed petitions indicating their discontent with the construction of the airport's 3rd and 4th runways. The constructions would be responsible by the United Analyst and Engineering Consultant Company Limited, the advising company of the AOT.

Recently the advising company has organized a forum to determine details of the environmental impact study on the building of the runway on the southern and western zones of the airport.

The locals claimed that there are still more than 10,000 households that have yet to receive the compensation from the construction of the 1st and 2nd runway, demanding for the completion of the handing out of the previous compensation first before the company embarks on another project as resolved by cabinet on November 21st 2006.

The locals threaten to escalate their gathering if their demands have not been met.

-- NNT 2013-10-07

[jaltsc]

"The locals claimed that there are still more than 10,000 households that have yet to receive the compensation from the construction of the 1st and 2nd runway..."

I thought it was only farangs who didn't know if you don't get the money up front, you will never see it. In Thailand, verbal promises are not worth the paper they are not written on. Same goes for written promises and the paper that is usually lost in the shuffle.

[Kalbo]

"The locals claimed that there are still more than 10,000 households that have yet to receive the compensation from the construction of the 1st and 2nd runway..."

I thought it was only farangs who didn't know if you don't get the money up front, you will never see it. In Thailand, verbal promises are not worth the paper they are not written on. Same goes for written promises and the paper that is usually lost in the shuffle.

　In all fairness to AOT, I am 100% farang, applied for compensation and received B83,000 about 7 months after application (cheque received January 2012). The only people I know of who didn't receive compensation were those who either didn't apply for it., or their documents weren't in order (i.e. photo copies instead of original copies of chanote, those who'd defaulted on bank loan payments for their mortgage etc etc)

[tomross46]

Put two more runways in the swamp? It has been reported in the local and international media concerning the questionable construction of the first two runways. Many years ago when PM Chavalit was in-charge of the military, he said that he would move the Air Force from Don Muang to Korat, thereby making it a 100% domestic airport. Don Muang is high ground, and is not in the middle of a swamp.

PM Chavailt also stated that he would move the Cavalry to Salaburi and the Navy to Satahip, like all good plans, no action or followup.

[nong38]

They could build the third runway at London Heathrow and the third Heathrow runway could be built at BKK then everyone will he happy.

Everyone is the same, not in my backyard.

[Baerboxer]

Put two more runways in the swamp? It has been reported in the local and international media concerning the questionable construction of the first two runways. Many years ago when PM Chavalit was in-charge of the military, he said that he would move the Air Force from Don Muang to Korat, thereby making it a 100% domestic airport. Don Muang is high ground, and is not in the middle of a swamp.

PM Chavailt also stated that he would move the Cavalry to Salaburi and the Navy to Satahip, like all good plans, no action or followup.

In 2011 Don Muang flooded much worse than anything at Suvarnabhumi. Rangsit floods regularly when there's heavy rain, making it difficult to get to DM sometimes.

[HeijoshinCool]

First, they should widen the existing runways, so planes stop "slipping" off them.

[bra]

First, they should widen the existing runways, so planes stop "slipping" off them.

The existing runways are 60 m wide, which is the ICAO requirement for Code F aircraft with wing spans of 65 to 80 m(A380 etc). The airport meets all of the International standards for the surface layout, same as Changi, KL, Hong Kong, Incheon etc.

[marcusd]

The Airport regularly suffers delays in aircraft movements due to congestion. NO ONE wants more noise but the Airport brings so much business boon to Thailand how can they NOT build more runways.

And as to the water problmes, maybe they will have more pumps so that might actuyally IMPROVE things. Not being and engineer I have NO IDEA but I hate being delayed when traveliing as I guess many of you do too. As the airport has sufficient space and this was though of for FUTURE proffing the Subhi Airport, I feel they should take full advantage and go ahead.

[HeijoshinCool]

First, they should widen the existing runways, so planes stop "slipping" off them.

The existing runways are 60 m wide, which is the ICAO requirement for Code F aircraft with wing spans of 65 to 80 m(A380 etc). The airport meets all of the International standards for the surface layout, same as Changi, KL, Hong Kong, Incheon etc.

And you should widen your sense of humor, as well.

[ratcatcher]

How many of the people demanding compensation moved into new homes after the construction of Swampy was started.

I can understand people in preexisting peripheral communities being upset with the noise as they were there first. But, who in their right mind would buy a house next to an airport or under a flight path within 2km of the airport.

Wasn't it Mr Thaksin's idea to have a thing called an Aeropolis or some such name?

[GrantSmith]

Wasn't it Mr Thaksin's idea to have a thing called an Aeropolis or some such name?

You mean make it a h... nevermind

[GrantSmith]

First, they should widen the existing runways, so planes stop "slipping" off them.

The existing runways are 60 m wide, which is the ICAO requirement for Code F aircraft with wing spans of 65 to 80 m(A380 etc). The airport meets all of the International standards for the surface layout, same as Changi, KL, Hong Kong, Incheon etc.

And you should widen your sense of humor, as well.

Well to be fair, the slippery when wet signs hadn't been activated at Trang and Udon Thani... Also, as this is, Swampy related there hasn't been a slip up for a while

[FarangTalk]

More runways means more buses to take people to and from the planes.

Terrible airport, ill-conceived and poorly executed.

Made the generals a lot of money though.

[bkk_mike]

This isn't complaining about them building the new runways, as the third and fourth runways were always in the plans.

This is just a - where's our compensation? We'll kick up a fuss until we get the compensation we were promised...

What's the betting the compensation is already paid out (as far as the accounts are concerned - not necessarily to the persons that should have received it...), which will mean this will probably drag on for a while.

[siampolee]

Made the generals a lot of money though.

More money made by a prominent political family in Thailand and later abroad from land purchase and subsequent sell off of the land along with the ''big bag lady'' collecting the commission payments for the family. 30% was the going rate.

[FarangTalk]

Made the generals a lot of money though.

More money made by a prominent political family in Thailand and later abroad from land purchase and subsequent sell off of the land along with the ''big bag lady'' collecting the commission payments for the family. 30% was the going rate.

No doubt. Fkn scumbags.

[bra]

First, they should widen the existing runways, so planes stop "slipping" off them.

The existing runways are 60 m wide, which is the ICAO requirement for Code F aircraft with wing spans of 65 to 80 m(A380 etc). The airport meets all of the International standards for the surface layout, same as Changi, KL, Hong Kong, Incheon etc.

And you should widen your sense of humor, as well.

Well to be fair, the slippery when wet signs hadn't been activated at Trang and Udon Thani... Also, as this is, Swampy related there hasn't been a slip up for a while

Wow! "Slippery when wet signs". More absolutely fantastic humour! You guys are a laugh a minute. The Udon Thani Taxiway was not wet, but never mind why spoil a great joke. Now if you want to experience real aviation humour try this:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp_hzrB_FI4‎

[peecee]

First, they should widen the existing runways, so planes stop "slipping" off them.

The existing runways are 60 m wide, which is the ICAO requirement for Code F aircraft with wing spans of 65 to 80 m(A380 etc). The airport meets all of the International standards for the surface layout, same as Changi, KL, Hong Kong, Incheon etc.

He was using irony!

[GrantSmith]

First, they should widen the existing runways, so planes stop "slipping" off them.

The existing runways are 60 m wide, which is the ICAO requirement for Code F aircraft with wing spans of 65 to 80 m(A380 etc). The airport meets all of the International standards for the surface layout, same as Changi, KL, Hong Kong, Incheon etc.

And you should widen your sense of humor, as well.

Well to be fair, the slippery when wet signs hadn't been activated at Trang and Udon Thani... Also, as this is, Swampy related there hasn't been a slip up for a while

Wow! "Slippery when wet signs". More absolutely fantastic humour! You guys are a laugh a minute. The Udon Thani Taxiway was not wet, but never mind why spoil a great joke.

Ok I was siding with you initially on your broadside at HeijoshinCool, but you sir, need to pull your head out of your arse!

Your sarcasm is neither intelligent or witty..

Swampy has a lot of work to do before it considers a 3rd and 4th runway...

Never mind it's readiness for the A380, that's not the argument being established here..

[baboon]

In my unqualified opinion, Don Muang and Suvarnabhumi combined easily have the capacity to deal with civil aviation for a long time to come - do any of you recall having to be stacked for 40 minutes before landing before waiting another 40 minutes on the ground before a gate / parking space was allocated?

If The Powers That Be are so desperate for another few hundred million in tips, could they not extract them from improved links between the two airports and shoring up DM's flood defences? That way you would have fewer complaints from both travelers and locals alike yet still keep your overfed noses in the trough. Everyone wins!

[rametindallas]

Put two more runways in the swamp? It has been reported in the local and international media concerning the questionable construction of the first two runways. Many years ago when PM Chavalit was in-charge of the military, he said that he would move the Air Force from Don Muang to Korat, thereby making it a 100% domestic airport. Don Muang is high ground, and is not in the middle of a swamp.

PM Chavailt also stated that he would move the Cavalry to Salaburi and the Navy to Satahip, like all good plans, no action or followup.

"Don Muang is high ground"

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02051/don-muang-airport_2051795i.jpg

[jayjayjayjay]

Where are they going to fit two more runways? Are they planning on 1 being the Motorway and 2 being the Bangna-Trad Chonburi overhead.... will be a bloody long walk the collect your bags. More work for the buses too. So they don't have enough air-bridges now? With the way Global Raining is going they might have to start a boat service. This will be no problem, the taxi boat drivers are pretty good, I can see them now banging up agains an Airbus 380 and having to jump three stories into the back of a "longtail". Will certainly keep the WFT factor going in the tourist trade! hheheheh

[jayjayjayjay]

Where are they going to fit two more runways? Are they planning on 1 being the Motorway and 2 being the Bangna-Trad Chonburi overhead.... will be a bloody long walk the collect your bags. More work for the buses too. So they don't have enough air-bridges now? With the way Global Raining is going they might have to start a boat service. This will be no problem, the taxi boat drivers are pretty good, I can see them now banging up against an Airbus 380 and having to jump three stories into the back of a "longtail". Will certainly keep the WFT factor going in the tourist trade! hheheheh