“You’re only a guest here. If you don’t like it, leave.”

[Soutpeel]

Op.

You are quite right.

You are not a guest.

You are a migrant worker.

Akin to migrant workers from,Myanmar,Laos, Cambodia.

I am however a guest and was invited.

Thus don't need to seek employment of the downtrodden.

....

[Thai at Heart]

This ssentence is trotted out to defend the indefenible and it acknowledges the powerlessness of the population.

You dont like corruption, prostitution, pollution, traffic jams? Etc and etc, "go home" and don't talk to me about it, because I am powerless to do anything about it.

The person saying "go home" but instead of doing something about it, they would rather you shut up, because you are making then feel guilty for doing nothing about it.

[lemoncake]

he who reckons he is a gift to Thailand!

Well you are a worker, not a guest, as you get paid for something?

For sure, if it weren't for people like you where would Thailand be? If it it weren't for the great farang there would be no Thai's in work. You are indeed a saviour of the country.

I bet you, your co-workers unity would soon evaporate once someone said OK lets leave this Job. Now is your chance to test it, just before you leave Thailand.

Well if it was not for foreigners Thailand may well be 3rd world dump .

Most manufacturing is/ was foreign- cars, bikes, electronics , white goods.

Thailand is not and never was a pioneer of anything really.I

Thailand does however practice use and abuse policy really well.

Just think what would be if all foreign capital and businesses pulled out, unless you forgot that it was foreign capital that steered Thailand through the tough times.

If a giant like Toyota pulled out or moved, you would have few thousand of unemployed people and few million short on taxes and that's just a start.

I as a working foreigner pay more tax in 1 month than 4 Thai staff in a life time , because Thai do not pay any ( not all but a vast majority)

I didn't realise the Japanese are farang! your not wrong about how things are, I think Thailand is still a 3rd world country. But if the OP really feels the way he sounds, then maybe he would be better off elsewhere! He could earn more in the same field (what ever that may be) in his home country! So what is he doing here?

Japanese are foreigners just as anyone one else non Thai

[lemoncake]

Op.

You are quite right.

You are not a guest.

You are a migrant worker.

Akin to migrant workers from,Myanmar,Laos, Cambodia.

I am however a guest and was invited.

Thus don't need to seek employment of the downtrodden.

You mean you are retired and hoping to get little more for your pension?

[razorramone]

guest or not, you are not a citizen and have no right to residence in Thailand apart from under the conditions they decide. Stop whining like such a little bitch.

[cpofc]

This ssentence is trotted out to defend the indefenible and it acknowledges the powerlessness of the population.

You dont like corruption, prostitution, pollution, traffic jams? Etc and etc, "go home" and don't talk to me about it, because I am powerless to do anything about it.

The person saying "go home" but instead of doing something about it, they would rather you shut up, because you are making then feel guilty for doing nothing about it.

Good idea! I am going to take up guitar lessons and buy a Ten Gallon Hat!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHAFmFsb9XM

[Riverman63]

On a similar note, let's hope China don't pull their loan from the USA. It's all global now, no country is an island.....

[NoshowJones]

The Guest. That was absolutely brilliant, no one has ever said truer words. What else can I say?

[sustento]

Is it Saturday already?

[NoshowJones]

Well said OP. You never said truer words. Everything you said was spot on.

[MrWorldwide]

OP, unless you have a Thai passport, how are you NOT a guest in Thailand ? The very fact that you need a Work Permit and a visa simply to call Thailand 'home' should tell you something. I don't see anything derogatory in the term 'guest' - as long as its not preceded by 'uninvited'.....

You're living the dream - what does it matter what someone on an internet forum types from their room at the rehab center ?

[daoyai]

Being in the guest worker program beats being an undocumented alien.

[Thai at Heart]

This ssentence is trotted out to defend the indefenible and it acknowledges the powerlessness of the population.

You dont like corruption, prostitution, pollution, traffic jams? Etc and etc, "go home" and don't talk to me about it, because I am powerless to do anything about it.

The person saying "go home" but instead of doing something about it, they would rather you shut up, because you are making then feel guilty for doing nothing about it.

Good idea! I am going to take up guitar lessons and buy a Ten Gallon Hat!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHAFmFsb9XM

Well I like the tune. Issue is that so often the issues are indefensible.

Prostitution? Not really defensible? Corruption? Not really defensible.

If you don't like it, go home...

It's just a lame cop out

[givenall]

As a guest why am i being sak to spend ally money. They should take care of me

We are more like no fee ATM

[willyumiii]

Sounds like you do not like it here!

LEAVE!

[PattayaPhom]

Apart from the double pricing, pay your taxes, keep your nose clean and after 4 Years it's easy to get citizenship. What's up with you

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[klubex99]

I agree with the OP that “You’re only a guest here. If you don’t like it, leave.” is an unfortunate choice of words but the underlying sentiment still stands; why waste your breath complaining about things you can't change? The only reason people use that phrase is when they encounter others who bitch, whine and moan. Quit complaining and you won't hear it anymore. Simple.

While I agree with the majority of your post, the glaring thing remains. Thailand has its faults and it has heaps of them. If nobody whinged about them, then we wouldn't really have a lot to talk about.

Just go through the threads on the general discussion section and you will see that most are actually griping. There are not many threads based on the positives.

If you think these are just unfounded moans... then take a trip to the ;Thailand news' section.... all the threads are factual based (or meant to be)... You will see the negativity increase by a huge margin.

[iancnx]

Agreed, Some might believe they are guests if they intend to move away at some point, or if for example they live in Austrailia and have no intention of living here, but I nor my wife believes that applies to me. I have invested a chunk of change in property and I pay my taxes. I contribute to the local community every day. I have a Thai/Brit son I will apply for Citizenship in due course.

Edited October 12, 2013 by iancnx

[iancnx]

OP, unless you have a Thai passport, how are you NOT a guest in Thailand ? The very fact that you need a Work Permit and a visa simply to call Thailand 'home' should tell you something. I don't see anything derogatory in the term 'guest' - as long as its not preceded by 'uninvited'.....

You're living the dream - what does it matter what someone on an internet forum types from their room at the rehab center ?

Another irrelevant post!

[klubex99]

Agreed, Some might believe they are guests if they intend to move away at some point, or if for example they live in Austrailia and have no intention of living here, but I nor my wife believes that applies to me. I have invested a chunk of change in property and I pay my taxes. I contribute to the local community every day. I have a Thai/Brit son I will apply for Citizenship in due course.

+1

So long as we conform with all the legal Thai criteria to be able to make this either our permanent or long term home and we pay for the privilege into the Thai economy in order to call this place our home, and we treat it as our home, then this place is considered home to us... You can't be a guest in your own home can you?

So when things adversely affect our home life, we have a right to gripe and moan about it.

The thing that pushes my buttons is when idiots say 'If you don't like it.... then go home'... Erm... We ARE home! It's a lot like saying you can never stray from the city or town of your birth and then complain about negative factors that surround your immediate existence. I moved from Newcastle, UK at the age of 20 to Oxfordshire where i lived a further 20 years.... Would you say I have no right to complain about Oxfordshire? Even though I pay my tax there, own property there and was raising a family there who were all born in Oxfordshire...Or should I go home to Newcastle where I have the only entitlement to moan??

Edited October 12, 2013 by klubex99

[Naam]

Please, please!! Have mercy! NOT AGAIN !!

Captain Picard! Ensign Soi41 reports again a crewman who seems to have ingested illegal substances and is raving and ranting about "guests in Thailand". what are your orders Sir?

[Naam]

So take your “You’re only a guest here. If you don’t like it, leave” and stick it up your dam_n ass.

[klubex99]

So take your “You’re only a guest here. If you don’t like it, leave” and stick it up your dam_n ass.

[Gsxrnz]

If a foreigner living in my country chooses to complains too much and compares countries by saying everything is better at home, guess what.....we Kiwis would be lining up to tell that foreigner to Fark off, and stay Farked off. In fact we do it quite often, usually to Australians (sorry - joke).

But the really cool thing is when a foreigner from Country A living in NZ complains to a Foreigner from Country B, and the B foreigner tells the A foreigner that if you don't like it here, Fark off and stay there. They know what side of their toast is buttered.

Not really different to Farang in Thailand. None of us are Thai, we're all guests here (pedants with "guest" phobia excluded, naturally), so I feel quite justified in telling Farang to Fark off if they don't like it here.

I'd never do that to a fellow TV member though - rather pointless on an anonymous forum. I do however take great pleasure in talking to whingers face to face and explaining how much better they would feel if they were to return home, or at least get their whinging arse well away from me.

[klubex99]

If a foreigner living in my country chooses to complains too much and compares countries by saying everything is better at home, guess what.....we Kiwis would be lining up to tell that foreigner to Fark off, and stay Farked off. In fact we do it quite often, usually to Australians (sorry - joke).

But the really cool thing is when a foreigner from Country A living in NZ complains to a Foreigner from Country B, and the B foreigner tells the A foreigner that if you don't like it here, Fark off and stay there. They know what side of their toast is buttered.

Not really different to Farang in Thailand. None of us are Thai, we're all guests here (pedants with "guest" phobia excluded, naturally), so I feel quite justified in telling Farang to Fark off if they don't like it here.

I'd never do that to a fellow TV member though - rather pointless on an anonymous forum. I do however take great pleasure in talking to whingers face to face and explaining how much better they would feel if they were to return home, or at least get their whinging arse well away from me.

So if we sift through your TV content, then we won't find any negativity directed to Thai or Thailand then?

But I am going to expand here.

About 6 or 7 years ago, I was sat in a pub in the UK having a pint with my friend. This couple of Polish guys sat down at the table next to us. After an hour or so, we all got chatting together, and then one of these Polish guys came out with 'I hate England, and the English people are stupid'.

My mate turned straight to him and told him to piss off back to Poland if he didn't like it. I immediately turned to my mate and told him to shut it. Then I turned to this Polish guy and asked him why he said that especially to 2 English guys, what was his problem?

We had a conversation about all the things he didn't like about being in England, but was trapped here because he could have a much better existence than in Poland, at least he had prospects. But he also felt very discriminated against by the UK people. He and his friend were always coming up against comments along the lines of. 'Fark off if you don't like it'.

After we talked over the problems and I explained why they were getting this aggravation, the guy became a lot more understanding. It turns out they were just homesick, and also sick of being treated differently merely because they came from somewhere else for a getter life. They felt second class and it was frustrating.

But anyway... We actually all became quite pally and ended up having a good time with many a beer. No longer did they think so shallow about English people, they felt better in themselves.

The problem is.... My mate is not very intelligent, and so just blurted out the usual 'piss off then' remark, because it takes no thinking about and is easy to say. The intelligent people are the ones who will not say that, they will discuss the issue to root out the problems. People who just jump in with the old and over-used 'If you don't like it, you know what to do'.. Just because they see themselves instantly on the moral high ground by saying it, are just taking the easy kop out. They either are too lazy to discuss or just don't have the intellectual capacity to engage. So in my opinion, should not enter the debate at all..... just find another thread that suits your tastes and plays up to your own personal narrative.

Edited October 12, 2013 by klubex99

[A1Str8]

Agreed. You are not a guest here. Thais want to make you feel one but that doesn't matter anyway.

[GuestHouse]

If a foreigner living in my country chooses to complains too much and compares countries by saying everything is better at home, guess what.....we Kiwis would be lining up to tell that foreigner to Fark off, and stay Farked off. In fact we do it quite often, usually to Australians (sorry - joke).

But the really cool thing is when a foreigner from Country A living in NZ complains to a Foreigner from Country B, and the B foreigner tells the A foreigner that if you don't like it here, Fark off and stay there. They know what side of their toast is buttered.

Not really different to Farang in Thailand. None of us are Thai, we're all guests here (pedants with "guest" phobia excluded, naturally), so I feel quite justified in telling Farang to Fark off if they don't like it here.

I'd never do that to a fellow TV member though - rather pointless on an anonymous forum. I do however take great pleasure in talking to whingers face to face and explaining how much better they would feel if they were to return home, or at least get their whinging arse well away from me.

I'm sure you are aware that a lot of westerns (UK, Europe, US, Canadians) have a great deal of difficulty distinguishing between Kiwis and Ozzies.

Actually, its not that difficult - First chance they get, they both go walk-about.... but the Ozzies are the one's who eventually go back home.

[metisdead]

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