I've figured out why first dates don't work any better than they do. It's because they take place in restaurants. Women are weird and confused and unhappy about food, and men are weird and confused and unhappy about money, yet off they go, the minute they meet, to where you use money to buy food.

Adair Lara, Welcome to Earth, Mom (1992)

THIS made me think . . . .!! Come to think of it . . . .quite true

Imp

Impy, have you been drinking again? Tell us the full story!

Impy, have you been drinking again? Tell us the full story!

sh1t . . . .rumbled again!! hee hee!

Alas George, the full story is far too sordid to elaborate upon in a tasteful forum such as this I did however, think that the quote in question is a fair sumisation of said 1st dates . . .don't you agree? lol

Impy, have you been drinking again? Tell us the full story!

sh1t . . . .rumbled again!! hee hee!

Alas George, the full story is far too sordid to elaborate upon in a tasteful forum such as this I did however, think that the quote in question is a fair sumisation of said 1st dates . . .don't you agree? lol

Heheheheh what do you do on first dates Impy?... George isn't too hard to get

The best first date i ever had was while i was living in England...

I had been interested in a feamale work colleague for some time and was working on asking her out for a date.

She obviously knew my intentions and decided to get things moving faster and invited me to help her redecorate her living room lol.

It was the best first date i ever had , and we ended up living happily together for 10yrs.

Unfortunately she is no longer with us..but i will always love her.

Take care Mac.

The best first date i ever had was while i was living in England...

I had been interested in a feamale work colleague for some time and was working on asking her out for a date.

She obviously knew my intentions and decided to get things moving faster and invited me to help her redecorate her living room lol.

It was the best first date i ever had , and we ended up living happily together for 10yrs.

Unfortunately she is no longer with us..but i will always love her.

Take care Mac.

Your wife objected, or felt threatened by the extra body in the bed ?

I've figured out why first dates don't work any better than they do. It's because they take place in restaurants. Women are weird and confused and unhappy about food, and men are weird and confused and unhappy about money, yet off they go, the minute they meet, to where you use money to buy food.

Adair Lara, Welcome to Earth, Mom (1992)

THIS made me think . . . .!! Come to think of it . . . .quite true

Imp

impy you make me laugh - thought I was the only one with a weird train of thought.

The scary thing is I actually think there's some truth in that comment. Ever watch Eddie Murphy's "Raw" (very funny), he makes a comment about going on dates and how annoying it is when a woman just orders "a salad", esp when he can hear her tummy rumbling .

I had a food episode on my first date (back when I was sweet and innocent) - really liked the guy and he took me to a lovely restaurant and I was too nervous to eat (plus ordered fettucini so was too embarrassed to eat it just in case I looked like a pig). Anyway he noticed something was wrong (I felt like an idiot) but ended up telling him the truth and he thought it was sweet. We ditched the restaurant and went to my favourite icecreamery - ended up sitting on the yarra eating ice cream and chatting all night. I ended up spending 4 and half years with him.

Apart from then have only been on one other date - a blind one, set up by gay friends. Was a disaster, won't go into detail but lets just say it involved a gay bar (in soho), kareoke and alcohol. Personally don't like dates (too much pressure) and don't go on them - I will do catch ups for drinks though

If you think the first date sucks, you probably never experienced the last one,....

Imp

impy you make me laugh - thought I was the only one with a weird train of thought.

. . . . . Personally don't like dates (too much pressure) and don't go on them - I will do catch ups for drinks though

lol hey - big nicks & 'catch up for drinks' . . .all makes for heaps of fun dontcha think!

Yeh - know what ya mean - don't tend to 'do' dates either . . .they can be such a fag - and too much pressure by far. Last one I 'did' . . .was in a restraunt . . . .same ole same ole . . . .starving my nats off but pretending I'm not hungry coz I'm too embarrassed to eat in front of him . . .therefore steadily getting more pissed by the minute coz I'm drinking on an empty stomach Needless to say the whole thing was a disaster from start to finish . . .hence I take a rain-check on such things now . . . . And as for blind dates . . . naaaaaaaaaaasty!!

Imp

One of the last dates I went on I didn't even have a chance to eat - he just reached across the table and snarfed down almost everything on my plate!

One of the last dates I went on I didn't even have a chance to eat - he just reached across the table and snarfed down almost everything on my plate!

He was only hungry for food ...you were lucky

Absolutely Dr PP, selfish about food usually translates to selfish about everything.

Absolutely Dr PP, selfish about food usually translates to selfish about everything.

I could just nibble at the foodstuff and go for the ' other ' in a big way

The best first date i ever had was while i was living in England...

I had been interested in a feamale work colleague for some time and was working on asking her out for a date.

She obviously knew my intentions and decided to get things moving faster and invited me to help her redecorate her living room lol.

It was the best first date i ever had , and we ended up living happily together for 10yrs.

Unfortunately she is no longer with us..but i will always love her.

Take care Mac.

Your wife objected, or felt threatened by the extra body in the bed ?

She passed away (died)..you idiot.

One of the last dates I went on I didn't even have a chance to eat - he just reached across the table and snarfed down almost everything on my plate!

He was only hungry for food ...you were lucky

UHhhhhhhhhhhh Moscow . . . . bet he was a sloppy eater too! hee hee Well rid grrrrrrrrrlfreeeend!!

One of the last dates I went on I didn't even have a chance to eat - he just reached across the table and snarfed down almost everything on my plate!

it is said the quickest way to a man's heart is through his stomach .....or was that through his chest

it is said the quickest way to a man's heart is through his stomach .....or was that through his chest

Getting close,... I suggest, try a bit lower,....

it is said the quickest way to a man's heart is through his stomach  .....or was that through his chest 

Getting close,... I suggest, try a bit lower,....

I think you got it Blue

You know what they say, most men let the little head do the thinking for them instead of the big head

You know what they say, most men let the little head do the thinking for them instead of the big head

I'll say it again for you sbk...God gave man a dick and a brain, but not enough blood to run 'em together

it is said the quickest way to a man's heart is through his stomach  .....or was that through his chest 

Getting close,... I suggest, try a bit lower,....

Always thought that's where the brain was....explains why I don't get a response when I try striking up a convo

Always thought that's where the brain was....explains why I don't get a response when I try striking up a convo

Follow Dr. advice:

I'll say it again for you sbk...God gave man a dick and a brain, but not enough blood to run 'em together

So, you have to satisfy his one need BEFORE you even consider striking up a convo,...

But, sometimes, sometimes, it does not work that well, sleep gets in the way.

What can we do? Men are from Mars and women are from Venus

Men are from Mars and women are from Venus

and one's springing back like a rubber band and the other one's crashing like a wave

Men are from Mars and women are from Venus   

and one's springing back like a rubber band and the other one's crashing like a wave

In no particular order?

In no particular order?

According to John Gray Ch6 comes before Ch7 - but think there's more crashing the longer it takes for the rubber to spring back

but think there's more crashing the longer it takes for the rubber to spring back

And unfortunately, it does not get better with age.

As I said to Tustsiwarrior, " I wasted time, now time has wasted me,..."

But I was talking about him, of course, men, men, men,...

" I wasted time, now time has wasted me,..."

One of my greatest fears

I do believe that in a way men are more fortunate when it comes to time than women. For those of us who want to conceive we're racing against our biological clock. Time is limited for those of us who want to be Superwoman ie be a wife, mother and have a career. By the time we complete our education, travel, experience life, work, find our (soul) mate etc. the clock is ticking awfully fast - some are capable of turning down the sound and happy to join the new socio-economic group: single, childless, career women (not that there's anything wrong with that). Others can't ignore the ticking and attempt a gestalt juggling act, but something's got to give. I guess it comes down to priorities and if it's family than the sacrifice isn't a bad one.

[i guess it comes down to priorities and if it's family than the sacrifice isn't a bad one.

If the statistics about the number of children born in developed countries is any indication, this sacrifice is harder and harder to make. The couple is maybe the priority, the job, career and money sure are but family? Not so sure,...

And Thailand is fast joining the trend,...

[i guess it comes down to priorities and if it's family than the sacrifice isn't a bad one. 

If the statistics about the number of children born in developed countries is any indication, this sacrifice is harder and harder to make.

The above's my old fashion values coming out.

Many females raised during the 70's and 80's were presented with motherhood as generally a handicap, a hindrance and an obstacle for a woman to reach her full potential. So I guess the stats represent what's happening in society quite well.

If the statistics about the number of children born in developed countries is any indication, this sacrifice is harder and harder to make. The couple is maybe the priority, the job, career and money sure are but family? Not so sure,...

And Thailand is fast joining the trend,...

Most families in the developed world find they can't make ends meet if only one spouse is working. From the book: The Two Income Trap:

Warren says today's middle-class, two-income family is worse off than families of a generation ago, because today families need both incomes to simply make ends meet.

Over two decades ago, most middle-class families lived off one-income with a stay-at-home parent who had the option to join the work force to supplement the family income in times of need. This supplemental second income option — often discretionary — provides the family with what Warren calls a "safety net."

Middle-class two income families today have no safety net, she says, because their entire income is sapped. But they are not sapped by the excesses of groceries, designer clothing, expensive vacations and expensive sports shoes and equipment. Instead, the authors say it's the non-discretionary expenses such as the mortgage, health insurance, private pre-school, college tuition and a second car for mom that has shifted the American dream and driven middle-class families into bankruptcy.

Warren explains committing both mom and dad's income to the necessary family expenses has made families more financially vulnerable than ever before.

My mother was a stay-at-home mom until I was 12 when, in order to meet family expenses (my sister going to University for one) she had to go back to work. I am sure many mothers would love to stay home and take care of their kids. Perhaps if employers paid their employees a living wage, and covered health benefits, alot more moms could stay home. Unfortunately, the corporate world generally does not care about disintegrating families but only about the bottom line.