Thai analysis: All eyes on court verdict on Wednesday

[473geo]

But it isn't the 'convicted criminal' as you put it 'calling the shots' Robblok

Your inability to comprehend the simple inbalance in the current Thai political/Legal situation does you no favours along with those that follow your thinking

Because Robblok if the 'convicted criminal' as you put it was calling the shots he would not be in Dubai!

It is those that wish to continue 'calling the shots' (a rather applicable phrase) they interfere with the democratic process, utilising arcaic laws open to almost any interpretation on a given day. It is these persons who are not elected by the people, but seek to run the country, who will administer and subsequently ensure the continued divide in Thailand.

What difference does it make whether he's in Dubai? Ever heard of a telephone? There are even easier ways to communicate with people these days.

You really think Thaksin is 'calling the shots' as far as Thailand is concerned, you really think that? PTP yes, but certainly not Thailand, hence my point if he was 'calling the shots' concerning Thailand he would not be in Dubai!!! Missed by all the recent the Dem posters but not unexpected as they focus as usual on the Thaksin part.

[hellodolly]

All of this fuss is about the old days. No one outside of the PTP wants to go forward into peaceful democracy which is the way of the civilised.

These days we have a Democratically elected government with a massive mandate. The PTP have a working relationship with all of the Thai institutions based on mutual respect and the rule of law.

Even the Thai Military are onside with mutual respect for the Thai government. Every rational human being in Thailand wants a two party democracy with a sound government and a robust opposition.

Thailand's current opposition has the other view and will not comply with the customs and Laws of a legitimate government opposition.

Now the democrat opposition are playing their self annihilation cards in the hope of removing the government illegally. Driven by their own failure, the democrats are determined to go down fighting, even if they have to take all of the colleagues down with them.

I appeal to Khunn Abhisit and Khun Suthep to stop the madness before it is too late.

You mean stop it before the rest of the Nation see's how corrupt the PTP are. You sure get confused easily.

[473geo]

All of this fuss is about the old days. No one outside of the PTP wants to go forward into peaceful democracy which is the way of the civilised.

These days we have a Democratically elected government with a massive mandate. The PTP have a working relationship with all of the Thai institutions based on mutual respect and the rule of law.

Even the Thai Military are onside with mutual respect for the Thai government. Every rational human being in Thailand wants a two party democracy with a sound government and a robust opposition.

Thailand's current opposition has the other view and will not comply with the customs and Laws of a legitimate government opposition.

Now the democrat opposition are playing their self annihilation cards in the hope of removing the government illegally. Driven by their own failure, the democrats are determined to go down fighting, even if they have to take all of the colleagues down with them.

I appeal to Khunn Abhisit and Khun Suthep to stop the madness before it is too late.

You mean stop it before the rest of the Nation see's how corrupt the PTP are. You sure get confused easily.

It will be his age Dolly, prevalent on Tvisa

[Baerboxer]

But it isn't the 'convicted criminal' as you put it 'calling the shots' Robblok

Your inability to comprehend the simple inbalance in the current Thai political/Legal situation does you no favours along with those that follow your thinking

Because Robblok if the 'convicted criminal' as you put it was calling the shots he would not be in Dubai!

It is those that wish to continue 'calling the shots' (a rather applicable phrase) they interfere with the democratic process, utilising arcaic laws open to almost any interpretation on a given day. It is these persons who are not elected by the people, but seek to run the country, who will administer and subsequently ensure the continued divide in Thailand.

What difference does it make whether he's in Dubai? Ever heard of a telephone? There are even easier ways to communicate with people these days.

You really think Thaksin is 'calling the shots' as far as Thailand is concerned, you really think that? PTP yes, but certainly not Thailand, hence my point if he was 'calling the shots' concerning Thailand he would not be in Dubai!!! Missed by all the recent the Dem posters but not unexpected as they focus as usual on the Thaksin part.

Of course he calls all the shots for PTP. But, even Thaksin apparently underestimated the strength, depth, and variety of those that have strong feelings against simply whitewashing his conviction and outstanding criminal charges. He daren't come back until those are out of the way, and removed under a veneer of legality.

He's not able to influence or con the majority that don't allow themselves to be duped, bought or intimidated by his cronies. The initial idea of having amphors display notices strongly supporting the whitewash and "persuade" people to sign a petition in support, is a good example of how his mind works. Devious, cunning, clever, immoral, unethical, - but also insecure and frightened, Constantly needing to be reassured, even if the reassurance is self-fabricated.

He would certainly like to be calling all the shots for Thailand, and in an unchallenged way. He has made open comments about that before.

[hellodolly]

I do understand the calls for democracy to take its course and the right and proper way is through elections. However, I don't think it needs half the population of Thailand to demonstrate on the streets of Thailand to demonstrate lack of confidence and trust in the present government. If the government are/were doing a good enough job, then they wouldn't have needed to go down the road of the amnesty bill, and there wouldn't be piles of rotting rice throughout the country.

It's all about Thaksin, and a share of the public coffers and nothing else. Doesn't really matter if the protests are led by a mad Democrat politician or a farmer in a red shirt ... this government doesn't deserve to continuing governing the country ... has it even started proper governance yet? The Democrats are not much better, and need to radically reform their ideas to win a general election outright.

Governments will continue to fail, fall apart, be exposed or be brought down ... until they fully understand democracy and work for the whole country above their personal interests. It's not going to happen any time soon. Let's hope the next generation demand more from their politicians than short-term handouts.

Well I certainly agree with most of what you say. How ever I don't think the Democrats have ever been given a fair chance to show their hand. They have been busy trying to protect Thailand in a legal way from becoming a dictatorship. When they were in the PMs office they did not have the support to do as they pleased such as the PTP have now.

If you will recollect they had to coddle up to 20 Thaksin trained deserters who brought all their dirty tricks Thaksin had tought them with them plus other parties. They have never been given a chance to govern.

time will tell as it sits now I see no other choice. The other parties have already committed them selves to do what ever Thaksin orders them to do. I doubt we could get even an honest attempt out of them. Maybe in fact in reality the democrats would not be able to right all the wrongs this government has done but they would be able to show the voters they don't have to be screwed by the government. that would be a start.

[kimamey]

But it isn't the 'convicted criminal' as you put it 'calling the shots' Robblok

Your inability to comprehend the simple inbalance in the current Thai political/Legal situation does you no favours along with those that follow your thinking

Because Robblok if the 'convicted criminal' as you put it was calling the shots he would not be in Dubai!

It is those that wish to continue 'calling the shots' (a rather applicable phrase) they interfere with the democratic process, utilising arcaic laws open to almost any interpretation on a given day. It is these persons who are not elected by the people, but seek to run the country, who will administer and subsequently ensure the continued divide in Thailand.

What difference does it make whether he's in Dubai? Ever heard of a telephone? There are even easier ways to communicate with people these days.

You really think Thaksin is 'calling the shots' as far as Thailand is concerned, you really think that? PTP yes, but certainly not Thailand, hence my point if he was 'calling the shots' concerning Thailand he would not be in Dubai!!! Missed by all the recent the Dem posters but not unexpected as they focus as usual on the Thaksin part.

It seems likely that he has a great influence at the very least and even if he is calling the shots it doesn't follow that he will get his way because as you say his main influence is his party the PTP.

It's only my guess but I think he thought that he could get away with the amnesty. Obviously there would be opposition from political opponents but he underestimated the response from the red shirts and other supporters. Those people aren't in general against the amnesty for Thaksin but against the amnesty for Abhisit and Suthep that goes with it. The government promised justice for those killed in 2010 but he wants amnesty for himself more.

[kimamey]

All of this fuss is about the old days. No one outside of the PTP wants to go forward into peaceful democracy which is the way of the civilised.

These days we have a Democratically elected government with a massive mandate. The PTP have a working relationship with all of the Thai institutions based on mutual respect and the rule of law.

Even the Thai Military are onside with mutual respect for the Thai government. Every rational human being in Thailand wants a two party democracy with a sound government and a robust opposition.

Thailand's current opposition has the other view and will not comply with the customs and Laws of a legitimate government opposition.

Now the democrat opposition are playing their self annihilation cards in the hope of removing the government illegally. Driven by their own failure, the democrats are determined to go down fighting, even if they have to take all of the colleagues down with them.

I appeal to Khunn Abhisit and Khun Suthep to stop the madness before it is too late.

Abhisit and Suthep will not act to stop this "madness".They are facing charges for their alleged part in the 2010 shootings, they haven't a hope in hell of winning at the ballot box and know it. They need to bring down the government by other means, and fairly quickly if they are to escape their day in court.

They didn't want an amnesty because that would mean Thaksin back. Thaksin back would guarantee PT winning the next election, because of his enduring popularity with the electorate. But without an amnesty they are also likely to end up in court. Therefore they have to bring down the government.

I think you should read your post again because it doesn't make a lot of sense.

they haven't a hope in hell of winning at the ballot box and know it.

They didn't want an amnesty because that would mean Thaksin back. Thaksin back would guarantee PT winning the next election, because of his enduring popularity with the electorate.

If they haven't got a hope in hell of winning at the ballot box it makes no difference if Thaksin comes back or not. If they can't win it will be

the PTP anyway so they might as well go for the less risky option of the amnesty.

But without an amnesty they are also likely to end up in court. Therefore they have to bring down the government.

Are you saying that their appearance in court is down to the government and that if the government falls proper justice will return or that without the current government they will be able to influence the court and walk free. You don't make this clear.

Their decision not to back an amnesty goes back way before the current demonstrations which I doubt they could have foreseen. I think the most likely scenario is that they feel in a fair trial they can clear themselves of most of the blame. Looking at the evidence so far I would think that is a fair assumption. It seems more likely that the army was at fault but of course the government don't want to go down that route.

[JAG]

OK, lets amend my post to read:They didn't want an amnesty because that would mean Thaksin back. Thaksin back would entrench a PT government for at least a couple of parliamentary cycles, because of his enduring popularity with the electorate.

Secondly, I am suggesting that if the current government falls, then the court case will be dropped

[whybother]

OK, lets amend my post to read:They didn't want an amnesty because that would mean Thaksin back. Thaksin back would entrench a PT government for at least a couple of parliamentary cycles, because of his enduring popularity with the electorate.

 

Secondly, I am suggesting that if the current government falls, then the court case will be dropped

 

 

Firstly, if Thaksin was to get amnesty now I believe there would be a lot more people protesting.

Second, the current government falling wouldn't necessarily lead to a Democrat government. It would lead to elections.

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[hellodolly]

But it isn't the 'convicted criminal' as you put it 'calling the shots' Robblok

Your inability to comprehend the simple inbalance in the current Thai political/Legal situation does you no favours along with those that follow your thinking

Because Robblok if the 'convicted criminal' as you put it was calling the shots he would not be in Dubai!

It is those that wish to continue 'calling the shots' (a rather applicable phrase) they interfere with the democratic process, utilising arcaic laws open to almost any interpretation on a given day. It is these persons who are not elected by the people, but seek to run the country, who will administer and subsequently ensure the continued divide in Thailand.

Those are the people who were trying to call the shots as ordered to by thaksin.

They did not count on the ordanary peace loving citizens getting tired of the Government not running the government for the betterment of Thailand just using all their efforts to white wash a convicted crimanal who can run the country from out side it but until he gets his white wash job he can notenter it with out doing a 2 year jail sentance and faacing other charges.

these perople are such a joke. I see where they are going to try to get all the peaceful anti government protestors suporting companies on money laundering. Not a word about where the moneey is coming from for the red shirts.

BANGKOK: -- Red-shirt leader Jatuporn Promphan announced late on Friday that another rally for supporters would be held at Bangkok's Rajamangala National Stadium on Tuesday and Wednesday. The red-shirts would stay overnight at the stadium, said Jatuporn, from a rally in Udon Thani.

Are their supporters going to be investigated.

Also while I am on the subject is it not strange that only red shirts go to their rallies. While the anti government rally is made up of people with no affiliation to run the country just to see an honest government. they don't have to be paid or bussed in they just come to try and make Thailand a better place.

[waza]

But it isn't the 'convicted criminal' as you put it 'calling the shots' Robblok

Your inability to comprehend the simple inbalance in the current Thai political/Legal situation does you no favours along with those that follow your thinking

Because Robblok if the 'convicted criminal' as you put it was calling the shots he would not be in Dubai!

It is those that wish to continue 'calling the shots' (a rather applicable phrase) they interfere with the democratic process, utilising arcaic laws open to almost any interpretation on a given day. It is these persons who are not elected by the people, but seek to run the country, who will administer and subsequently ensure the continued divide in Thailand.

What difference does it make whether he's in Dubai? Ever heard of a telephone? There are even easier ways to communicate with people these days.

You really think Thaksin is 'calling the shots' as far as Thailand is concerned, you really think that? PTP yes, but certainly not Thailand, hence my point if he was 'calling the shots' concerning Thailand he would not be in Dubai!!! Missed by all the recent the Dem posters but not unexpected as they focus as usual on the Thaksin part.

well if we follow your logic then both Thaksin and Yingluck aren't "calling the shots" as Thaksin is in Dubai and Yingluck is anywhere but Thailand. So who is calling the shots? Actually one look at the state of Thailand it is obvious no one is "calling the shots" on a day by day basis, but Thaksin has set the governments agenda and perpetuates it.

Edited November 17, 2013 by waza

[Pimay1]

PM wants peaceful Thailand, says govt believes Constitution Court on Nov 20 will carefully consider amendment on origin of senators /MCOT

And now we have a veiled threat from the PM herself. No careful consideration I.e. rule against the amendment and no peaceful Thailand.

Edited November 17, 2013 by Pimay1

[473geo]

But it isn't the 'convicted criminal' as you put it 'calling the shots' Robblok

Your inability to comprehend the simple inbalance in the current Thai political/Legal situation does you no favours along with those that follow your thinking

Because Robblok if the 'convicted criminal' as you put it was calling the shots he would not be in Dubai!

It is those that wish to continue 'calling the shots' (a rather applicable phrase) they interfere with the democratic process, utilising arcaic laws open to almost any interpretation on a given day. It is these persons who are not elected by the people, but seek to run the country, who will administer and subsequently ensure the continued divide in Thailand.

What difference does it make whether he's in Dubai? Ever heard of a telephone? There are even easier ways to communicate with people these days.

You really think Thaksin is 'calling the shots' as far as Thailand is concerned, you really think that? PTP yes, but certainly not Thailand, hence my point if he was 'calling the shots' concerning Thailand he would not be in Dubai!!! Missed by all the recent the Dem posters but not unexpected as they focus as usual on the Thaksin part.

well if we follow your logic then both Thaksin and Yingluck aren't "calling the shots" as Thaksin is in Dubai and Yingluck is anywhere but Thailand. So who is calling the shots? Actually one look at the state of Thailand it is obvious no one is "calling the shots" on a day by day basis, but Thaksin has set the governments agenda and perpetuates it.

"well if we follow your logic then both Thaksin and Yingluck aren't "calling the shots""

Up to this point your understanding was good..........then you started to add your own input

[waza]

What difference does it make whether he's in Dubai? Ever heard of a telephone? There are even easier ways to communicate with people these days.

You really think Thaksin is 'calling the shots' as far as Thailand is concerned, you really think that? PTP yes, but certainly not Thailand, hence my point if he was 'calling the shots' concerning Thailand he would not be in Dubai!!! Missed by all the recent the Dem posters but not unexpected as they focus as usual on the Thaksin part.

well if we follow your logic then both Thaksin and Yingluck aren't "calling the shots" as Thaksin is in Dubai and Yingluck is anywhere but Thailand. So who is calling the shots? Actually one look at the state of Thailand it is obvious no one is "calling the shots" on a day by day basis, but Thaksin has set the governments agenda and perpetuates it.

"well if we follow your logic then both Thaksin and Yingluck aren't "calling the shots""

Up to this point your understanding was good..........then you started to add your own input

Actually I was paraphrasing Thaksin.

"Thaksin Skypes orders back to Thailand for Pheu Thai to pass amnesty bill to keep UDD red shirts on side."

"For the past year and a half, by the party’s own admission, the most important political decisions in this country of 65 million people have been made from abroad, by a former prime minister who has been in self-imposed exile since 2008 to escape corruption charges." http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/30/world/asia/thaksin-shinawatra-of-thailand-wields-influence-from-afar.html_r=0

NYT article on how Thaksin rules the country with Skype and instant messenger

Thaksin Shinawatra discussed on skype with Puea Thai members of cabinet the government's policies and related issues on Wednesday. http://news.voicetv.co.th/in-english/18853.html

Former Thai prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra has utilized the Internet and mobile technology to govern the country from the skies, although his younger sister is officially in charge http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2013/02/03/2003554091/2

(Reuters) - Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra faced withering criticism on Friday for allowing her brother, deposed premier Thaksin Shinawatra, to summon government ministers for a meeting by web-cam from his self-imposed exile abroad......http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/09/23/idINIndia-59512220110923

Deputy Prime Minister and Interior Minister Yongyuth Wichaidit yesterday defended former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra’s Skype call to a meeting of Pheu Thai Party ministers on Wednesday as appropriate in light of Thaksin’s role as his adviser. “I have two advisers: Thaksin and former prime minister Somchai Wongsawat. I asked [Thaksin] for advice; he did not Skype the meeting unsolicited,” said Yongyuth, who is also Pheu Thai Party leader. http://khamerlogue.wordpress.com/2011/09/24/i-asked-thaksin-to-skype-thai-dpm-shouldnt-citizen-obey-the-dpm-request/

BANGKOK: Fugitive former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra lectured Thailand's cabinet for two hours during a Skype call from Cambodia in his most defiant act since his younger sister Yingluck was swept into power in elections in July.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/thaksin-lectures-cabinet-amid-calls-for-his-return-20110923-1kpbl.html#ixzz2ktRFtmoG

Edited November 17, 2013 by waza

[whybother]

PM wants peaceful Thailand, says govt believes Constitution Court on Nov 20 will carefully consider amendment on origin of senators /MCOT

It seems that there will be more protests regardless of which way the decision goes.

[thaicbr]

All of this fuss is about the old days. No one outside of the PTP wants to go forward into peaceful democracy which is the way of the civilised.

These days we have a Democratically elected government with a massive mandate. The PTP have a working relationship with all of the Thai institutions based on mutual respect and the rule of law.

Even the Thai Military are onside with mutual respect for the Thai government. Every rational human being in Thailand wants a two party democracy with a sound government and a robust opposition.

Thailand's current opposition has the other view and will not comply with the customs and Laws of a legitimate government opposition.

Now the democrat opposition are playing their self annihilation cards in the hope of removing the government illegally. Driven by their own failure, the democrats are determined to go down fighting, even if they have to take all of the colleagues down with them.

I appeal to Khunn Abhisit and Khun Suthep to stop the madness before it is too late.

Firstly the mutual respect bit, In the past 2 PTP budgets they slashed the operating budget for those institutions that have been problematic to PTP.

The Thai military are staying stumm as thats the best thing to do at the moment.

Thailand actually has a multi party democracy already (albeit fledgling) there are more than 2 parties in the parliament but you may not notice them as they have NO real party line other than power and money. Barnhan Silpa Archa's party has been in EVERY government since the inception of his party.

The PTP use the house speaker (who should be impartial) to ram rod debates through. Is that complying with customs and laws ?

The PTP got elected via a vote. a vote that we ALL know had vote buying involved.

any way. they won BUT and it is a big BUT there are over 16 million out of the 32 million that voted that did NOT vote for PTP.

SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_general_election,_2011

[Siripon]

All of this fuss is about the old days. No one outside of the PTP wants to go forward into peaceful democracy which is the way of the civilised.

These days we have a Democratically elected government with a massive mandate. The PTP have a working relationship with all of the Thai institutions based on mutual respect and the rule of law.

Even the Thai Military are onside with mutual respect for the Thai government. Every rational human being in Thailand wants a two party democracy with a sound government and a robust opposition.

Thailand's current opposition has the other view and will not comply with the customs and Laws of a legitimate government opposition.

Now the democrat opposition are playing their self annihilation cards in the hope of removing the government illegally. Driven by their own failure, the democrats are determined to go down fighting, even if they have to take all of the colleagues down with them.

I appeal to Khunn Abhisit and Khun Suthep to stop the madness before it is too late.

Firstly the mutual respect bit, In the past 2 PTP budgets they slashed the operating budget for those institutions that have been problematic to PTP.

The Thai military are staying stumm as thats the best thing to do at the moment.

Thailand actually has a multi party democracy already (albeit fledgling) there are more than 2 parties in the parliament but you may not notice them as they have NO real party line other than power and money. Barnhan Silpa Archa's party has been in EVERY government since the inception of his party.

The PTP use the house speaker (who should be impartial) to ram rod debates through. Is that complying with customs and laws ?

The PTP got elected via a vote. a vote that we ALL know had vote buying involved.

any way. they won BUT and it is a big BUT there are over 16 million out of the 32 million that voted that did NOT vote for PTP.

SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_general_election,_2011

Notice Somsak the House Speaker had a lot of difficulty accepting the envelope containing the vote of no confidence motion from Jurin yesterday.

Anything to protect Yingluck.

[473geo]

All of this fuss is about the old days. No one outside of the PTP wants to go forward into peaceful democracy which is the way of the civilised.

These days we have a Democratically elected government with a massive mandate. The PTP have a working relationship with all of the Thai institutions based on mutual respect and the rule of law.

Even the Thai Military are onside with mutual respect for the Thai government. Every rational human being in Thailand wants a two party democracy with a sound government and a robust opposition.

Thailand's current opposition has the other view and will not comply with the customs and Laws of a legitimate government opposition.

Now the democrat opposition are playing their self annihilation cards in the hope of removing the government illegally. Driven by their own failure, the democrats are determined to go down fighting, even if they have to take all of the colleagues down with them.

I appeal to Khunn Abhisit and Khun Suthep to stop the madness before it is too late.

Firstly the mutual respect bit, In the past 2 PTP budgets they slashed the operating budget for those institutions that have been problematic to PTP.

The Thai military are staying stumm as thats the best thing to do at the moment.

Thailand actually has a multi party democracy already (albeit fledgling) there are more than 2 parties in the parliament but you may not notice them as they have NO real party line other than power and money. Barnhan Silpa Archa's party has been in EVERY government since the inception of his party.

The PTP use the house speaker (who should be impartial) to ram rod debates through. Is that complying with customs and laws ?

The PTP got elected via a vote. a vote that we ALL know had vote buying involved.

any way. they won BUT and it is a big BUT there are over 16 million out of the 32 million that voted that did NOT vote for PTP.

SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_general_election,_2011

64% of the voting electorate did not vote for the democrats in the recent election, so who are you offering as an alternative?

[kimamey]

OK, lets amend my post to read:They didn't want an amnesty because that would mean Thaksin back. Thaksin back would entrench a PT government for at least a couple of parliamentary cycles, because of his enduring popularity with the electorate.

Secondly, I am suggesting that if the current government falls, then the court case will be dropped

Your are certainly right about his popularity with many of the voters but I don't think that Abhisit is too worried about a trial so long as it's fair.

I don't think it makes much difference if Thaksin is in Thailand or not when it comes to his influence. From what I've heard a lot of people voted PTP for various reasons related to him. It is his party, it will bring him back and it's his sister that would be PM so that's the next best thing until he returns. Why did they get Yingluck who had no experience or interest in politics to be PM? I would say it's because of the family name and she will do as Thaksin tells her until he can be brought back. Not really much else you would expect of someone thrust into a job they aren't equipped for.

You don't mention why you think the fall of the government would lead to the court case being dropped.

[thaicbr]

 

All of this fuss is about the old days. No one outside of the PTP wants to go forward into peaceful democracy which is the way of the civilised.

These days we have a Democratically elected government with a massive mandate. The PTP have a working relationship with all of the Thai institutions based on mutual respect and the rule of law.

Even the Thai Military are onside with mutual respect for the Thai government. Every rational human being in Thailand wants a two party democracy with a sound government and a robust opposition.

Thailand's current opposition has the other view and will not comply with the customs and Laws of a legitimate government opposition.

Now the democrat opposition are playing their self annihilation cards in the hope of removing the government illegally. Driven by their own failure, the democrats are determined to go down fighting, even if they have to take all of the colleagues down with them.

I appeal to Khunn Abhisit and Khun Suthep to stop the madness before it is too late.

 

Firstly the mutual respect bit, In the past 2 PTP budgets they slashed the operating budget for those institutions that have been problematic to PTP.

 

The Thai military are staying stumm as thats the best thing to do at the moment.

 

Thailand actually has a multi party democracy already (albeit fledgling) there are more than 2 parties in the parliament but you may not notice them as they have NO real party line other than power and money. Barnhan Silpa Archa's party has been in EVERY government since the inception of his party.

 

The PTP use the house speaker (who should be impartial) to ram rod debates through. Is that complying with customs and laws ?

 

The PTP got elected via a vote. a vote that we ALL know had vote buying involved.

 

any way. they won BUT and it is a big BUT there are over 16 million out of the 32 million that voted that did NOT vote for PTP.

 

SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_general_election,_2011

 

 

64% of the voting electorate did not vote for the democrats in the recent election, so who are you offering as an alternative?

 

What's your point?

My point is in a democracy its not enough JUST to win the election the government of the day needs to take the populations point of views into account. Hence my showing that half of the voting population did NOT vote for PTP.

That's why you have an opposition but it can only work IF the government follows the rule of law.

Sent from my phone with the app thingy.

[hammered]

It seems that three of the constitutional court judges were involved in writing the 2007 constitution. Should writers of laws be involved in interpreting them. The irony of this is that it is a case about separation of powers!

[hammered]

Interesting story in the Nation: Former drafters of 1997 charter tell Constitutional Court amendments not unconstitutional

[belg]

thai people at least

they know, paid or not,

to go take the streets when not happy with something

farangs in their country, only can moan on sites like these and complain like keyboard warriors

but do nothing to protest the many injustices, taxes, corruption, ............

[gemini81]

Well if the dems have to defend & fight these uneducated red neo-com feudal farmers, sure won't take much to outsmart them! (You could always outbid Thaksin to get them on your side....but would you want them?)

Edited November 19, 2013 by gemini81

[ratcatcher]

thai people at least

they know, paid or not,

to go take the streets when not happy with something

farangs in their country, only can moan on sites like these and complain like keyboard warriors

but do nothing to protest the many injustices, taxes, corruption, ............

You sir, must live in a small cave somewhere.. Take a look.

https://www.google.co.th/search?q=take+wall+street+protests+canada&espv=210&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=yhmLUpO0BsbZrQfi9oDIDg&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1024&bih=652

It's what people do when they are pissed off with a government, a system, a person. It's called "FREE SPEECH". And farangs know how to use it as well as the Thai people.