Suse 10.1

[yuyi]

SuSE 10.1 is coming out these days, and it is a real nice distro after a longer beta test.

I have SuSE 10.1 (i386) on a dedicated server in BKK, however I have the feeling that the promised bandwidth is not given. When i got it from an ultrafast server, it was incoming at just about ADSL speed. I wanna know now if that is also the limit when outgoing.

And to combine this test with something useful, I offer 2 or 3 of you guys (francois?) to get it from there, as long as you guys can do it all the same time, so I can see where the server is maxing out.

It is the Goldmaster version of SuSE (5CD ISOs), which is exactly the same as shipped. See the OpenSuSE website for details.

Send me a PM if you like, and I coordinate

Edited May 9, 2006 by yuyi

[tigerbeer]

SuSE 10.1 is coming out these days, and it is a real nice distro after a longer beta test.

I have SuSE 10.1 (i386) on a dedicated server in BKK, however I have the feeling that the promised bandwidth is not given. When i got it from an ultrafast server, it was incoming at just about ADSL speed. I wanna know now if that is also the limit when outgoing.

And to combine this test with something useful, I offer 2 or 3 of you guys (francois?) to get it from there, as long as you guys can do it all the same time, so I can see where the server is maxing out.

It is the Goldmaster version of SuSE (5CD ISOs), which is exactly the same as shipped. See the OpenSuSE website for details.

Send me a PM if you like, and I coordinate

Hi Yuyi,

I definately would not qualify for the slots that you have, but as a suggestion, why don't you release what you have as a torrent file? that way we could get the speed of torrents up. perhaps launch the torrent file on torrentspy or some other website of your choice for tracker. sure doesnt hit on anyone's bandwidth. if you should choose otherwise, i can offer you whatever space you want on my server. i have at least 10Gigs free and we can release it only for this forum members. i have 400 gigs of bandwidth on my server available per month. PM me and perhaps i can set up an ftp for you.

[yuyi]

SuSE 10.1 is coming out these days, and it is a real nice distro after a longer beta test.

I have SuSE 10.1 (i386) on a dedicated server in BKK, however I have the feeling that the promised bandwidth is not given. When i got it from an ultrafast server, it was incoming at just about ADSL speed. I wanna know now if that is also the limit when outgoing.

And to combine this test with something useful, I offer 2 or 3 of you guys (francois?) to get it from there, as long as you guys can do it all the same time, so I can see where the server is maxing out.

It is the Goldmaster version of SuSE (5CD ISOs), which is exactly the same as shipped. See the OpenSuSE website for details.

Send me a PM if you like, and I coordinate

Hi Yuyi,

I definately would not qualify for the slots that you have, but as a suggestion, why don't you release what you have as a torrent file? that way we could get the speed of torrents up. perhaps launch the torrent file on torrentspy or some other website of your choice for tracker. sure doesnt hit on anyone's bandwidth. if you should choose otherwise, i can offer you whatever space you want on my server. i have at least 10Gigs free and we can release it only for this forum members. i have 400 gigs of bandwidth on my server available per month. PM me and perhaps i can set up an ftp for you.

Hi tigerbeer,

I assume your server is in LOS, right? Then it can most probably participate at my personal test anyway. I'll pm you later.

Anyway, you're right, we should do this. My first thought was to see what my server has as _real_ bandwidth (space is not a problem), and the -secret- limit I've seen at incoming data might apply for International traffic only. See this test just a s a first step, and you're right, lets think further, and make a SuSE download hub here.

And just to avoid any misunderstanding, for any DRM freak running around, this is not only legal, but encouraged by Novell / SuSE itself, that's why they made OpenSuSE!

[tigerbeer]

Hi tigerbeer,

I assume your server is in LOS, right? Then it can most probably participate at my personal test anyway. I'll pm you later.

Anyway, you're right, we should do this. My first thought was to see what my server has as _real_ bandwidth (space is not a problem), and the -secret- limit I've seen at incoming data might apply for International traffic only. See this test just a s a first step, and you're right, lets think further, and make a SuSE download hub here.

And just to avoid any misunderstanding, for any DRM freak running around, this is not only legal, but encouraged by Novell / SuSE itself, that's why they made OpenSuSE!

YuYi,

no my server is in USA. its a hosting package but speed is as good as it gets with the current ISP's that we have. depends on what kind of connections the downloader has.

as far as bandwidth's are concerned, all inward, outward traffic regardless of where your server is counts towards your limit (if i am not mistaken). thats why i offered my server space. Total 5 CD would be 3.6Gigs for Suse. i have about 400GB of bandwidth, so i can offer at least 100 download sessions for this month.

then again i looked at Novell website just now and they are releasing it in 2 days time. so it beats the purpose. they would release it in torrents as am sure.

Edited May 9, 2006 by tigerbeer

[SMS]

This does seem an interesting test.

I have noticed bit torrent downloads from international to thailand are very slow. i.e. ISP throtling.

Me downloading the same stuff from a US server using bit torrent got me 16 to 20 KB/s and the same over http(using getright) fetches < 200 KB/s and ftp about 30 to 40 KB/s. All this from the same server.

[yuyi]

This does seem an interesting test.

I have noticed bit torrent downloads from international to thailand are very slow. i.e. ISP throtling.

Me downloading the same stuff from a US server using bit torrent got me 16 to 20 KB/s and the same over http(using getright) fetches < 200 KB/s and ftp about 30 to 40 KB/s. All this from the same server.

That describes a problem I see too.

Some international sites I can download with almost full speed, some others with just 20%. And it is not the sending site which puts on the brakes.

However all sites in LOS can get downloaded full speed. Example nectec, which mirrors a lot, example KDE for Linux, or from my own server. Never an International site, no matter how fast it is, reaches the download speed of a local site.

In this situation a download server in LOS is quite helpful

[yuyi]

Hi tigerbeer,

I assume your server is in LOS, right? Then it can most probably participate at my personal test anyway. I'll pm you later.

Anyway, you're right, we should do this. My first thought was to see what my server has as _real_ bandwidth (space is not a problem), and the -secret- limit I've seen at incoming data might apply for International traffic only. See this test just a s a first step, and you're right, lets think further, and make a SuSE download hub here.

And just to avoid any misunderstanding, for any DRM freak running around, this is not only legal, but encouraged by Novell / SuSE itself, that's why they made OpenSuSE!

YuYi,

no my server is in USA. its a hosting package but speed is as good as it gets with the current ISP's that we have. depends on what kind of connections the downloader has.

see other post, it is often a big difference if the server is in LOS or outside. TiT

as far as bandwidth's are concerned, all inward, outward traffic regardless of where your server is counts towards your limit (if i am not mistaken). thats why i offered my server space. Total 5 CD would be 3.6Gigs for Suse. i have about 400GB of bandwidth, so i can offer at least 100 download sessions for this month. then again i looked at Novell website just now and they are releasing it in 2 days time. so it beats the purpose. they would release it in torrents as am sure.

yes, that's right. However we are allowed to start seeding already. The Infrastructur / copying all to the right places, filling the installation trees, need some time that is why "in 2 days" - it has to be all ready for the downloading rally first.

I haven't checked how to use my server for seeding, but the location being in LOS might help for the ones seeing slowed down downloads from International. May be your server has a route to LOS without artificial slow down? Testing will show.

As I have never participated in any file sharing I'm not familiar with the process to set up a torrent. My available time will also not allow me to check today, but may be the day after tomorrow.

Tigerbeer,your server will surely be helpful to join the torrent. ... more later

[tigerbeer]

hi everyone,

well all we need is to host the tracker of the torrent on a server in LOS. thats it. i know how to make a torrent file out of a torrent client but don't know much about the tracker part. if its a local tracker, and most of the connections are within LOS, i believe we can achieve highest speed maximum.

perhaps u get two people to test your upload speed. count me out cause i would not be the right person to test the SUSE itself but perhaps someone like francoise? where are u. lol.

i however think one of us here is well versed in setting up a mini torrent tracker site. anyone?

[yuyi]

Well, the test was quite successfull in many way. We had the server at a download bandwidth of 6 Mbps for hours and no sign of slowing down. This means that hosting a site in Thailand for access from Thailand mainly is no problem, even in case of high traffic.

Thanks to all participants!

Now there was a sideffect, I could test the International bandwidth right away after the test of the domestic one, and I didn't even had to look for participants. One of the friendly participants in the first test obviously told about it to his best friend, and gave him the URL. Now this best friend did the same with another best friend, and so on, and when I checked today there was a constant download of 1 Mbps from these IPs:

62.149.10.178 Ukraine

80.141.32.173 Germany

84.182.233.227 Germany

200.50.123.205 Chile

82.99.161.74 Czech Republic

69.195.219.46 Canada

201.15.51.223 Brazil

202.142.106.10 India

84.178.228.62 Germany

69.230.179.172 United States

83.135.205.252 Germany

72.226.39.15 United States

87.122.32.209 Germany

84.179.147.199 Germany

88.152.183.148 Israel

172.173.125.112 United States

83.29.229.35 Poland

81.222.223.50 Russian Federation

83.22.138.105 Poland

202.142.83.77 India

202.142.99.75 India

84.56.28.237 Germany

62.77.53.208 Italy

80.156.11.222 Germany

83.27.22.193 Poland

193.109.90.101 Italy

...and so on

Well, friendship is International, best friends are everywhere!

Now this allowed me to see that while the domestic bandwidth limit is not reached even with 6 Mbps, the International bandwidth has a limit of 1 Mbps for outgoing and for incoming traffic. That's just ADSL 1024 speed

Well, sorry to all your International friends, I had to pull the plug to get some International bandwidth back for the commercial sites hosted there, and anyway the idea also never was to contribute to SuSE download capacity OUTSIDE of LOS.

I have been nasty though, I left the files visible, just not downloadable... Now, despite the message I put there saying that this is for Thailand downloads only, they come and try and try and try -- just now a new one, 193.109.238.110 from the United Kingdom

Another interesting note is that all downloads (as far as I checked)) have been from Windose, using getright. This gives us 2 messages:

1) Windows users can't read (the message there saying clearly that this is for Thailand only)

2) Windose users all over the world are so desperate to get SuSE Linux that they even try to download it from a small little server in Thailand

[francois]

hi'

my 2cts worth here ...

a valid address : http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1/iso/

download cd 1 to 5, have a 64b version and a mini image too ...

francois

ps; good download, mine went up to 2mb/s

[tigerbeer]

i'm downloading the 4th and 5th. CD right now. very good speeds indeed. am with CAT HiNet 2Mb. Maximum i get is 180kb/s download speed.

[francois]

hi'

it's not this bad

anyway, this link work, I'm upgrading now, and everything is fine, even wireless, I setup a card to test

francois