Jingthing Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 A baht bus driver violently attacked me in full view of several witnesses and then just drove off. He seemed oblivious of any possible consequences of his action. As there was no serious injury and my expectation that not only nothing would happen to him and indeed a fear of blowback upon myself I did not report this even though I have his truck number. Yes his motivation was a fare dispute but does that actually give these drivers a pass to attack people? His blows were forceful and could have caused serious injury but I guesd I am lucky that they didn't. Sent from my GT-S5360B using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tywais Posted December 3, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2013 You have the worse luck with baht busses JT. Armed bodyguard or chauffeur perhaps? Sorry for your encounter as I know it can leave one quite stressed. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gsxrnz Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 How much was the disputed amount? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post infinity11 Posted December 3, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2013 (edited) Was it worth it? To argue over 10 or 20 baht? Maybe there is a lesson in there somewhere? Best of luck next time. Pattya can be ruthless. It's a 'tough' town. Edited December 3, 2013 by infinity11 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 I refuse to discuss the trivial details of thr fare dispute. The only relevance it has I think is that IF he was arrested he would say he was justified. That's the issue I am raising here. Can these drivers always be a violent law to themselves when they have such excuses? Sent from my GT-S5360B using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gsxrnz Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 JT - how can you claim that he/they are above the law in this instance when you have not made the police aware of the assault. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitawatWatawit Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 The answer to your question is, yes they can be a violent law unto themselves. I think most people have heard enough and read enough stories about them to realise that. I was king-hit by a turd with legs for having the audacity to park my motorcycle on a public strip of road claimed by the baht buses as their private domain (where I parked was empty and had enough room for six buses). But it was the arrogant way in which he did it - whack!! smacked from behind, glasses flying 10 feet, and him screaming at me to move my bike and then sauntering away as if he did this 10 times every morning before breakfast. Everyone around me just turned away (as no doubt I would have done - who wants to mess with these nasty, scumbag f*ckers?). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 Note that at the time of the attack I did look for a cop but there was none. Not confident that catching him then would be a positive experience. I can imagine the cops saying it was my fault. Not questioning the driver believed he was right in the fare dispute ... am questioning how that justifies violence. If he really wanted to bully money out of me he could have just threatened to bash me and I would have quickly caved. This thug seemed to get pleasure from the violence more than money. Sent from my GT-S5360B using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinity11 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Where did you get on and off PLEASE? If it is in any way related to the corner of at pat thai and 2nd road then no surprise at all. They are LOOKING for fights there sometimes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post David48 Posted December 3, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2013 Note that at the time of the attack I did look for a cop but there was none. There is never a cop around when you need one! And when you don't ... they appear from the woodwork! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Sorry for your upsetting incident. TIT Weak rule of law leaves a gap which is filled by thuggery. This is well-known. If it is any consolation, it is much worse in Phuket. There is a chain of command that offers protection from the law for these drivers. If you know who is above him, you could speak to them or you could try the police, try city hall or try the press. I don't know what good it would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 There might be a clue here in how not to be seriously hurt if attacked by transport thugs. As I am not young or fit or a fast runner I did not resist the attacks. Now imagine if I had and hurt him. Then for sure he would have been aided by fellow transport types as we reas about in the news so often when victims are beaten to a pulp by instant mobs. This was of course not a planned tactic and if you have fighting skills it would be hard to not use them but I still think there is a clue here. Sent from my GT-S5360B using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelepulse Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Unless you know someone higher up in the brown uniforms than he does, nothing will come of it. If it's anything like in Phuket, these guys do pay a "fee" to the bibs every month which gives them protection and what they feel is the right to be a thug and not suffer any consequences. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 You have the worse luck with baht busses JT. Armed bodyguard or chauffeur perhaps? Sorry for your encounter as I know it can leave one quite stressed. Strangely I have never been accosted by a Baht Bus driver, nor have I ever been 86'd/banned from an eating establishment .... I have many things left on my bucket list but if I add those 2 they will only just make it to the list above "have bladder stones!" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 There might be a clue here in how not to be seriously hurt if attacked by transport thugs. As I am not young or fit or a fast runner I did not resist the attacks. Now imagine if I had and hurt him. Then for sure he would have been aided by fellow transport types as we reas about in the news so often when victims are beaten to a pulp by instant mobs. This was of course not a planned tactic and if you have fighting skills it would be hard to not use them but I still think there is a clue here. Sorry to hear about this. You must feel angry. You did well with your non-violent approach. Yes the clue is there to detect early enough the warning signs and step out of reach. Take care and get some rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted December 3, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2013 How on earth do you keep getting into trouble ? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I refuse to discuss the trivial details of thr fare dispute. The only relevance it has I think is that IF he was arrested he would say he was justified. That's the issue I am raising here. Can these drivers always be a violent law to themselves when they have such excuses? Sent from my GT-S5360B using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app I feel sure that physical assault can not be justified over a baht bus fare dispute. But, you will only find out if you report the incident to the police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 Thanks for sharing JD. But have you ever been date raped and/or gored by a bull? :mellow: Sent from my GT-S5360B using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 I could not have possibly stepped out of reach in this case. Run yes if fast enough. Sent from my GT-S5360B using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 I don't feel angry. More like shaken up and also lucky I was able to walk away from it though still sore physically. Sent from my GT-S5360B using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 (edited) I could not have possibly stepped out of reach in this case. Run yes if fast enough. In that case maybe you are looking for something like an Aikido type of self-defence. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzPj2xGr_Ig Edited December 3, 2013 by Morakot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk888 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 "violently attacked me" .............. "beat me up" .................... "no serious injury". So what was it actually? Just curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 Yes I know but there are limits. Like when that Bangkok cabbie killed an American. Sent from my GT-S5360B using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Totster Posted December 3, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2013 How on earth do you keep getting into trouble ? Oh c'mon.. a quick read through his previous topics/posts will answer that question... totster 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wooloomooloo Posted December 3, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2013 sorry you got attacked, but can't you tell us what actually happened? Yes, was it over five baht or ten baht? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 sorry you got attacked, but can't you tell us what actually happened? Yes, was it over five baht or ten baht? I imagine 3 bht............ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaPhom Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Without knowing what caused the dispute the driver cant be judged and accused of being above the law. Sent from my ST27a using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Without knowing what caused the dispute the driver cant be judged and accused of being above the law. Sent from my ST27a using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Without the law being brought into it the driver cannot be accused of being above the law. and JT I do not THINK I have ever been date raped, but generally I am willing if I went out on a date I have never been gored by a bull though, of that I am sure! If I were the age I was when I moved here I would add Pamplona to the bucket list though! Getting smacked over a fare dispute on a baht bus, or 86'd from an buffet would still rate lower than the colonoscopy I had, when it comes to a bucket list. Bad things do happen to good people ....... just not that often unless your name is Job. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooloomooloo Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Any chance he was related to the restaurant owner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MB1 Posted December 3, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2013 I refuse to discuss the trivial details of thr fare dispute. The only relevance it has I think is that IF he was arrested he would say he was justified. That's the issue I am raising here. Can these drivers always be a violent law to themselves when they have such excuses? Sent from my GT-S5360B using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app The thread you started reffered to a fare dispute mr jing so expect the trivial to be want to be discussed by some. You of all people should know by now that Thai's can become violent for little reason. I'm not condoning what the driver did to you, but I do believe that being as you did mention the fare dispute, then you spill the beans and let us all know what the dispute was all about. I've heard so many times on Thai visa and from people in Thailand saying "Avoid confrontation with Thai's" and maybe in this instance with regards to your new bahtbus expeirience you could have avoided what happened. Anyway Jing, IMO you have a right to complain to the Police and maybe you should, maybe the next person involved in a fare dispute with the man may not get off as lightly and may sustain serious injuriY... UP TO YOU Mr jING.. You don't seem to be having much luck on baht buses lately, maybe it's time you found another mode of transport, why not see if you can find a bike like Glittermans and become a new tourist attraction for Pattaya hey.. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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