DogNo1 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Wrong on two counts: It's Einstein and cataract operations involve the breaking up and sucking out of the lenses you are born with and replacing them with artificial lenses. Multifocal lenses are likely more expensive than single focal lenses but I don't know by how much. The poster's question was concerning the hospital's charge for single focal lenses, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger7Moth Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 (edited) I was told by Doc at Bangkok Pattaya that I had a cataract problem. I went to Rutnin and the Doc said my problem was slight and I might need surgery but not for at least 10 years. Previously, I had an eye infection and after seeing 3 Docs in Pattaya one of which was at Bangkok Pattaya, and suffering for 3 months, I went to Rutnin. There I had a test I had not had previously, was given medication different than I had been given previously and all was well within a couple of days. Edited December 11, 2013 by Tiger7Moth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 There is no doubt whatsoever that Pattaya docs serving international patients are overselling cataract surgery (as a generalization). However, if your cataracts are at the point of seriously restricting your life, then YOU will know without a doctor pushing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiBob Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I took a friend to BHP for an eye exam. He was having difficulty reading his computer screen. Diagnosis was cataracts, no surgery, follow up exams every 6 months or so. Doctor gave him new prescription for reading glasses and even helped complete online form for Zenni optical. Zenni is online lab and ships internationally at costs that are a fraction of glasses here in LOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombie nights Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 At about 6-7 years ago, BP Hospital would have been happy for me to have cataract surgery. Luckily I got a second opinion at Bumrungrad, and currently the diagnosis is no need for surgery. So I have my doubts about the trustworthiness of BPH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Looking that this another way, the majority of people will develop cataracts as they age and IF you live long enough, you probably will need surgery. I don't know that's it's the most horrible thing in the world to do the procedure earlier than is medically necessary as long as patients are well informed about their options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeseeker Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 (edited) Looking that this another way, the majority of people will develop cataracts as they age and IF you live long enough, you probably will need surgery. I don't know that's it's the most horrible thing in the world to do the procedure earlier than is medically necessary as long as patients are well informed about their options. All surgery carries risk and if it ain't necessary then don't do it. Edited December 11, 2013 by homeseeker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Looking that this another way, the majority of people will develop cataracts as they age and IF you live long enough, you probably will need surgery. I don't know that's it's the most horrible thing in the world to do the procedure earlier than is medically necessary as long as patients are well informed about their options. All surgery carries risk and if it ain't necessary then don't do it. It's not that simple. Modern cataract surgery is very low risk. If vision is impaired before surgery, it lowers quality of life, and of course wearing glasses and changing them. Yes it's optional unless you are going blind but this is a case of the patient being the one who knows best about the quality of life tradeoff of doing it or not doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regyai Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Yes I had mine done once my 'early stages' cataracts started large variances in one eye's prescription. I had worn corrective eyeglasses since early teens. On reflection I wish I could have had the procedure years ago without any consideration of cataracts. As an aside I could have had this done in the UK at NO cost, but opted for Pattaya Eye Centre as I had choice of lens type and could have both eyes done as one procedure . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiBob Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 In America, unlike Thailand, these procedures are done one eye at a time for safety reasons, if there is a problem you still have one eye without surgical problems. I had my right eye done first without any issues and I was anxiously looking forward to having my left eye done 30 days later. The second procedure was aborted prematurely as the sack surrounding the lens broke and the shattered lens fell back into the eye. Later that day I was taken from the microsurgery room to the full fledged operating table where a major eye operation was performed. So things can go wrong and performing both eyes simultaneously is not done in my home country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 Last week i said that i had just had an eye exam here in Pattaya at a private eye centre and was told that i had cataracts ,and it would cost 55k per eye and that one was worse than the other ,also gloucoma was alluded to ,it cost 2500 bat and the surgeon tried to get me to come in this week to have one eye done ,in the cost of the exam i was sold drops that i had to take for a week before the operation ,well today i attended the Queen Sirikit hospital after going there to make an appointment . it took four hours to see the doctor who practises here at a major hospital ,she was effecient and said that one eye was perfect and the other had the start of a cataract but nothing at all needs to be done as my sight is good ,the wife told her i was worried about gloucoma ,so she said make an appointment for two weeks time and when you arrive come to me straight away for me to put the drops in and then you will not have such a long wait for the exam. the sign as i left informed me that foreigners were charged 50% extra and so i was 400 baht in all. moral of the story ,the first doctor i saw at his private clinic i am informed does good work ,but like all private practice they seem only to be after your cash ,oh yes my wife got frienfly with a lady there that had had a cataract removed a couple of years ago ,she was Thai and was charged 3500 baht 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Yep. Patient beware! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted December 13, 2013 Author Share Posted December 13, 2013 Yep. Patient beware! It certainly seems that way ,at least i have saved myself 55k for the time being ,in fact years it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogNo1 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I had my cataracts removed when I was 69 at Bumrungrad, one eye at a time and, although both surgeries were successful, one was more difficult than the other and it took one much longer to heal. They're both in good shape now and I greatly appreciate the improved vision. I had put off having the cataracts done but the positive experiences of friends encouraged me to go ahead. I wish that I had done it ten years earlier. I'm not sure why, but I wasn't offered multifocal lenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aveabeeror2 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Wrong on two counts: It's Einstein and cataract operations involve the breaking up and sucking out of the lenses you are born with and replacing them with artificial lenses. Multifocal lenses are likely more expensive than single focal lenses but I don't know by how much. The poster's question was concerning the hospital's charge for single focal lenses, I think.. You obviously have reading difficulties.first,I called for the spelling police,second, I said I had detached retinas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aveabeeror2 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Last week i said that i had just had an eye exam here in Pattaya at a private eye centre and was told that i had cataracts ,and it would cost 55k per eye and that one was worse than the other ,also gloucoma was alluded to ,it cost 2500 bat and the surgeon tried to get me to come in this week to have one eye done ,in the cost of the exam i was sold drops that i had to take for a week before the operation ,well today i attended the Queen Sirikit hospital after going there to make an appointment . it took four hours to see the doctor who practises here at a major hospital ,she was effecient and said that one eye was perfect and the other had the start of a cataract but nothing at all needs to be done as my sight is good ,the wife told her i was worried about gloucoma ,so she said make an appointment for two weeks time and when you arrive come to me straight away for me to put the drops in and then you will not have such a long wait for the exam. the sign as i left informed me that foreigners were charged 50% extra and so i was 400 baht in all. moral of the story ,the first doctor i saw at his private clinic i am informed does good work ,but like all private practice they seem only to be after your cash ,oh yes my wife got frienfly with a lady there that had had a cataract removed a couple of years ago ,she was Thai and was charged 3500 baht . I told you to go to Rutnin. Some people just can't be told anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted December 14, 2013 Author Share Posted December 14, 2013 Last week i said that i had just had an eye exam here in Pattaya at a private eye centre and was told that i had cataracts ,and it would cost 55k per eye and that one was worse than the other ,also gloucoma was alluded to ,it cost 2500 bat and the surgeon tried to get me to come in this week to have one eye done ,in the cost of the exam i was sold drops that i had to take for a week before the operation ,well today i attended the Queen Sirikit hospital after going there to make an appointment . it took four hours to see the doctor who practises here at a major hospital ,she was effecient and said that one eye was perfect and the other had the start of a cataract but nothing at all needs to be done as my sight is good ,the wife told her i was worried about gloucoma ,so she said make an appointment for two weeks time and when you arrive come to me straight away for me to put the drops in and then you will not have such a long wait for the exam. the sign as i left informed me that foreigners were charged 50% extra and so i was 400 baht in all. moral of the story ,the first doctor i saw at his private clinic i am informed does good work ,but like all private practice they seem only to be after your cash ,oh yes my wife got frienfly with a lady there that had had a cataract removed a couple of years ago ,she was Thai and was charged 3500 baht . I told you to go to Rutnin. Some people just can't be told anything. Why should i go to Rutanin ,when i have been given the all clear ,? i do not dispute that they are world class ,but Queen sirikit were efficient and the doctor who saw me works at a major hospital as an eye surgeon ,i checked her out on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aveabeeror2 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Looking that this another way, the majority of people will develop cataracts as they age and IF you live long enough, you probably will need surgery. I don't know that's it's the most horrible thing in the world to do the procedure earlier than is medically necessary as long as patients are well informed about their options. . From food expert to eye expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aveabeeror2 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Last week i said that i had just had an eye exam here in Pattaya at a private eye centre and was told that i had cataracts ,and it would cost 55k per eye and that one was worse than the other ,also gloucoma was alluded to ,it cost 2500 bat and the surgeon tried to get me to come in this week to have one eye done ,in the cost of the exam i was sold drops that i had to take for a week before the operation ,well today i attended the Queen Sirikit hospital after going there to make an appointment . it took four hours to see the doctor who practises here at a major hospital ,she was effecient and said that one eye was perfect and the other had the start of a cataract but nothing at all needs to be done as my sight is good ,the wife told her i was worried about gloucoma ,so she said make an appointment for two weeks time and when you arrive come to me straight away for me to put the drops in and then you will not have such a long wait for the exam. the sign as i left informed me that foreigners were charged 50% extra and so i was 400 baht in all. moral of the story ,the first doctor i saw at his private clinic i am informed does good work ,but like all private practice they seem only to be after your cash ,oh yes my wife got frienfly with a lady there that had had a cataract removed a couple of years ago ,she was Thai and was charged 3500 baht . I told you to go to Rutnin. Some people just can't be told anything. Why should i go to Rutanin ,when i have been given the all clear ,? i do not dispute that they are world class ,but Queen sirikit were efficient and the doctor who saw me works at a major hospital as an eye surgeon ,i checked her out on the internet.. When you say the Internet,did that mean Thaivisa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Looking that this another way, the majority of people will develop cataracts as they age and IF you live long enough, you probably will need surgery. I don't know that's it's the most horrible thing in the world to do the procedure earlier than is medically necessary as long as patients are well informed about their options. . From food expert to eye expert. And your point is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 Last week i said that i had just had an eye exam here in Pattaya at a private eye centre and was told that i had cataracts ,and it would cost 55k per eye and that one was worse than the other ,also gloucoma was alluded to ,it cost 2500 bat and the surgeon tried to get me to come in this week to have one eye done ,in the cost of the exam i was sold drops that i had to take for a week before the operation ,well today i attended the Queen Sirikit hospital after going there to make an appointment . it took four hours to see the doctor who practises here at a major hospital ,she was effecient and said that one eye was perfect and the other had the start of a cataract but nothing at all needs to be done as my sight is good ,the wife told her i was worried about gloucoma ,so she said make an appointment for two weeks time and when you arrive come to me straight away for me to put the drops in and then you will not have such a long wait for the exam. the sign as i left informed me that foreigners were charged 50% extra and so i was 400 baht in all. moral of the story ,the first doctor i saw at his private clinic i am informed does good work ,but like all private practice they seem only to be after your cash ,oh yes my wife got frienfly with a lady there that had had a cataract removed a couple of years ago ,she was Thai and was charged 3500 baht . I told you to go to Rutnin. Some people just can't be told anything. Why should i go to Rutanin ,when i have been given the all clear ,? i do not dispute that they are world class ,but Queen sirikit were efficient and the doctor who saw me works at a major hospital as an eye surgeon ,i checked her out on the internet.. When you say the Internet,did that mean Thaivisa? I did look on Thaivisa but it was mainly the hospital websites as i really did not know a lot about cataracts and wished to find out ,i also looked up some Thai hospitals , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 A post with messed up quotes removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogNo1 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Aveabeeror2: You did mention that you had a detached retina that was not dected but the thread is about cataracts and the question was about the price of single-focals versus mul!tificals. And the spelling police have determined the famous physicists name is spelled Einstein. No fine this time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aveabeeror2 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Aveabeeror2: You did mention that you had a detached retina that was not dected but the thread is about cataracts and the question was about the price of single-focals versus mul!tificals. And the spelling police have determined the famous physicists name is spelled Einstein. No fine this time! your not getting away with this slant at my integrity.off topic! What about all the wxxxxxs still going on about beach road,I didn't open Pandoras Box. Having said that, me not off topic, I was telling op to go to rutnin eye hospital. And as for spellink police,again, just giving the wxxxxxs something to do. ( their grammar must be lacking,none of them have picked up on there instead of their which is in many posts.). They should go back to where they came from,you too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonaldBattles Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Most Provinces have a major hospital in the capitol. Cataract surgery is common in these hospitals and the doctors are highly skilled. The operating room equipment is probably state of the art. These is the least expensive approach to getting the surgery done. In Chiang Rai they average 15 surgeries on the days that they do this procedure. They want you to sleep in the hospital the night before. It is common after this surgery for one eye to get cloudy like mine. They do a simple laser procedure to remove the opacity. I know several people who had to have this done. After 3 years of being over charged and jerked around by Rutinin and finally telling me it was to late to do the surgery I left then and now my sight in both eyes is OK and I don't need reading glasses. My age is 80 and I had both eyes done last year. Rutinin is like a factory operation. It is full of middle eastern people daily. However, I know that many people have been satisfied with their service there. For people on limited pensions I feel you are better off at the government hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Off topic post discussing clinics in USA removed, Please do not hijack the topic, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted January 30, 2014 Author Share Posted January 30, 2014 Here is an update on my cataract problem ,as i first said i was quoted 55 000 baht to have my cataract done by an eye specialist here in Pattaya ,so went to the Queen Sirikit navel hospital in Satahip ,on my third visit the other day and having masses of eye tests ,as i was afraid of gloucoma (the first guy had mentioned it) i have been told that the cataract is not ready to be operated on ,it should be years yet ,if i dont die first ,i do have a slightly enlarged optic nerve in one eye and slightly raised pressure in both eyes ,the doctor said not to worry(she practises in a major hospital here in Pattaya privatly) but as i was a little anxious she prescribed eye drops to lower the pressure ,the total cost for 3 visits and 3 months supply of the drops has been about 5500 baht ,i am most immpressed ,my next appointment is in 3 months ,while the service is not as fast as BPH or as flash ,it is as good as any NHS hospital in the UK . hope this might help someone 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford8 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) Queen Sirikit is very good, although I have not had eye surgery there. Just be prepared for very long waits, allot the whole day. eg last week I got there at 8:00, had 2 consultations (same issue) each lasting about 2 minutes,an appointment was made for surgery. I left at 3 pm. This is NOT a complaint, Also I have been to Rutinin, diagnoses only, and thought they were excellent. Edited January 31, 2014 by ford8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) Check out this cataract simulator to get a rough idea of how advanced your cataracts are, if any. As I'm correcting for them with glasses, obviously I wear the glasses when looking at the simulator. Then look at the most healthy setting without glasses to MATCH the level of clouding. It really works well. Obviously, see a doctor for specific advice, blah blah blah ... http://www.geteyesmart.org/eyesmart/diseases/cataracts/vision-simulator.cfm Edited March 12, 2014 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 I have nio clouding at all ,but if i look at it with my right eye i have slight double vision ,but ok if i use both eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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