Tambean Bahn yellow house book

[lungpeter]

Hi. I don`t know if I am in the right forum.we are a Europeen couple and we build a house in a compound. the house is ours but not the ground. we are three parties and the owner of the whole compound is one of us. Thai. there is no problem with the owner I only need to know what kind of documents do we need to get the yellow house book. one of us is working with WP and the other is on a dependent visa.we are married.

I need the information also for the authoroties ,I live upcountry and there are almost no other Falangs around.

Thanks in advance

lungpeter

[Mario2008]

Requirement depend on your local district office, talk to them first.

A house book should come with the house, as owners of the house you should have a blue book (to register a Thai person in). You yourself should indeed be registered in the yellow book.

What is required depends on the district office:

- included will be permission from the owner of the house

- copy of your passport (sometimes they will want a translation of it, often also certified).

- cost should be zero or below 100 baht

And many more depending on the district office.

[asiaexpat]

This manual may help when you talk with the District Office. n english version is online as I recall.

My District Office required a copy of my passport certified by my embassy and MFA alone with 6 pictures, my wife's TB and ID, marriage certificate, two witness (used family members) and an interview that was recorded on a form that I signed.

Hope this helps.

BORA Manual.pdf

[Postmaster]

I have only ever had a BLUE BOOK ( for a condominium in thai company Name ) Should I be looking to get this changed to a Yellow Book ?

Thanks anyone

[Mario2008]

I have only ever had a BLUE BOOK ( for a condominium in thai company Name ) Should I be looking to get this changed to a Yellow Book ?

Thanks anyone

No, you do not need to change it. The book belongs to the company, and can be used to register people on that address with permission of the company.

If you yourself will want to be registered as living on that adress, than you will need permission from the company to be added and for that (as a foriegner) the company will also get a yellow book where you and any other foreigners can be registered in.

[KhunBENQ]

No! A yellow book is only an additional book intended for foreigners only (non Thais).

Its derived from the blue book (tabien ban) which is mandatory for every house.

There were some threads about the YB recently.

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Before preparing unnecessary documents (like certification of translation from the Embassy, in my case a simple translation from a local certified translator was sufficient):

find a Thai speaking interpreter and visit the Amphoe office and ask them about the documents they expect.

If possible invite the house owner (Thai) to go with you.

Unfortunately there is no 100% list/rule.

Some Amphoes: quick and easy,

Others have no clue, invite all kinds of strange requirements.

Edited December 16, 2013 by KhunBENQ

[ubonjoe]

It would be in addition to your blue book. Unless you plan on doing a lot of things that require proof of residency it really is not necessary.

[KhunBENQ]

It would be in addition to your blue book. Unless you plan on doing a lot of things that require proof of residency it really is not necessary.

If its too difficult/hard to get at your Amphoe you might better give up.

If its easy: get it.

At least you can use it every 90 days and every year at the immigration office (90 day report, extension).

Other usage: buying/registering car/bike, obtaining driver license, opening bank account ...

Recent threads about the yellow book (worth reading in my opinion):

Obtaining a yellow house book, my experience:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/688546-obtaining-a-yellow-house-book-my-experience/

Yellow Book And Blue Book:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/641912-yellow-book-and-blue-book/

Edited December 16, 2013 by KhunBENQ

[Postmaster]

Moderators. Thanks a lot. Very helpful. Ok I am Managing Director of my Thai Company ( for condo purchase ) so I will obviously give myself permission to stay at my condo. Where, then, now, shall I go to get the The Yellow Book and my name entered into it ?

Again, thanks in anticipation.

[Mario2008]

The amphur (district office) is the place to get it.

[shaurene]

I have a house in Khon Kaen in my wife's name (Thai) she has blue book, she took my passport to the land office and applied for yellow book for me and it arrived within couple weeks I never had to go down there.

[KhunBENQ]

I have a house in Khon Kaen in my wife's name (Thai) she has blue book, she took my passport to the land office and applied for yellow book for me and it arrived within couple weeks I never had to go down there.

Married with a Thai, marriage registered in Thailand (at the Amphoe) often make things easier, because all the necessary translations (your name, nationality, birth place, fathers name/nationality, mothers name/nationality) might already be stated in the marriage documents.

Not that easy for a foreign couple.

I would expect that at least simple passport and birth certificate translations will be required.

Land office; NO! Definitely at the Amphoe (district office, citizens register), Same place where Thais get their ID cards.

Amphoe (Amphur):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphoe

The administration of the district is housed in an office building called Thi wa kan Amphoe (ที่ว่าการอำเภอ), which also marks the center of each district. Distances on road signs are always calculated to this office building. The office is usually located in the largest settlement of the district, to make it easily reachable for the majority of the population – one of the tasks of the Amphoe is the civil registry, which makes the district the most important of the administrative levels for the general Thai people.

Edited December 16, 2013 by KhunBENQ

[zyphodb]

Depending on your local Amphoe you might have to pay tea money to the head honcho to get him to sign the paperwork at the Amphoe, our local thief wants, (& gets) 1000Bhts for signing the paperwork for a yellow book, & I'm sure that he's not the only one...

[KhunBENQ]

I was lucky to be asked the normal fee (?) of 20 Baht only.

Gave him 200 Baht as a tip (no head, just a regular officer),

The real cost is translation, transport and maybe entertaining Thai people joining you as witnesses/counter signees.

For a farang couple quite likely they want witness(es) (like the home owner/house master) to attend.

"Master": person in the blue book with "master" status.

Edited December 16, 2013 by KhunBENQ

[khunPer]

This manual may help when you talk with the District Office. n english version is online as I recall.

My District Office required a copy of my passport certified by my embassy and MFA alone with 6 pictures, my wife's TB and ID, marriage certificate, two witness (used family members) and an interview that was recorded on a form that I signed.

Hope this helps.

I was asked something similar. The Passport translation had to be done by a certified person, in my case we found a lawyer having the approval and correct stamps. I got a huge folder back with lots of official statements (presumably the approval documents) and a bill of 6,000 baht (not to argue about, I needed the approved translation). Important advice: Have someone else check you name is correctly translated to Thai characters (before the lawyer or authorised person make the document folder), as it may be complicated to change later.

One of the witnesses had to be a government employed person (can be a teacher, health personal, policeman etc.), I got Head of Village, who knows me, to be that witness; the other witness should a neighbour who knew me well.

I needed my GF to join me and bring the Blue House Book – in which she and our daughter are stated – as we got that already from when finishing our house.

A quite long interview, almost like what I have read about when applying for permanent residency (why I want to stay in Thailand, how I can contribute to Thailand… etc. etc.), which was recorded in Thai, signed by me and attached to my growing file of various papers and copies.

I made an appointment in advance, so the witnesses did not have to wait too long time. Very kind service and no problems, but lots of formalities; took some three hours in all. Some places a “VIP-fee” may help and smoothen or speed up the process.

[Khunangkaro]

As far as I remember Immigration Amnat Charoen never asked proof of adress and always denied copies of yellow housebook.

Book easy to get at my Amphor and very useful in many occasions. Although all necessary data available in marriage documents, a translation of passport was asked and made very nice looking by some lady in Ubon and accepted as such without legislation.

Needed for drivers license which now has preference above housebook. Drivers license front side has very clear writing of data in Thai and English and address in Thai on the back.

Edited December 16, 2013 by Khunangkaro

[Khunangkaro]

BTW, fee for housebook 20baht. Fee for translation passport 100baht. Former schoolmates of my wife now employed at Amphor were happy to function as witnesses. Of course brought my wife and copy of her blue housebook.

[KhunBENQ]

It is quite "amusing" to read the different storys that lead to a simple administrative deed (registering a foreigner in the citizen database and assigning him an address, proven by the YB).

So I was lucky, Just took my wife,

No interview that I am aware of ("why I [swiss] don't have a swiss watch", "why I like Thailand" is obviously smalltalk).

In and out in about an hour (small Amphoe in the west of Khon Kaen).

[Carrerakiss]

Udon Amphur have a preprinted little slip of paper listing 7 requirements. Translation of passport but not certified, marriage cert, wife's ID card and blue book, Headman from the village must attend as well, plus a translation of my mother and fathers names into Thai. Also a small interview asking fairly simple questions.

Have to make an appointment in advance, just two days notice.

[CM4Me]

I have just bought a condo, from a falang that lives overseas. The electricity account is in her name, as is the meter deposit. With my passport and the chanote I visited the local PEA to change all into my name, & was advised that I need a yellow house book.

More recently I visited the Amphur Office & was told that I need

* A letter from Immigration (as proof of my residential address )

* A copy of my passport

* A copy of the Chanote

*A copy of the Blue House Book,

* Two witnesses

and that I will need an interview.

TIT

[KhunBENQ]

* A letter from Immigration (as proof of my residential address )

* A copy of the Chanote

Yep, I had this too and showed it (the only document that I had prepared in advance).

I am not really certain whether they were interested in.

The letter also states your visa/extension status.

Chanote was never asked for in my case.

As you see: each office to its own

[rawhod]

I have tried three times at our district office in Kawila, Chiang Mai but they keep moving the goalposts by demanding more documentation and more witnesses.

The last, third time, I had all the documentation they had demanded on the previous visit plus the two witnesses they required,.. but then they wanted a witness who was a government employee...so I've given up for now

[Langsuan Man]

I have just bought a condo, from a falang that lives overseas. The electricity account is in her name, as is the meter deposit. With my passport and the chanote I visited the local PEA to change all into my name, & was advised that I need a yellow house book.

More recently I visited the Amphur Office & was told that I need

* A letter from Immigration (as proof of my residential address )

* A copy of my passport

* A copy of the Chanote

*A copy of the Blue House Book,

* Two witnesses

and that I will need an interview.

TIT

You are going to jump through these hoops because you didn't get the owner (or her representative with a power of attorney) to go with you to PEA to have everything changed over to you. Major mistake IMHO.

If you used a lawyer to do the transfer I would get a hold of them first and see what they can do.

Unless you have at least one utility bill in your name (water, phone, Internet, etc.) I don't see how you are going to get a "letter" from Immigration as proof of your residential address. Maybe someone else has a solution to your problem since I see getting a Yellow Book as a PITA and have never heard of it being the only way to get electricity in your name

[sailor59]

No! A yellow book is only an additional book intended for foreigners only (non Thais).

Its derived from the blue book (tabien ban) which is mandatory for every house.

There were some threads about the YB recently.

---------------------

Before preparing unnecessary documents (like certification of translation from the Embassy, in my case a simple translation from a local certified translator was sufficient):

find a Thai speaking interpreter and visit the Amphoe office and ask them about the documents they expect.

If possible invite the house owner (Thai) to go with you.

Unfortunately there is no 100% list/rule.

Some Amphoes: quick and easy,

Others have no clue, invite all kinds of strange requirements.

When I registered at my wife's parent's house a few years back, they asked me besides passport, marriage cert. etc. and for my parent's birth certificates!! I said that there is no way to go thru all this and they settle for 100 baht for each certificate.

Sometimes corruption is good!