Black magic, or sorcery, in LOS. Believe in it?

[quiuvo]

wêet-mon or sai yaa sat, (spell?)

do you believe in it? My ex told me my new girlfriend put a spell on me and that is why I left her. I don't believe in it but I feel like my new girlfriend controls me. Maybe I am pussy whipped?

Buriram is apparently the place where you can get someone to do the sorcery. Black magic woman is the name of a song.

I may have to get a potion to counter it if i feel weak on the knees etc..

[beachproperty]

Power of the Mind!....believe what you will BUT the mind is a powerful instrument. The Thai's apparently believe in many things western minds can't comprehend or accept ( its called education).

That being said ......as educated as we (westerners) may be there are many things we still can't explain .....oh well....So who are we to say the Thai's are wrong...or that sorcery doesn't exist.

Personally I just look the other way ....ignore it....and go on with life.

As for your girlfriend controlling you ....its that little patch between her legs that gives her control over you ....and she knows it ...just like in the rest of the world.

There is always a Queen behind the King telling him what to do ...But in public the smart Queen lets the King "think" he's in control...

Its called LIFE!

[celso]

I believe in science.

[Kangawallafox]

Surin are into the magic quite a lot.

[lanng khao]

Buriram full of the undead and vampires didn't ya know? That's why they piss out the window in the middle of the night because there shit scared to go the hong nam,wish they would of told me,save me gettin a Golding shower off the old mother on me way back,and am not taken the piss.,

[quiuvo]

I should not believe in this but I must start thinking more about it. Why am I so attached to this one lady in particular? She is not beautiful. I had great ones. Yet I feel she is the one for me.

[cooked]

Magic works if you believe in it. Strong (obstinate) characters can handle it.

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[lanng khao]

A woman who swallows the evidence is pretty we'll a keeper in my eyes.maybe it's windy walks in your case.

[Costas2008]

lanng khao, on 30 Dec 2013 - 21:40, said:

A woman who swallows the evidence is pretty we'll a keeper in my eyes.maybe it's windy walks in your case.

You should have told that to Monica Lewinsky.

Can't understand all of it but the beginning is sufficient.

[quiuvo]

Windy walks? Explain?

[lanng khao]

Monica was brought up the right way,taught never to talk with her mouth full,and windy walks are for people who enjoy walks down country lanes holdin hands in the wind and rain etc,not my cup of tea.

[mimithewoof]

Yes - we have a lesser version in the West, we call it coincidence - of which, of course, there's no such thing, according to unbelievers!

[David48]

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[phitsanulokjohn]

A load of old bolony.I trust and believe in God and God alone,and through my belief, God has blessed me with a most fortunate life and is sufficent for me.

[DoctorG]

A load of old bolony.I trust and believe in God and God alone,and through my belief, God has blessed me with a most fortunate life and is sufficent for me.

555 I really hope that you are just taking the pizz.

[richard10365]

I believe in what my 5 senses can perceive and what science has proven to be a fact.

I believe when you die, your life ends. There is no heaven or hell. There is no coming back and there are definitely no such things as a ghost. If there were, with science what it is today, we would know about it.

I think there would be less wars if people truly believed there was only one life and if you die, you cease to exist for all eternity. People would be more careful and nicer because they would not want some crazy person to loose their mind and end their life.

This is the only life you have and the reasons for the decisions we make in this life should only do with making this life better for ourselves or the ones we love. Making decisions in this life for a imaginary life beyond does not make any sense. It is a waste of often money, time and energy.

However, to each his (her) own. If believing in a higher power, god, or after life gives you comfort in this present life, then I will not stop you from living in this fantasy (the faculty or activity of imagining things, esp. things that are impossible or improbable) world. Just be careful your spiritual decisions don't impact my present real life decisions. Therein lies the possibility of an offense being taken.

[chrisrazz]

I wholeheartedly believe that the people of LOS believe in magic. There has been a story doing the rounds for some years that the problems facing the nation are due to bad karma as a result of magic.

Edited December 31, 2013 by chrisrazz

[HUAHIN62]

The 2013 Harris poll in the US found that 42% of Americans believe in ghost and 26% in witches, so your ex is in good company.

[bifftastic]

A load of old bolony.I trust and believe in God and God alone,and through my belief, God has blessed me with a most fortunate life and is sufficent for me.

Same same but different.

People can believe in magic if they want. There's lots of different sorts of magic, Christian magic, Thai magic, all of it is in the minds of the people who believe in it.

If your mind is susceptible to influence, then you will experience the 'effects' of these beliefs.

If you are exposed to other people who believe in these things, then you might start to empathise.

If your ex says that your new girlfriend put a spell on you, it's likely that she can't believe that you left her for any other reason.

It's also possible that she is putting doubt into your mind so that you will consider going back to her.

One magic that many men are susceptible to is women's 'magic' and the spells they weave to amuse themselves at men as they lead us a merry dance.

Mind games, nothing but mind games. If you are in control of your mind, they don't work.

[OmegaRacer]

My experience is that people who believe only in science and are atheists are far more narrow minded than people who believe that there are things in life we just can't rationalize and reduce with science.

I value science for its great achievements, but it's wrong to apply those scientific rules to everything. Once these people can't get a straight and easily digestible answer, they simply declare that such phenomena don't exist.

This, in my opinion, is in stark contrast to what a scientific mind should do...keep an open mind and explore all possibilities, as far fetched as they might seem.

Remember, we only have a tiny part of the truth, so when you say "There's no life after death", you should mark this as your personal opinion and not declare it as an absolute truth, because in the end, you have no way of knowing.

[richard10365]

I believe=In my personal opinion

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[quiuvo]

A load of old bolony.I trust and believe in God and God alone,and through my belief, God has blessed me with a most fortunate life and is sufficent for me.

Same same but different.

People can believe in magic if they want. There's lots of different sorts of magic, Christian magic, Thai magic, all of it is in the minds of the people who believe in it.

If your mind is susceptible to influence, then you will experience the 'effects' of these beliefs.

If you are exposed to other people who believe in these things, then you might start to empathise.

If your ex says that your new girlfriend put a spell on you, it's likely that she can't believe that you left her for any other reason.

It's also possible that she is putting doubt into your mind so that you will consider going back to her.

One magic that many men are susceptible to is women's 'magic' and the spells they weave to amuse themselves at men as they lead us a merry dance.

Mind games, nothing but mind games. If you are in control of your mind, they don't work.

Great post. Thanks. I think if people believe there is a good god then they must admit that there is a bad xx

[attrayant]

My experience is that people who believe only in science and are atheists are far more narrow minded than people who believe that there are things in life we just can't rationalize and reduce with science.

That's fine, as long as you realize that your experience is anecdotal.

I value science for its great achievements, but it's wrong to apply those scientific rules to everything.

Wrong according to whom? Has some phenomena that does not obey the physical laws of nature been documented? Remember: unexplained does not mean unexplainable.

Once these people can't get a straight and easily digestible answer, they simply declare that such phenomena don't exist.

Who are "these people"?

This, in my opinion, is in stark contrast to what a scientific mind should do...keep an open mind and explore all possibilities, as far fetched as they might seem.

On this point we agree. Being skeptical and following the tenets of science means that one should be open minded - but we must be careful not to be so open minded that our brains fall out of our skulls. In those cases, we tend to believe any fool thing we can imagine (or that is imagined for us).

When discussions like these crop up, I like to retell the story of N-Rays. In the early 1900's, French scientist René Blondlot thought he had discovered a new type of electromagnetic radiation. While some scientists were able to reproduce his results, quite a few notable physicists were not. He became so beholden to his discovery that he refused to consider the existence of N-Rays might be all in his imagination (which of course, it was). The lesson is that scientists can also be victims of their own closed-mindedness. This is why we have the peer review process for scientific discoveries and validation of hypotheses.

[jonesthebaker]

A load of old bolony.I trust and believe in God and God alone,and through my belief, God has blessed me with a most fortunate life and is sufficent for me.

well now John, i also believe in a creator as such, but i haven't encountered him/her/it. have you or is your faith simply blind faith? with regards to black magic i have experienced it first hand and actually have documentary evidence. so it is 100% for me.

[jonesthebaker]

I believe in what my 5 senses can perceive and what science has proven to be a fact.

I believe when you die, your life ends. There is no heaven or hell. There is no coming back and there are definitely no such things as a ghost. If there were, with science what it is today, we would know about it.

I think there would be less wars if people truly believed there was only one life and if you die, you cease to exist for all eternity. People would be more careful and nicer because they would not want some crazy person to loose their mind and end their life.

This is the only life you have and the reasons for the decisions we make in this life should only do with making this life better for ourselves or the ones we love. Making decisions in this life for a imaginary life beyond does not make any sense. It is a waste of often money, time and energy.

However, to each his (her) own. If believing in a higher power, god, or after life gives you comfort in this present life, then I will not stop you from living in this fantasy (the faculty or activity of imagining things, esp. things that are impossible or improbable) world. Just be careful your spiritual decisions don't impact my present real life decisions. Therein lies the possibility of an offense being taken.

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'I think there would be less wars if people truly believed there was only one life and if you die,' .....

surely if people believed in a just God then they woulndt commit evil acts for fear of retribution.

[Ajaan]

All of the incessant Thai babbling about "Khmer black magic" is just racist denigration of the Khmers as the mysterious, dark-skinned "other" who have "mystical powers" to hurt, deceive, etc., the "civilized" Thais.

This is the same old story around the world, some minority group in your country/inhabitants of a poorer neighboring country are invariably branded as possessing some sort of evil magic/trickery. Just take out "Khmer" and insert "Gypsies," "Jews," etc., depending on where you live and whom you choose to hate...just the same old racist bullshit.

Edited December 31, 2013 by Ajaan

[attrayant]

[Continuing the reply below, as the forum seems to have a limitation on the number of quoted blocks of text per post]

Remember, we only have a tiny part of the truth

I prefer to call it "a piece of the puzzle". We must tread cautiously when we have only one or two pieces of the puzzle, and refrain from drawing conclusions (in either direction). But as we collect more pieces of the puzzle, we begin to form a testable hypothesis that may eventually lead to a scientific theory.

Equally wrong are those who might say "you don't have all the pieces of the puzzle, so your hypothesis is flawed!" This is like saying "you're missing a few pieces of the puzzle, so that's not the Mona Lisa!

when you say "There's no life after death", you should mark this as your personal opinion and not declare it as an absolute truth, because in the end, you have no way of knowing.

I'm not sure who you're directing this at, as nobody here has said anything about life after death. The best that can be said is that we don't know one way or the other, so we leave the burden of proof on the shoulders of anybody who makes the claim that there is life after death.

[attrayant]

A load of old bolony. I trust and believe in God and God alone,and through my belief, God has blessed me with a most fortunate life and is sufficent for me.

Not sure if you're being serious, but in case you are: There are several references to witchcraft and magic in the Christian bible, most notably in Deuteronomy and Exodus. Please reconcile that and get back to us.

[OmegaRacer]

I believe in what my 5 senses can perceive and what science has proven to be a fact.

I believe when you die, your life ends. There is no heaven or hell. There is no coming back and there are definitely no such things as a ghost. If there were, with science what it is today, we would know about it.

I think there would be less wars if people truly believed there was only one life and if you die, you cease to exist for all eternity. People would be more careful and nicer because they would not want some crazy person to loose their mind and end their life.

This is the only life you have and the reasons for the decisions we make in this life should only do with making this life better for ourselves or the ones we love. Making decisions in this life for a imaginary life beyond does not make any sense. It is a waste of often money, time and energy.

However, to each his (her) own. If believing in a higher power, god, or after life gives you comfort in this present life, then I will not stop you from living in this fantasy (the faculty or activity of imagining things, esp. things that are impossible or improbable) world. Just be careful your spiritual decisions don't impact my present real life decisions. Therein lies the possibility of an offense being taken.

There it is.

The burden of proof is there for everybody to try out. It doesn't need complicated machines or mathematical wizardry. It's a personal path of self discovery through various methods like meditation for example and obeys its own set of rules. It's there for everybody to try out.

I found that when atheists are faced with this option, they simply dismiss it and continue running around in circles, demanding scientific truth. As if that is the only Truth possible.

Also, it's simply not true that a society without the believe in a higher power is free from war...just look at the 'communist'/atheist states of Russia, China or North Korea. Same war mongering as any other 'religious' country.

I rather think that once we realize we are not separate beings and are all connected, war will become meaningless...like shooting yourself in the foot.

I'm an optimist.

PS: I do have a few open minded atheist friends. When we happen to talk about such topics, they listen, I listen. It's not a fight over who is right and who is wrong. Such conversations are refreshing and enrichen all of us. Call it an exchange of puzzle pieces if you will.

Edited December 31, 2013 by OmegaRacer

[mickjn]

Surin are into the magic quite a lot.

Yes Surin is the place.I never believed in it I never even thought of it until about 8 years ago when something happened.Had no effect no me or the lady that sang the song but the Thais that were there that was another story