robblok Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 certain;y not safe to have kiddies there...one crowd panic could be awful I agree these protesters are risking their lives to oust this corrupt government while being set upon by thug's and the goverment as expected has not caught a single one. No kids should be there.. the government will become more desperate and more acts will follow. The government is loosing on all sides.. farmers want them out.. corruption investigations.. a rice scam ready to explode. Where I come from we have a saying that a cornered animal (the government) will do strange and dangerous things. So keep the kids out of there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djjamie Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 From a member 20 minutes ago: Thai news reports bomb attack at Victory Monument. An unknown man was seen throwing two bombs in to crowds of people. The protesters tried to apprehend the assailant but were shot at it. Source was Nation TV. More reason for the guards to be permitted to be armed. Do people seriously expect the protesters to whistle at an armed attacker? I hope they get him and expose him for what he is.... A THAKSIN paid terrorist. ....There are real people out there protesting what they believe in and getting killed or seriously injured.... As I watch the live protests on TNN I noticed these people are dragging their children into the midst of the protests. Every parent who takes a child into this mayhem should be arrested and jailed on child endangerment. This is just another example of how thoughtless and uncaring these people are for those whom they inconvenience or endanger, including their own families. This thoughtless act alone shows the true colors of these protesters. Sent from my tin can via string Agreed. Very irresponsible. I wonder if Suthup will order the protestors to use children as human shields as Jatuporn did during the 2010 brutal terrorist uprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 It is funny to see TV posters choosing sides, depending where their bar girls / chinese hisos are coming from. When in reality this country is divided into violent muslims, violent red shirts and violent yellow shirts. A few reasonable people here and there, but the majority is lacking common sense and lacking the will to settle disputes in a civilized way. This statement is probably about as close to the truth as any I have seen on this issue thus far - Not here.. gf is a political.. I am not. But then again i lived through (ok sounds more dramatic as it is but i was there) he burning of BKK saw the red violent thugs when i came to see if they were violent or not. That showed me what side is more violent.. as the current happenings illustrate (assuming its not false flag) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Boxclever Posted January 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2014 One or two more attacks like this will be the perfect excuse for the army to step in. I think it is all staged for this final outcome, it's the only way Suthep can win. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokemachine Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 The PDRC are not allowing the RTP to do security close to protest sites. More reason for the guards to be permitted to be armed. Do people seriously expect the protesters to whistle at an armed attacker? I hope they get him and expose him for what he is.... A THAKSIN paid terrorist. We expect them to stop trying to subvert democracy. Suthep and his backers are more than capable of doing this. Perhaps explains why then never caught.... They don't want to catch them. Only time any intervention was when it really was the reds and the police and army moved straigh in at cheang wattana Just a humble opinion of mine. Many should have agree that not all, but very high percentage of the RTP is supporting the Yingluck government or more directly is backing the TS regime. I'm not saying all these shootings/bombings definitely not done by the own anti-govt. But if people really doubt or believe these are actually created by Suthep and his co to gain sympathy/coup/protesters or whatever. Then why didn't the police strengthen up their force to catch the culprit? Once they caught the culprit, everything is exposed. Pdrc is finish. That's it. Why didn't the police do it?? Unless this time they have bought by SUTHEP, not TS. Do you think the police has bought over by Suthep? hmm..... I'm wondering... And for good reason too. They are not trustworthy and they and the wonderful Capo tried to do their best to blame the protestors on the death of one policeman. That was after the lies about who was actually on the roof of the Labour Ministry roof. Outside the protests how many have been arrested for the shooting at the Dem headquarters, Grenade at Abhisit residence, another explosive at Sukhumband's as well as shots, unexploded grenades and warnings at other protestors' homes? None. This reply is for op RIch Teacher As you mentioned: The PDRC are not allowing the RTP to do security close to protest sites. They can actually wear civilians, disguise as undercovers. They don't have to be at the protest sites at all. They just need to be at the surroundings a little bit far. Despatch every team at different road end. When the culprit finish shooting/bombing, will they stay at the scene?No right, they will surely escape by bike or car. The undercovers will just need intercept them when they approaching. Why didn't they do it and Pdrc will be exposed? Anyway it's just my own opinion. Probably the police have their own way of tackling issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmac Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Remind me where I heard a political party address a crowd of it's followers from a stage and order an attack on a hospital(Siriraj IIRC), as well as the actual storming of another hospital. It fits a pattern although I am at a loss as to why team rouge feel the need to attack hospitals, don't suppose many of their members took the hippocratic oath? Can you never comment on the issue at hand, instead of continually bleating about what happened 4 years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikkie Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I have lost track of how many "grenade" reported bombings there have been in the last week or so. But tell me, o wise ones, is the term "grenade" being used in error by low intelligence level reporters, or do they now sell grenades at the local 7-Elevens in Bangkok? If so why not supply the security guards with several to lob back at the original attacker. Honest to goodness grenades, were do they get them? I don´t knowñ but there have not been any further details about the group of people arrested a few days ago carrying the same type of grenades as have been used. That is because they have been freed because they said they didn't do anything wrong and that the 4 grenades and ammo were just for personal protection and the police accepted this without delay and issued a statement that these people were totally innocent of all and any involvement in attacks on protesters and they had 'honorable' intentions. This is why the police are NOT trusted. Personally I hope that the entire police force is replaced once Suthep wins, and he will win. In your dreams he will win he is just cutting is own hands of why you think red are just sabai because suthep will kill himself he lost already a lot of voters now he start trowing bombs at is own people because red want step down or react to his stupid hitler like speeches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Welcome to battlefield Bangkok,.... it's only the beginning. as usual;... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spalpeen Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Mugs being attacked by thugs. There's nothing more dangerous than a cornered snake. Following the total failure of the laughable 'Bangkok Shutdown', I hope that the people behind these obviously connected attacks do serious jail time some day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I have lost track of how many "grenade" reported bombings there have been in the last week or so. But tell me, o wise ones, is the term "grenade" being used in error by low intelligence level reporters, or do they now sell grenades at the local 7-Elevens in Bangkok? If so why not supply the security guards with several to lob back at the original attacker. A grenade is a small bomb. In short, a grenade is a bomb, a bomb is not always a grenade. A grenade is easily to manufacture and to conceal on one's body, due to it's size and weight A bomb is easily to manufacture and not so easy to conceal on one's body. Bar the paradise-sending device so loved by seekers of virgins, which is concealable on the body. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Hey Pipkins - Ya think that PTP will use this attack as another reason for not paying the rice farmers? - seeing as you were unable to answer my direct question in another thread. Condolences to all those injured. Hope the police are given access to the site and can find the people who did this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 RT@Tulip_Oum: Rajviti Hosp: 4 injured are in critical condition, 2 of those are under surgery. Hosp to make announcement at 5PM.-@news1005fm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neurath Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 It is funny to see TV posters choosing sides, depending where their bar girls / chinese hisos are coming from. When in reality this country is divided into violent muslims, violent red shirts and violent yellow shirts. A few reasonable people here and there, but the majority is lacking common sense and lacking the will to settle disputes in a civilized way. Yes, this is a good point. Assuming that those here are taking on the views of their girlfriends/wives/boyfriends/husbands, then it would seem that not all are hitched to folk from the North or the Northeast. Unless of course the shrill shouts of a few are skewing my judgement of number and proportion - but that sort of thing doesn't happen in Thailand where cool heads and consideration prevails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devaram Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 From a member 20 minutes ago: Thai news reports bomb attack at Victory Monument. An unknown man was seen throwing two bombs in to crowds of people. The protesters tried to apprehend the assailant but were shot at it. Source was Nation TV. More reason for the guards to be permitted to be armed. Do people seriously expect the protesters to whistle at an armed attacker? I hope they get him and expose him for what he is.... A THAKSIN paid terrorist. That has yet to be proven and is almost too simple to be true. It may have been paid by the one who is paying Suthep these guys are devious as hell and there are many diifferent faction. We always want to believe some simplistic black and white picture as it tends to be more in the west but this is asia and much is hidden from view here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubbaJohnny Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Surely the adult and compassioante thing is to condemn all violence from all quarters without reservation. Sadly the perps may remain ,unknown,shielded or part of a group ,whichever this means conspiracy to murder. The fact that this is recurring day after day on the streets of the capital is a sad indictment of those whose job is to protect the people. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRSoul Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Remember 4 people caught with a handgun and grenades, then released by the BIB. I wonder where they are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poisonus Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Remember 4 people caught with a handgun and grenades, then released by the BIB. I wonder where they are now. Back on the flyovers lobbing grenades at protesters again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Probably another one of ex Democrat Kowit Tharana vigilantes. Not sure if its been mentioned but the other paper is reporting that the ex Democrat MP has admitted his subordinate's vehicle and him appear to be involved in the grenade attack on the PDRC on Friday, the very same attack where the weapons cache, red hat etc etc was found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diceq Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Remember 4 people caught with a handgun and grenades, then released by the BIB. I wonder where they are now. Got any source that they were released? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scamper Posted January 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2014 What is clear is that the administration and the police - who are no where to be seen during these atrocities except after the fact, in their apparent eager capacity to horde whatever evidence they find so that they can frame and control their own narrative - have become the " unwitting " enablers of atrocities committed on the streets in the clear light of day on the streets of Bangkok. The only protection the Thai people on the street have from the roaming vigilante armies who are out to annihilate them with grenades - are the police. Without the police, the Thai people are defenseless. When a perception is afoot, that there is an active reticence to protect the Thai people on the street - when that is apparent to those on the streets, we have the makings of a state which fails in its most basic moral duty to protect the lives of their own citizens. While the administration focuses all their attention and wrath on the peaceful protest itself, vigilante groups are now roaming the streets in order to punctuate their own special brand of democracy and their own special brand of terror. The administration can pretend to look the other way while these atrocities take place, but no one on the street will, no television crew will, and no international correspondents will. They - and the people of this country - will see what they see and they will ask the very same questions and make the very same observations. They will not be so easily swayed or controlled by the talking points of the police or of the administration. They will form their own narrative. And it will be a narrative based on fact and not on fiction. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shunima Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I feel bad for anyone here who thinks an UNELECTED council to choose the government is a good idea. Name another country besides dictatorships that does this .... Sent from my SM-N900 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app I feel bad for anyone here who thinks an ELECTED PTP government is a good idea. Guess we have a dilemma, haven't we? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BKKBrit Posted January 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2014 Reading some of the tosh in this forum, it beggars belief that so many of you seem to know the inside workings of this country. It's actually pitiful how little factual information you lend to a discussion...just mindless gossip and hearsay which contributes nothing. Do try and keep up or at the very least, read a newspaper (try the commentaries...those are the wordy-articles which usually have no pictures to break it up - and hence a little daunting for some) - or watch the local news occasionally and then be a little more informed with the facts. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I feel bad for anyone here who thinks an UNELECTED council to choose the government is a good idea. Name another country besides dictatorships that does this .... Sent from my SM-N900 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Ignoring the fact it is already run by a dictatorship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 473geo Posted January 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2014 (edited) certain;y not safe to have kiddies there...one crowd panic could be awful I agree these protesters are risking their lives to oust this corrupt government while being set upon by thug's and the goverment as expected has not caught a single one. No kids should be there.. the government will become more desperate and more acts will follow. The government is loosing on all sides.. farmers want them out.. corruption investigations.. a rice scam ready to explode. Where I come from we have a saying that a cornered animal (the government) will do strange and dangerous things. So keep the kids out of there. This has to be a great example of one the most piss poor attempts to turn a reasonably expressed concern into political ammnunition...... Edited January 19, 2014 by 473geo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocN Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 ok i got this figured out thanks to some posters here The yellow shirts did the bak thai incedent, war on drugs, sale of thai satelite company without paying taxes, then wore red shirts and staged 2009-2010 riots, stole the money from rice scheme-water managment projects, issued and passed the amnesty bill along with some other nasty pieces or legislations and now bombed - shot at themselfs to death and THEN they blamed poor misunderstood MR.T for it. Shame on them!!! Totally funny! I wet myself.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pui Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 (edited) You can't disrupt the lives of 10 million people for weeks on end without some kind of repercussion. So you think the solution to disrupting traffic is to throw grenades do you? That those food vendors had it coming!!! Edited January 19, 2014 by Pui Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trembly Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 You can't disrupt the lives of 10 million people for weeks on end without some kind of repercussion. That's a bit of an exaggeration. Over in On-Nut no one would have any idea that there were protests if it weren't for the news or social media. We don't even feel it; it may as well be going on in another country in terms of disruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosteinSetsaas Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Do we remember all this man in "black"? The police not to be seen, so how much blood for money will Suthep be able to collect? Next to me, A retired police maj. coming for his cup of coffee, and only shaking his head while we watch TV-blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantareiyingluck Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I feel bad for anyone here who thinks an UNELECTED council to choose the government is a good idea. Name another country besides dictatorships that does this .... Sent from my SM-N900 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Yes being ellected gives a government the power to rape and pillage the states coffers and hand out justice aimed at getting one man home.. OH i forgot they also make up fake G2G transactions to cover their tracks .. or even worse buy the rice cheap and resell it to the government again(also possible) In a normal democraty the government would step down and let the corruption be investigated while those who are being investigated stay far away and usually step down during the investigation. Guess what... this elected government does not do that.. its as democratic as Russia / North Korea / Iran What a ridiculous post. In Russia youcan not express freely your opinion. Gays are being haunted. Iran is a medieval Moslim regime where people get hanged for nothing. N Korea you can not move around freely. Thailand is open one can express his opnions travel without restrictions. Change jobs. Chose to live the life you want. The comparison is sick and insane. Here is no regime or dictatorship. In contrary....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 RT@veen_NT: Police said the bombs at Victory Monument are RGD-5, same type used at Bantadthong blast via @TNAMCOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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