Old Croc Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Alonso out. Stopped on restart behind safety car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Red flag - that could be it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 What did actually happen? There was no response from Jules Bianci when the team radio asked if he is ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 (edited) Don't know but race is over Edit Sounds like he hit the tractor. I hope he;s OK Edited October 5, 2014 by Mosha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 (edited) This just came in F1gridBREAKING: Jules Bianchi may have collided with the JCB tractor that was lifting Sutil's car. #F1 #JapaneseGP05/10/14 15:06 F1grid Sutil has reported that Bianchi hit the tractor sideways. #F1 #JapaneseGP05/10/14 15:06 Edited October 5, 2014 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 richardsf1 Overhearing audio suggesting Bianchi slid "underneath the truck". That's not good to hear 05/10/14 15:08 InsideFerrari #FerrariJPNGP Jules Bianchi is at the medical center. Jules Bianchi è stato portato al centro medico. 05/10/14 15:09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Being taken to hospital by ambulance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Paula just said he was unconscious when he was air lifted to hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Other sources were telling that he was taken to the hospital with an ambulance (40 minutes drive with police escort) as hes condition was not good enough to take him with a helicopter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Hopefully Jules will be alright That cannot be good hitting a tractor Does make me wonder about the thinking to even bring the tractor out there given the conditions & that corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 (edited) Other sources were telling that he was taken to the hospital with an ambulance (40 minutes drive with police escort) as hes condition was not good enough to take him with a helicopter. I think it was weather conditions not safe enough Visibility wise for an air lift Because air lift is usually used for some of the most extreme injuries that makes sense. I think the main problem with this is 1st given that turn a Safety Car should have come out before a rescue tractor was allowed there to recover Sutils car Edited October 5, 2014 by mania 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 RT @W7VOA: Reuters: #F1 @Jules_Bianchi accident occurred where Sutil had aquaplaned off a lap earlier & involved rescue tractor recovering the Sauber. RT @W7VOA: MT @pawelf1: @Jules_Bianchi accident scene. Suzuka, #Japan http://t.co/8xH5KYcRwC #F1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 RT @W7VOA: #F1 driver @nico_rosberg quoted at Suzuka saying @Jules_Bianchi accident "seems very, very serious. I'm hoping for the best." #JapanGP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I enjoyed Legends of F1 with Eddie Irvine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Mika Salo, who was driver member at race jury said to Finnish media that the pictures he saw showed that Jules's car went straight under the tractor and that Jules had a heavy hit to the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Jules Bianchi's father has told French television that his son is in a critical condition following his crash at the Japanese Grand Prix this morning. The Marussia driver collided with a recovery vehicle which was removing Adrian Sutil's Sauber from the side of the track after the German had run wide in wet conditions. According to France 3 television, the 25-year-old's father has said that the driver is undergoing surgery for head trauma, and that he is in a critical condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Well Lewis had a better day at the office, but the Jules thing has subdued his victory. Hope Jules is not hurt as bad as some are suggesting, though you have to question the wisdom of wheeling out a few tons of solid steel until the all the drivers have passed and are aware of the incident. Well no doubt after investigation there will be more rules and restrictions, maybe they will now put a lot of flashing lights on the removal cranes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 (edited) This does not look good. Much of top rear etc looks sheered off as well as the scrapes across the top front deck suggest car may have gone under that tractor. Hope he is ok & pulls thru Edited October 5, 2014 by mania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Well Lewis had a better day at the office, but the Jules thing has subdued his victory. Hope Jules is not hurt as bad as some are suggesting, though you have to question the wisdom of wheeling out a few tons of solid steel until the all the drivers have passed and are aware of the incident. Well no doubt after investigation there will be more rules and restrictions, maybe they will now put a lot of flashing lights on the removal cranes. Given the conditions the safety car should have been out as soon as the crane was deployed. However hind sight is a wonderful thing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 The FIA has confirmed that Marussia driver Jules Bianchi has suffered a severe head injury and is currently being operated on following a crash in today’s Japanese Grand Prix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Well Lewis had a better day at the office, but the Jules thing has subdued his victory. Hope Jules is not hurt as bad as some are suggesting, though you have to question the wisdom of wheeling out a few tons of solid steel until the all the drivers have passed and are aware of the incident. Well no doubt after investigation there will be more rules and restrictions, maybe they will now put a lot of flashing lights on the removal cranes. Given the conditions the safety car should have been out as soon as the crane was deployed. However hind sight is a wonderful thing True but also many times when the SC comes out drivers gaped will take the opportunity to speed up & close gaps while remaining in Que Sutil said under dbl yellow he saw many going by at what looked like full speeds. I think the main mistake today was to bring out that tractor before things were suitably sorted. They go thru all the trouble of making tire barriers etc then bring a tractor in front of it in rain while cars are still circulating Look at Silverstone when Raikkonen hit that guardrail...They not only stopped things but made everyone wait till rail was fixed in case another car did a 1 in a 1000 chance hit in same spot. In any case I hope Jules does ok & they learn something from all of this too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/29496295 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Well Lewis had a better day at the office, but the Jules thing has subdued his victory. Hope Jules is not hurt as bad as some are suggesting, though you have to question the wisdom of wheeling out a few tons of solid steel until the all the drivers have passed and are aware of the incident. Well no doubt after investigation there will be more rules and restrictions, maybe they will now put a lot of flashing lights on the removal cranes. Given the conditions the safety car should have been out as soon as the crane was deployed. However hind sight is a wonderful thing True but also many times when the SC comes out drivers gaped will take the opportunity to speed up & close gaps while remaining in Que I think the main mistake today was to bring out that tractor before things were suitably sorted. They go thru all the trouble of making tire barriers etc then bring a tractor in front of it in rain while cars are still circulating Look at Silverstone when Raikkonen hit that guardrail...They not only stopped things but made everyone wait till rail was fixed in case another car did a 1 in a 1000 chance hit in same spot. In any case I hope Jules does ok & they learn something from all of this too. Yes, hindsight is a wonderful thing, "Sutil said under dbl yellow he saw many going by at what looked like full speeds.", FIA need to investigate if drivers could see the double yellows given the track conditions. Who authorised the tractor? is it not up to race control to authorise deployment? anyone do the simplest of risk assessments? as pointed out at Silverstone they red flagged the race until the barrier was repaired, I think we can see an issue with inconsistent standards of safety here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Yes, hindsight is a wonderful thing, "Sutil said under dbl yellow he saw many going by at what looked like full speeds.", FIA need to investigate if drivers could see the double yellows given the track conditions. Who authorised the tractor? is it not up to race control to authorise deployment? anyone do the simplest of risk assessments? as pointed out at Silverstone they red flagged the race until the barrier was repaired, I think we can see an issue with inconsistent standards of safety here. On the DBL Yellows doesn't the drivers get the flashing yellow lights on steering wheel too? I am not sure but just wondered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignis Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Remember a few years ago in Brazil even the rain master himself piled into all the other wrecks..... no matter how many lights are flashing on top of water you have no control your a passenger.. Massa screaming over the radio the Race should be stopped a few laps before, should the safety car have already been out ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Remember a few years ago in Brazil even the rain master himself piled into all the other wrecks..... no matter how many lights are flashing on top of water you have no control your a passenger.. Massa screaming over the radio the Race should be stopped a few laps before, should the safety car have already been out ? Alex was saying the safety car should have been out before the lifting machinery. That way the situation should have been under control. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Remember a few years ago in Brazil even the rain master himself piled into all the other wrecks..... no matter how many lights are flashing on top of water you have no control your a passenger.. Massa screaming over the radio the Race should be stopped a few laps before, should the safety car have already been out ? Alex was saying the safety car should have been out before the lifting machinery. That way the situation should have been under control. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, and you are totally correct... But some people thought at the time that was not needed, or there was total F-Up in communications. What I see now is the safety car coming out when really not required or races red flagged because everybody is afraid to take a sensible decision. i am sure the decision to bring the race forward was vetoed by the F1 commercial rights holder, not for the reason that many fans would not be able to get to the race in time but for the fact they would lose a lot of money from live televised broadcasts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Anyone hear anything more on Jules? Have seen more terrible pictures Looks like he went completely under that tractor Hoping he recovers +++ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 FIA have told the BBC 'critical but stable' http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/29503730 Marussia have thanked the Formula One community and fans for the huge outpouring of support for Jules Bianchi, and called for patience with regards to updates about his medical condition following his accident at Suzuka. http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2014/10/16453.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Uh. Here is a video of the crash taken by a spectator. Bianchi went partly under the vehicle with high speed. youtu.be/i_xWhHmS9ao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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