Suthep announces election must be blocked

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Suthep announces election must be blocked



BANGKOK: -- Protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban announced Tuesday night at Pathumwan protest stage that anti-government protesters would try all possible means to prevent the February 2 election from taking place.

He also urged opponents of Thaksin regime to rise up and to protest the Sunday’s election.

Addressing the crowd at Pathumwan intersection, Mr Suthep, secretary-general of the People’s Democratic Reform Committee, said it was necessary to escalate the intensity of the struggle against Thaksin regime in order to get rid of the regime before the election.

In so doing, he said that all government offices which are still functioning must be completely shut down so government officials would not be able to work to serve the regime.

Referring to a shooting incident in front of the Army Club on Tuesday, Mr Suthep said protest guards had seized several evidences from the suspected shooter, a metropolitan police officer, such as two walkie-talkies, a motorcycle taxi driver’s jacket and a small digital camera.

The evidences have been handed over to the Justice Ministry because he did not trust the police, said the protest leader.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/suthep-announces-election-must-blocked/


-- Thai PBS 2014-01-29

[QROPS]

This bloke is an idiot, the country is a mess. When is someone going to grow a pair and just rid the country of these muppets from both sides?

[Cnxforever]

so i think it is fair to say then that he is going back on his word again - "not to prevent people from voting?"

I think it is also fair to say then that his actions will cause a lot of problems and very likely again violence between voters and those who try to prevent them from voting?

I think it is also fair to say that this may cause more violence instigated by the mad man Suthep and I think it is also fair to say then that it is time that this lunatic should be "removed" - to use his words - "by all possible means" to avoid bloodshed and violence during the elections.

Removing this lunatic from the equation now might safe the lives of many innocent Thai people - so I say go for it - by all possible means get rid of this hate preaching nut case!

I have not met any Thai yet who would miss this corrupt gangster - Thailand would be a much better place without him! .

[haroldc]

so i think it is fair to say then that he is going back on his word again - "not to prevent people from voting?"

I think it is also fair to say then that his actions will cause a lot of problems and very likely again violence between voters and those who try to prevent them from voting?

I think it is also fair to say that this may cause more violence instigated by the mad man Suthep and I think it is also fair to say then that it is time that this lunatic should be "removed" - to use his words - "by all possible means" to avoid bloodshed and violence during the elections.

Removing this lunatic from the equation now might safe the lives of many innocent Thai people - so I say go for it - by all possible means get rid of this hate preaching nut case!

I have not met any Thai yet who would miss this corrupt gangster - Thailand would be a much better place without him! .

Well, I guess you don't know very many Thais...

[QROPS]

so i think it is fair to say then that he is going back on his word again - "not to prevent people from voting?"

I think it is also fair to say then that his actions will cause a lot of problems and very likely again violence between voters and those who try to prevent them from voting?

I think it is also fair to say that this may cause more violence instigated by the mad man Suthep and I think it is also fair to say then that it is time that this lunatic should be "removed" - to use his words - "by all possible means" to avoid bloodshed and violence during the elections.

Removing this lunatic from the equation now might safe the lives of many innocent Thai people - so I say go for it - by all possible means get rid of this hate preaching nut case!

I have not met any Thai yet who would miss this corrupt gangster - Thailand would be a much better place without him! .

Well, I guess you don't know very many Thais...

Well I guess you know lots of Thais that like corrupt gangsters. What a pleasant place you must live...

[Snig27]

This power hungry scoundrel is getting more and more out of control.

[dtarasin]

Peaceful protest because you don't like the government = fine.

Preventing law-abiding citizens from exercising their right to vote = borderline terrorism.

[Tarric]

At this point it seems any form of endgame for either side is no where in sight. However the PTP have an opportunity on Sunday to deal a serious blow to the PDRC, while clearing the protesters with force may seem like a heavy handed response in the eyes of many of the Thai Public and international observers, on election day if they attempt to stop people voting in elections and the PTP use force at polling stations it will give the PTP the moral and metaphorical high ground.

Using force to guard polling stations during democratic elections is accepted practice across the world, elections must not be stopped by a minority to the detriment of the majority.

If the PTP are wise it will all be over this weekend, they now have the opportunity to corner the armed forces into making a decision one way or another, no longer can they sit on the sidelines as the country falls apart.

If the PTP orders the Army to guard the polling stations and to use all necessary force to keep them open the Army will have to choose between either obeying their orders and siding with the government which opens the door for negeotiations (as the protesters only chance for victory dissappears) or they side with the protesters and we have a coup either way at this point the PTP wins in my opinion. The longer this drags on the further the PTP brand is damaged and the more Thailand's reputation is further stomped into the dirt.

[Prbkk]

This power hungry scoundrel is getting more and more out of control.

scoundrel is the perfect word for him....

[Asiantravel]

This power hungry scoundrel is getting more and more out of control.

scoundrel is the perfect word for him....

I thought they were going to arrest him within 72 hours?

[toybits]

This is very sad to hear from the Dear Leader...

[gemini81]

Peaceful protest because you don't like the government = fine.

Preventing law-abiding citizens from exercising their right to vote = borderline terrorism.

Terrorism?! That involves physical violence to the extreme. Red shirts?

Don't be so dramatic, unless you wanna star in a thai soap opera.

[toybits]

Coercing/Preventing others from exercising their God/Buddha given right to cast their vote is not a form of violence? Please explain...

Peaceful protest because you don't like the government = fine.
Preventing law-abiding citizens from exercising their right to vote = borderline terrorism.

Terrorism?! That involves physical violence to the extreme. Red shirts?

Don't be so dramatic, unless you wanna star in a thai soap opera.

[djjamie]

so i think it is fair to say then that he is going back on his word again - "not to prevent people from voting?"

I think it is also fair to say then that his actions will cause a lot of problems and very likely again violence between voters and those who try to prevent them from voting?

I think it is also fair to say that this may cause more violence instigated by the mad man Suthep and I think it is also fair to say then that it is time that this lunatic should be "removed" - to use his words - "by all possible means" to avoid bloodshed and violence during the elections.

Removing this lunatic from the equation now might safe the lives of many innocent Thai people - so I say go for it - by all possible means get rid of this hate preaching nut case!

I have not met any Thai yet who would miss this corrupt gangster - Thailand would be a much better place without him! .

Some UDD supporters defended the red shirts that caused trouble in the 2010 brutal terrorist uprising by saying "The red shirts were a product of the environment created by the DEMS" thus deflecting accountability for their actions. The old catch cry of the PTP / UDD "It's not our fault. It's the DEMS fault" Grows old, but alas it is all they have.

Some might say it here too…..But no one has? Not one person has tried to deflect accountability away for Suthep. No one said he is a product of something the PTP created. That's an easy out. He has to be held accountable irrespective of the cancerous govt he is trying to bring down.

That is a fundamental difference between the two supporter bases. One is blinded by admiration for a regime based on propaganda that adhere to one principle of democracy so they can abuse every other principle. The other is based on human rights, dignity and a true understanding of what is right and ensuring that the rule of law is adhered too.

I hope Suthep achieves a new dawn in Thailand where ALL the principles of democracy are embraced, but I also understand he has to be accountable for any actions that are against the law.

So when you seem to be insinuating something by saying "by all possible means get rid of this hate preaching nut case" I know that if he was assassinated then the PTP won't be held accountable, the UDD won't be. It will be Suthep's fault according to the PTP who at a stretch will even blame Abhisit and slap another murder charge on him! Don't laugh, I would never put it past the PTP. Some of the blame games they have played before are more far reaching than that.

It seems by your comment that assassination is even justified? With thoughts like that Thailand will mirror Iraq, Sudan and Zimbabwe who also feel that opposition should be silenced by all means possible or that the principle of democracy called "respecting different points of view" should be ignored. Would you say "by all means get rid of this hate preaching nut case" is a principle of democracy? Not the last time I checked. By saying it you are no better than Suthep. You are becoming the person you apparently despise.

If anything blame the police. They should have arrested him months ago when they had an arrest warrant out on him. The blame won't lie with the tomato police though. The PTP have not demonized the tomato police as they are Thaksin's little helpers and thus it is not ingrained into the gullible voters minds that the police have not done their job.

The slide to political fanaticism is slow and before you know it you are just another fanatic preaching rhetoric to the gullible. Look no further than Jatuporn.

Edited January 29, 2014 by djjamie

[tom21]

if I was home and I was prevented from voting by a political group I would class that as an act of terrorism

[Jip99]

so i think it is fair to say then that he is going back on his word again - "not to prevent people from voting?"

I think it is also fair to say then that his actions will cause a lot of problems and very likely again violence between voters and those who try to prevent them from voting?

I think it is also fair to say that this may cause more violence instigated by the mad man Suthep and I think it is also fair to say then that it is time that this lunatic should be "removed" - to use his words - "by all possible means" to avoid bloodshed and violence during the elections.

Removing this lunatic from the equation now might safe the lives of many innocent Thai people - so I say go for it - by all possible means get rid of this hate preaching nut case!

I have not met any Thai yet who would miss this corrupt gangster - Thailand would be a much better place without him! .

Well, I guess you don't know very many Thais...

Well I guess you know lots of Thais that like corrupt gangsters. What a pleasant place you must live...

The pleasant place in which he lives is called Thailand - and the Thais that like another corrupt gangster (the biggest that the country has ever seen) will be trying to vote PTP on Sunday.

[LadPhrao123]

so i think it is fair to say then that he is going back on his word again - "not to prevent people from voting?"

I think it is also fair to say then that his actions will cause a lot of problems and very likely again violence between voters and those who try to prevent them from voting?

I think it is also fair to say that this may cause more violence instigated by the mad man Suthep and I think it is also fair to say then that it is time that this lunatic should be "removed" - to use his words - "by all possible means" to avoid bloodshed and violence during the elections.

Removing this lunatic from the equation now might safe the lives of many innocent Thai people - so I say go for it - by all possible means get rid of this hate preaching nut case!

I have not met any Thai yet who would miss this corrupt gangster - Thailand would be a much better place without him! .

Some UDD supporters defended the red shirts that caused trouble in the 2010 brutal terrorist uprising by saying "The red shirts were a product of the environment created by the DEMS" thus deflecting accountability for their actions. The old catch cry of the PTP / UDD "It's not our fault. It's the DEMS fault" Grows old, but alas it is all they have.

Some might say it here too…..But no one has? Not one person has tried to deflect accountability away for Suthep. No one said he is a product of something the PTP created. That's an easy out. He has to be held accountable irrespective of the cancerous govt he is trying to bring down.

That is a fundamental difference between the two supporter bases. One is blinded by admiration for a regime based on propaganda that adhere to one principle of democracy so they can abuse every other principle. The other is based on human rights, dignity and a true understanding of what is right and ensuring that the rule of law is adhered too.

I hope Suthep achieves a new dawn in Thailand where ALL the principles of democracy are embraced, but I also understand he has to be accountable for any actions that are against the law.

So when you seem to be insinuating something by saying "by all possible means get rid of this hate preaching nut case" I know that if he was assassinated then the PTP won't be held accountable, the UDD won't be. It will be Suthep's fault! It seems by your comment that assassination is even justified? With thoughts like that Thailand will mirror Iraq, Sudan and Zimbabwe who also feel that opposition should be silenced by all means possible or that the principle of democracy called "respecting different points of view" should be ignored. Would you say "by all means get rid of this hate preaching nut case" is a principle of democracy? Not the last time I checked. By saying it you are no better than Suthep. You are becoming the person you apparently despise.

If anything blame the police. They should have arrested him months ago when they had an arrest warrant out on him.

The slide to political fanaticism is slow and before you know it you are just another fanatic preaching rhetoric to the gullible. Look no further than Jatuporn.

A lot of words obscuring the fact you're in the bag for Suthep and think the protesters are out there 'based on human rights, dignity and a true understanding of what is right.' versus the equally fantastic piece of garbage condemning the current government.

Every person is responsible, not just the police. The protestors have the responsibility to open their eyes and recognized that what they're following is not "based on human rights, dignity and a true understanding of what is right." The slide to political fanatacism is facilitated by people supporting fascist leaders. And right now Suthep is further greasing the skids.

There's the focus, Suthep, he and his gangs need to be got rid of. How it happens will be a footnote in history.

[bkksteviejai]

so i think it is fair to say then that he is going back on his word again - "not to prevent people from voting?"

I think it is also fair to say then that his actions will cause a lot of problems and very likely again violence between voters and those who try to prevent them from voting?

I think it is also fair to say that this may cause more violence instigated by the mad man Suthep and I think it is also fair to say then that it is time that this lunatic should be "removed" - to use his words - "by all possible means" to avoid bloodshed and violence during the elections.

Removing this lunatic from the equation now might safe the lives of many innocent Thai people - so I say go for it - by all possible means get rid of this hate preaching nut case!

I have not met any Thai yet who would miss this corrupt gangster - Thailand would be a much better place without him! .

Some UDD supporters defended the red shirts that caused trouble in the 2010 brutal terrorist uprising by saying "The red shirts were a product of the environment created by the DEMS" thus deflecting accountability for their actions. The old catch cry of the PTP / UDD "It's not our fault. It's the DEMS fault" Grows old, but alas it is all they have.

Some might say it here too…..But no one has? Not one person has tried to deflect accountability away for Suthep. No one said he is a product of something the PTP created. That's an easy out. He has to be held accountable irrespective of the cancerous govt he is trying to bring down.

That is a fundamental difference between the two supporter bases. One is blinded by admiration for a regime based on propaganda that adhere to one principle of democracy so they can abuse every other principle. The other is based on human rights, dignity and a true understanding of what is right and ensuring that the rule of law is adhered too.

I hope Suthep achieves a new dawn in Thailand where ALL the principles of democracy are embraced, but I also understand he has to be accountable for any actions that are against the law.

We are right, they are wrong. Simple eh. I sincerely hope not too many Thais are as pig headed as you.

Edited January 29, 2014 by metisdead
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[CockneyGit]

This power hungry scoundrel is getting more and more out of control.

scoundrel is the perfect word for him....

I thought they were going to arrest him within 72 hours?

Nick him before Sunday. Problem solved!

[DocN]

I will stay home on Sunday, because there will be blood.

And if there will be blood, a lot of us are going to stay home after Sunday!

Happy curfew, everybody!

[pipkins]

Might be going down well in Thailand with the mob fans. But on the world stage he is already toast!!!!!

Does Thailand want to put him at the helm and head straight for the iceburg. If Coup 19 succeed through the Judicial Route looking most likely again, thailand will sink.

If there are enough people to blindly follow Suthep and get him in power, It's up to them, but when they bleat about losing jobs or the Reds staging a real revolutions. They'll get the same sympathy as the yellow mob at the Temple on Sunday.

Incidentally, which of the forces do you see enforcing the Courts Judgements this time. With sickening bias such as this, they could justifiably just topple the courts or ignore them. Nobody will see this interference from them as anything other than self serving so don't have to worry too much when their rigged judgements are handed down.

Somchai at EC just showed his bias again. but am so used to this toad now that I won't comment on it... It's that blatant

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Edited January 29, 2014 by pipkins

[Redhawk]

so i think it is fair to say then that he is going back on his word again - "not to prevent people from voting?"

I think it is also fair to say then that his actions will cause a lot of problems and very likely again violence between voters and those who try to prevent them from voting?

I think it is also fair to say that this may cause more violence instigated by the mad man Suthep and I think it is also fair to say then that it is time that this lunatic should be "removed" - to use his words - "by all possible means" to avoid bloodshed and violence during the elections.

Removing this lunatic from the equation now might safe the lives of many innocent Thai people - so I say go for it - by all possible means get rid of this hate preaching nut case!

I have not met any Thai yet who would miss this corrupt gangster - Thailand would be a much better place without him! .

From the bottom of my heart, thanks!

[Clutch]

If he put as much effort into campaigning for the election as he has with 'organizing' protests he'd probably win it. Goes to show how clueless this dill is.

[djjamie]

if I was home and I was prevented from voting by a political group I would class that as an act of terrorism

So that's terrorism, but according to the same people the red shirts that raided the ASEAN summit, threatened to blow up LPG truck, grenade attacks at Thai banks, attacked Thai charity with grenades, stormed parliament, attacked NPP and TPI buildings with M16 and grenades, stormed police hospital, stormed TV station, bomb attacks on electricity pylons, took police hostage, beat soldiers, destroyed CCTV cameras, dumped tyres on sky train tracks and used children as human shield is not terrorism?

One wanted reform to take place before election to allow ALL the principles of democracy to flourish instead of only one (elections) and the other wanted an elected DEM party to dissolve the house and hold early elections. While the DEM's won 235 to 198 votes in parliament to gain power in the first place. That was voted for. But because the Thaksin affiliated parties were not on the winning end of THAT vote they don't recognize it.

PTP logic is recognizing that voting is a principle of democracy when you know you will win. Manipulate the votes (voting on behalf of others) when you fear you may lose as they did in parliament and of which when questioned a PTP minister didn't even see anything wrong with it! The hypocrisy in this instance is that when the PTP are found guilty of vote rigging the comments from the PTP supporters will be "judicial coup" Again showing no accountability for the PTP's actions.

[rjcampbe]

Peaceful protest because you don't like the government = fine.

Preventing law-abiding citizens from exercising their right to vote = borderline terrorism.

Terrorism?! That involves physical violence to the extreme. Red shirts?

Don't be so dramatic, unless you wanna star in a thai soap opera.

Hey Gemini81,

I tell you what... I'll go to your country and prevent YOU from being able to cast YOUR vote... then we'll see if you think that is a form of terrorism.

And keep in mind, BOTH SIDES have obstructed the democratic process in this election to a point where there is no possibility of a legitimate election being carried out. That's not a political stance supporting either side, it's a FACT under the rules that govern elections in the country. There is NO PATH to a legitimate seated government as a result of this election due to the illegal actions of BOTH SIDES!

I wish all of you would quit trying to argue that one side or the other in this situation is RIGHT. They are NOT! They are both as WRONG as it is possible to be and I can't believe that people are so stupid that they can actually get on this forum and try to make the case that one side or the other is RIGHT.

I don't know if it is ignorance, arrogance, or just plain old stupidity, but it is definately pathetic.

[djjamie]

if I was home and I was prevented from voting by a political group I would class that as an act of terrorism

So that's terrorism, but according to the same people the red shirts that raided the ASEAN summit, threatened to blow up LPG truck, grenade attacks at Thai banks, attacked Thai charity with grenades, stormed parliament, attacked NPP and TPI buildings with M16 and grenades, stormed police hospital, stormed TV station, bomb attacks on electricity pylons, took police hostage, beat soldiers, destroyed CCTV cameras, dumped tyres on sky train tracks and used children as human shield is not terrorism?

One wanted reform to take place before election to allow ALL the principles of democracy to flourish instead of only one (elections) and the other wanted an elected DEM party to dissolve the house and hold early elections. While the DEM's won 235 to 198 votes in parliament to gain power in the first place. That was voted for. But because the Thaksin affiliated parties were not on the winning end of THAT vote they don't recognize it.

PTP logic is recognizing that voting is a principle of democracy when you know you will win. Manipulate the votes (voting on behalf of others) when you fear you may lose as they did in parliament and of which when questioned a PTP minister didn't even see anything wrong with it! The hypocrisy in this instance is that when the PTP are found guilty of vote rigging the comments from the PTP supporters will be "judicial coup" Again showing no accountability for the PTP's actions.

[h90]

This bloke is an idiot, the country is a mess. When is someone going to grow a pair and just rid the country of these muppets from both sides?

If you would read the news: Suthep want a short interim government that prepares a changes to the constitution and laws to get rid of vote buying and corruption (=get rid of the Shinawatra clan + other self serving politic Dinosaurs) AND than all members of the interim government are also banned for 5 years from politics (to ensure they don't do any self serving things) and he himself will leave politics (=getting rid of their own muppets).

So this "idiot" is exactly doing what you want.

[djjamie]

so i think it is fair to say then that he is going back on his word again - "not to prevent people from voting?"

I think it is also fair to say then that his actions will cause a lot of problems and very likely again violence between voters and those who try to prevent them from voting?

I think it is also fair to say that this may cause more violence instigated by the mad man Suthep and I think it is also fair to say then that it is time that this lunatic should be "removed" - to use his words - "by all possible means" to avoid bloodshed and violence during the elections.

Removing this lunatic from the equation now might safe the lives of many innocent Thai people - so I say go for it - by all possible means get rid of this hate preaching nut case!

I have not met any Thai yet who would miss this corrupt gangster - Thailand would be a much better place without him! .

Some UDD supporters defended the red shirts that caused trouble in the 2010 brutal terrorist uprising by saying "The red shirts were a product of the environment created by the DEMS" thus deflecting accountability for their actions. The old catch cry of the PTP / UDD "It's not our fault. It's the DEMS fault" Grows old, but alas it is all they have.

Some might say it here too…..But no one has? Not one person has tried to deflect accountability away for Suthep. No one said he is a product of something the PTP created. That's an easy out. He has to be held accountable irrespective of the cancerous govt he is trying to bring down.

That is a fundamental difference between the two supporter bases. One is blinded by admiration for a regime based on propaganda that adhere to one principle of democracy so they can abuse every other principle. The other is based on human rights, dignity and a true understanding of what is right and ensuring that the rule of law is adhered too.

I hope Suthep achieves a new dawn in Thailand where ALL the principles of democracy are embraced, but I also understand he has to be accountable for any actions that are against the law.

So when you seem to be insinuating something by saying "by all possible means get rid of this hate preaching nut case" I know that if he was assassinated then the PTP won't be held accountable, the UDD won't be. It will be Suthep's fault! It seems by your comment that assassination is even justified? With thoughts like that Thailand will mirror Iraq, Sudan and Zimbabwe who also feel that opposition should be silenced by all means possible or that the principle of democracy called "respecting different points of view" should be ignored. Would you say "by all means get rid of this hate preaching nut case" is a principle of democracy? Not the last time I checked. By saying it you are no better than Suthep. You are becoming the person you apparently despise.

If anything blame the police. They should have arrested him months ago when they had an arrest warrant out on him.

The slide to political fanaticism is slow and before you know it you are just another fanatic preaching rhetoric to the gullible. Look no further than Jatuporn.

A lot of words obscuring the fact you're in the bag for Suthep and think the protesters are out there 'based on human rights, dignity and a true understanding of what is right.' versus the equally fantastic piece of garbage condemning the current government.

Every person is responsible, not just the police. The protestors have the responsibility to open their eyes and recognized that what they're following is not "based on human rights, dignity and a true understanding of what is right." The slide to political fanatacism is facilitated by people supporting fascist leaders. And right now Suthep is further greasing the skids.

There's the focus, Suthep, he and his gangs need to be got rid of. How it happens will be a footnote in history.

Point in case.

The blame won't lie with the tomato police though. The PTP have not demonized the tomato police as they are Thaksin's little helpers and thus it is not ingrained into the gullible voters minds that the police have not done their job.

[Crushdepth]

Civil disobedience and terrorism are not the same thing.

[dtarasin]

Peaceful protest because you don't like the government = fine.

Preventing law-abiding citizens from exercising their right to vote = borderline terrorism.

Terrorism?! That involves physical violence to the extreme. Red shirts?

Don't be so dramatic, unless you wanna star in a thai soap opera.

https://www.google.co.th/search?q=define+terrorism&oq=define+terro&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.2461j0j4&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8

Terrorism is defined as the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims. So yes, this is borderline terrorism. Also, why is it that anytime someone criticizes the protesters for crossing the line, someone ALWAYS goes "... but, but.. but THE RED SHIRTS!". So sick of this excuse. Just because you're not as violent as the previous group of <deleted> doesn't make you any less of an <deleted>.