bkkgriz Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 This is the second container that has crushed a car in the last week. Should containers just roll off of trailers this easily? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Some rather nasty and off-topic posts have been deleted along with replies. Stay on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loles Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 This is horrible. Sounds unbelievable. I've never heard of something like this happening. Listen better Amigo, this happens only in BKK around 25 - 30 times per year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showbags Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Holy shit batman, thats just like you'd buy a van from IKEA....could have been anyone...lucky not a bus full off kids....driven under that overpass meself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallPalm Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 probably never locked down in the first place, look at the curve in the overpass, how fast was the idiot driver going for a container to tip from the truck in the first place. People wonder why there are so many deaths on the roads in Thailand, idiot drivers that have no idea about the road rules or speed limits is a start, they are all cowboys in the trucks and buses.Oh they have an idea alright when you get ones license, total disregard for life and not having to face responsibility for ones actions is the problem. If this happened in Australia, at least 5 years in goal and the owner operators at least 7 years in goal with a massive fine as well. PTP would do well implementing such measures. Again no rule of law or truth in sentencing lays the problem. No one has to account for ones actions... Dear dear so simple yet so hard...Sent from my i-mobile i-STYLE 8.2 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Accountability?! Don't be silly, that might cause someone to 'lose face'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrens54 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 probably never locked down in the first place, look at the curve in the overpass, how fast was the idiot driver going for a container to tip from the truck in the first place. People wonder why there are so many deaths on the roads in Thailand, idiot drivers that have no idea about the road rules or speed limits is a start, they are all cowboys in the trucks and buses. Don't forget the idiots driving the Red Mini Buses in CNX and of course those who "OWN THE ROAD" and drive Grey Mini vans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim walker Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 RIP to the poor van driver I thought these containers had four locks one in each corner and could not come loose from the trailers as once laid on they locked in to the trailer and had to be all manually released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomyummer Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Did the driver of the trailer truck stop or typically run from the scene? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 When I consider all the people going to Thai temples for "good luck" I can't help but think that all the bad luck has to go somewhere. . . . I'm off to the temple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRSoul Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Apart from the box not being fastened down..we've all seen the way Thai truck drivers just HAVE to swing their vehicles out to pass the vehicle in front..creating a kind of whiplash effect on the trailer being towed..they slew the vehicle to the right (always without warning), to get over to the next lane, then immediately correct the action with an equally harsh motion..then they wonder why 10 seconds later they're viewing the scenery from a sideways angle.. Your "just HAVE to" is false logic, because there is no NEED to overtake the vehicle in front if it requires a dangerous manoeuvre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espinoza Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Because the trainde Thai drivers do not lock the containers. They are much to lazy to do that. It's not hard to make those container trailers flip....I saw it happen about a year ago over here on the Outer Ring/#9 road in western Bangkok with one of those two container/two trailer rigs when the truck driver quickly changed lanes (quickly went from a middle lane to a left lane)....the rear trailer began flipping first and took the lead container trailer with it....both container trailers ended up laying on their sides. Fortunately no one was injured, but only because no vehicles were in the left most lane where the trailers flipped and ended up on their side. Just stupid driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espinoza Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 This is an exxcelent example where Thailand have lack of government. No government in Thailand the last 50 years have had a thought about road safety. One more reason to get Ms Yingluck of the throne. Mr Abihisit did not do anything better, so he should not get the throne back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noitom Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 'It worked its way loose." A Thai euphemism for careless and negligent operations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rionoir Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) I think some people are confusing this with a typical dry van trailer. These containers are separate from the chassis (wheels and frame), and are removed from the wheels to put onto boats to send overseas or onto railcars. I still have to see the first that has been secured on the trailer. There is no way to tell from a distance if one of these is secured to the chassis. They have locking mechanisms in all four corners - the two in the back corners lock from underneath, and the two in the front are horizontal pins that go into the container. These need to be inspected up close, as you've got to look in a small hole to see if the mechanism is locked properly or not. We put zip ties on the locking mechanisms to make sure they don't unlock, but obviously that probably has never happened in Thailand. As I said, I personally keep a good distance from these trucks even in the US where we are regulated up the behind... I would never be within a mile of one of these in Thailand. BTW a good way to tell an intermodal container like this from a regular dry van (which could never separate from the chassis like this) is that the intermodal containers are wavy on the sides, making them more sturdy (since they need to support the weight from being stacked on the ships). You can't really see it on the picture from that angle, but if you look up "intermodal container" on google you'll see it. Edited February 3, 2014 by Rionoir 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbine1125 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 This is horrible. Sounds unbelievable. I've never heard of something like this happening. It happens quite a lot near where I live in Minburi. Lorry drivers trying to beat the lights and container not fastened down. Luckly on one hurt or killed yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGImInPattaya Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Horrible way to go. Condolences to his family. RIP What do you mean? I'd say it's probably one of the best...totally unexpected and likely instantaneous from the look of the van. It's a tragedy for him and the family sure but as a way to die...not so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGImInPattaya Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 TV posters ....Make EVERYDAY COUNT !!!!! .... could happen to anyone, anytime !! ....... Tragic !!!! ...... Condolences ...... Thank you for reminding us of the cliché of the century (millennium?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGImInPattaya Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 This stuff really only happens in Thailand. Sometimes this place is just so surreal. This "stuff" really happens everywhere, globally, take your pick: https://www.google.co.th/search?q=news+reports+of+containers+crushing+cars&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&gws_rd=cr&ei=hXnvUu7HIMWQigfg_4CYBw Yep sure does...another knee-jerk Thai bashing post from a clueless T-V'er...no surprise in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canman Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 They almost never engage the container locks on these trucks. This happens often in Thailand and the drivers and trucking company should be prosecuted for manslaughter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estrada Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 A separate incident was discussed on TV a week ago. We designed these containers to be locked down to the trailer with twist locks that slot up into the corner posts. Very easy to use and renders the container safely secured to the trailer. But in the land where the average safety gear worn by workers in Thailand is a floppy hat and flip-flops, there is no little hope of a change. The Thai Safety sign "Safety First" should really say "Safety First Death Second". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurentbkk Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 They didnt mentioned the 19yo inexperience truck driver who was driving too fast of course ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantareiyingluck Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 It is indeed horrible and unnecessary. Due to ignorance or time pressure, drivers do not lock with the twist locks the corners of the containers. I see it on a daily base. Containers jumping up from the trailer at speedbumps etc. I always keep well distanced from trailers with containers especially when they are speeding. Another factor is load within the container is often not properly lashed. Like paper rolls (+ 1.000 kg each) or drums with chemicals. All to save money and time. Tyre conditions of most trailers and trucks as well poor, very poor in Thailand. One should use dunnage bags to stow load or lashing material. Cordstrap is a company specialised in such things (but they cost money.......). In most countries in Europe your driving license will be revoked if driving with an unlocked container. Last weekend I saw an overloaded truck + trailer with sugar cane coming from Cambodia. It flipped over. Of course. Top heavy. If you are next or close to such vehicle you are gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rionoir Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Oh those stupid trucks that are loaded three times too high... used to see at least one tipped over every time I went through the mountains on the way to Mae Sai. Yet drugs are illegal. lol What a ridiculous set of priorities... you can kill others, just not yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 no understanding of laws of physics + no concept of safety measures + no law enforcement + ridiculously low penalties + company owners' impunity through bribes = fubar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiready Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Only here will you hear of such...because they NEVER secure a load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney R Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 That's exceptionally poor luck. "Luck" had nothing to do with it . Poor safety standards and driving skills (which includes checking your load to see if it is secure) is the reason pure and simple . Condolences to the drivers family and RIP for the driver . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaurene Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 My God a 40ft container, drive obviously not locked the unit down, charge the bastard with murder, I bet he is under 30 yrs old, prob 24-25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclueng Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Incredibly bad luck...RIP to the van driver...that had to be one very messy clean up, feel bad for the guys who had to do that...sheesh. The containers should be secured in the corners to the chassis, think it is pretty standard setup worldwide. I agree GAS, condolences to the innocent van driver. As to the accident if the container was travelling on an approved trailer chassis with standard corner locking mechanisms locks.jpg used internationally on trucks, trains and ships, then it is doubtful the container would have shifted. The photo angle suggests he was not on the actual " Uttaraphimuk Elevated Tollway" but on one of the elevated ramps leading to or from PathumThani west or east. Perhaps he was taking the curve too fast and the container shifted with fatal results. The potential for more deaths in that very busy area is incredible. IMHO. I have seen very few ISO Container Chassis with twist locks in Thailand. Very unsafe to put on a flatbed without tie-downs. TIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailandbeachisland Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 At least they don't loose the container content ! When my container fell from a boat in the storm I got nothing !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dknslowly Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 This happens so often. Next time you follow a container carrier, look to see if the fastening bolt is in place... The number of times it isn't is just staggering. RIP driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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