Thai Army refuses govts request for troops to protect PM Yingluck

[insolentminx]

So how long before things "really" kick off?

Anyone venture to guess? C'mon now.....so many armchair quarterbacks here on TV you must surely have some idea or opinion.

Myself? No clue really......but I can tell you that I could give a rat's *@# what happens to these people. I'm a tourist, nothing more. Long as my money goes as far as it can - I could care less. Sounds harsh I realize....but let's face the facts - none of these Thai people you all care for give a $%@# about us foreigners, so why should we care about what happens to them? It's their country, let them fight and if necessary, die for it. Most other developed nations on the planet had similar periods of strife and despair. Why should Thailand be any different?

Change sometimes happens only after the most extreme measures take place.

[rubl]

government can rely on police, just it's not very convenient now to use lethal force against armed mob. The mob hates cops, and it's reciprocated, so it could be a shooting spree.

that's why army was asked, which is seen neutral.

now air force is involved, which means a drift within the army and a deeper devision of the unmentionable

Army seen as neutral? Wow, I didn't know. Listening to all pro-government posters here I thought the army was on the side of the protesters.

BTW I'm really happy that it's 'not very convenient' to use legal force against the 'mob'. The anti-government protesters will be happy as well, I'd say

[ramrod711]

His remark came amid speculation that the Royal Thai Army might be distancing itself from Ms. Yingluck′s embattled government.

I think she should worry more about her concern that her lapdog Tarit and the police can't protect her.

[taony]

Wait, if there's a C, we can't buy beer? Not even at the supermarket in the daytime?

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[ShannonT]

The positive point of the response is that she still can get unnoticed on the plane to Dubai.

Boohoo, Dubai, boohoo .....

Cry cry cry, ...

Don't you guys have a new argument yet?

Edited February 5, 2014 by ShannonT

[MunterHunter]

No she is a caretaker PM, she has failed miserably whilst PM, shes up on several charges of which she will get thrown out of office over (and have her party dissolved)

The only respect shes earned is the same respect you give to any vermin in your house...

PM

Caretaker PM

PM in a red dress

you are only stirring up the masses for your own sake, and do the protestors no favours

all you doing is giving the Red Shirts reason to call the protestors non civilised

As she is or was, no matter you personal feeling, she deserves the respect of the office

And my wife aggress and she is out the protesting

Oooop sorry I never thought of it

The Thai wife says you are probably closetred shirts posseing as PTP haters

this way you give them the right of reply

Obviously your wife is wrong, im very anti red-shirt/ptp

Please enlighten me as to how my comments on an english speaking/farang discussion forum have any affect or bearing on the protests or their red shirt adversaries?

In my culture, respect is earned not automatic... and thus far, in my eyes, YL has done nothing to earn respect, on the contrary most of what she does/has done earns contempt.

Trust me when i say my views on YL are civilized and polite compaired to what my thai wife and her family think of YL

but you are entitled to your opinion, as i am to mine...

Edited February 5, 2014 by MunterHunter

[BSJ]

I don't get it. Yingluck has at least 6 armed security specialists with her when she is out and about....plus police officers doing their bit to smooth the way. So, how come she needs extra protection? Has there been an attempt on her life?

[JesseFrank]

I don't get it. Yingluck has at least 6 armed security specialists with her when she is out and about....plus police officers doing their bit to smooth the way. So, how come she needs extra protection? Has there been an attempt on her life?

Suthep has said he's gonna screw her.

[northernjohn]

government can rely on police, just it's not very convenient now to use lethal force against armed mob. The mob hates cops, and it's reciprocated, so it could be a shooting spree.

that's why army was asked, which is seen neutral.

now air force is involved, which means a drift within the army and a deeper devision of the unmentionable

Just goes to show you how much disunity in the country the Shinawatra's have managed to create and still they hang on. I am surprised they haven't left. I don't think there is any more money in the treasury for them to transfer to Dubai.

Getting on in years I thought the Shinawatra clan controlled the police.

Maybe they do and know how ineffective they really are. Why not get the red shirt brigade to protect her. Oop's forgot they are busy trying to cause trouble with the anti government protestors. Looks like she is in between a rock and a hard place. Maybe her brother could send her some of his black shirts.

[northernjohn]

government can rely on police, just it's not very convenient now to use lethal force against armed mob. The mob hates cops, and it's reciprocated, so it could be a shooting spree.

that's why army was asked, which is seen neutral.

now air force is involved, which means a drift within the army and a deeper devision of the unmentionable

Just goes to show you how much disunity in the country the Shinawatra's have managed to create and still they hang on. I am surprised they haven't left. I don't think there is any more money in the treasury for them to transfer to Dubai.

Getting on in years I thought the Shinawatra clan controlled the police.

Maybe they do and know how ineffective they really are. Why not get the red shirt brigade to protect her. Oop's forgot they are busy trying to cause trouble with the anti government protestors. Looks like she is in between a rock and a hard place. Maybe her brother could send her some of his black shirts.

[Thai at Heart]

speaking of the army , any stats on how big the force is ? i mean fulltime, not these kids that go on a holiday camp for two years ....63 million people i imagine it must be fairly large ....

Big enough to subjugate the entire thai population.

[fab4]

Surely this is the role of the police not the army?

You'd think with so many close aides being connected to the police (Thaksin, Chalerm, Podge etc.) she'd be better looked after by them anyway.

Ask yourself, where did khun mark hide during 2010? Was it a police "barracks"?

[ratcatcher]

Surely this is the role of the police not the army?

You'd think with so many close aides being connected to the police (Thaksin, Chalerm, Podge etc.) she'd be better looked after by them anyway.

Ask yourself, where did khun mark hide during 2010? Was it a police "barracks"?

I thought the RTP took collective vacations during 2010 protests.

[Gweiloman]

government can rely on police, just it's not very convenient now to use lethal force against armed mob. The mob hates cops, and it's reciprocated, so it could be a shooting spree.

that's why army was asked, which is seen neutral.

now air force is involved, which means a drift within the army and a deeper devision of the unmentionable

Just goes to show you how much disunity in the country the Shinawatra's have managed to create and still they hang on. I am surprised they haven't left. I don't think there is any more money in the treasury for them to transfer to Dubai.

Getting on in years I thought the Shinawatra clan controlled the police.

Maybe they do and know how ineffective they really are. Why not get the red shirt brigade to protect her. Oop's forgot they are busy trying to cause trouble with the anti government protestors. Looks like she is in between a rock and a hard place. Maybe her brother could send her some of his black shirts.

Making the same post multiple times doesn't make it truer.

[ShannonT]

government can rely on police, just it's not very convenient now to use lethal force against armed mob. The mob hates cops, and it's reciprocated, so it could be a shooting spree.

that's why army was asked, which is seen neutral.

now air force is involved, which means a drift within the army and a deeper devision of the unmentionable

Just goes to show you how much disunity in the country the Shinawatra's have managed to create and still they hang on. I am surprised they haven't left. I don't think there is any more money in the treasury for them to transfer to Dubai.

Getting on in years I thought the Shinawatra clan controlled the police.

Maybe they do and know how ineffective they really are. Why not get the red shirt brigade to protect her. Oop's forgot they are busy trying to cause trouble with the anti government protestors. Looks like she is in between a rock and a hard place. Maybe her brother could send her some of his black shirts.

There are people in Thailand hanging onto power for much longer than the Shinawatras.

[Gummigalgen]

Time for a foreign invasion. This country gets more deformed and twisted day by day. Forget the xenofobism and let foreigners (knowledge migrants) show Thais how to live in peace on equal grounds. No matter what color, race, geographic origin, wealth. This country is soo scre... that I decided today to leave. My children will not receive more of this juvenile 'education' from politics or people in the street. Selfdestruction; that will be the goal for many many Thais.

[heybruce]

I'm amazed at the number of posters who don't think the army should be subservient to the civilian government or that the party that lost in the last election can decide they will not accept the results of the election. Clearly the Democrats aren't the only ones who don't believe in democracy.

A question for the western posters: There have been a number of western countries that experienced economic chaos caused in whole or part by incompetent government. Did you advocate having these governments toppled by a military coup or mob rule?

[MunterHunter]

There are people in Thailand hanging onto power for much longer than the Shinawatras.

Care to ellaborate on whom that might be, given the fact that PTP are (were) currently 'in power'?

[Mosha]

One would have to assume being caretaker DM doesn't carry much weight.

[ShannonT]

There are people in Thailand hanging onto power for much longer than the Shinawatras.

Care to ellaborate on whom that might be, given the fact that PTP are (were) currently 'in power'?

Puea Thai are the current government, but are they really "in power"?

Maybe it's time to let go for the good of the country.

[geriatrickid]

The army leader has a better head on his shoulders than the rest of the leaders in this country. Maybe he should run for PM. At least he follows proceedures.

He is not under the caretaker gov orders anyway. Only the king can order him what to do.

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At least you recognize one of Thailand's impediments to a full democracy.

The military does not consider itself subject to civilian oversight. That goes a long way in explaining why the military runs a state within a state.

Egypt and China have a similar structure where the military has its own businesses, investments and private social services.

[rubl]

I'm amazed at the number of posters who don't think the army should be subservient to the civilian government or that the party that lost in the last election can decide they will not accept the results of the election. Clearly the Democrats aren't the only ones who don't believe in democracy.

A question for the western posters: There have been a number of western countries that experienced economic chaos caused in whole or part by incompetent government. Did you advocate having these governments toppled by a military coup or mob rule?

Did we have a fully operation democratic system with checks and balances in place in those Western Countries ? No offence meant, but even in Greece, Spain and Portugal things finally work.

[northernjohn]

government can rely on police, just it's not very convenient now to use lethal force against armed mob. The mob hates cops, and it's reciprocated, so it could be a shooting spree.

that's why army was asked, which is seen neutral.

now air force is involved, which means a drift within the army and a deeper devision of the unmentionable

Just goes to show you the depth of the disunity in the country the Thaksin clan have caused.

They control the police and know how useless they are unless they are collecting tea money. They have the red shirts but at the moment they are busy trying tio cause trouble with the anti government protestors.

Maybe she could talk her clone into sending in some of his black shirts. Or form a commission to look into it chaired by the ear medicine man.

[Mosha]

There are people in Thailand hanging onto power for much longer than the Shinawatras.

Care to ellaborate on whom that might be, given the fact that PTP are (were) currently 'in power'?

I'd say he is treading a pretty thin line.

[ShannonT]

Time for a foreign invasion. This country gets more deformed and twisted day by day. Forget the xenofobism and let foreigners (knowledge migrants) show Thais how to live in peace on equal grounds. No matter what color, race, geographic origin, wealth. This country is soo scre... that I decided today to leave. My children will not receive more of this juvenile 'education' from politics or people in the street. Selfdestruction; that will be the goal for many many Thais.

That is one thing I agree with.

The United Nations could send a temporary caretaker government until Thais are "re-educated".

[rubl]

The army leader has a better head on his shoulders than the rest of the leaders in this country. Maybe he should run for PM. At least he follows proceedures.

He is not under the caretaker gov orders anyway. Only the king can order him what to do.

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At least you recognize one of Thailand's impediments to a full democracy.

The military does not consider itself subject to civilian oversight. That goes a long way in explaining why the military runs a state within a state.

Egypt and China have a similar structure where the military has its own businesses, investments and private social services.

but ... but ... can just any T, D and H ask for army protection? Wouldn't there be an established procedure as to how 'eligeble' figures might ask for army protection, with even some paragraphs on 'urgent', 'emergency' requests? It's that what the general stated?

[geriatrickid]

The army leader has a better head on his shoulders than the rest of the leaders in this country. Maybe he should run for PM. At least he follows proceedures.

He is not under the caretaker gov orders anyway. Only the king can order him what to do.

Sent from my GT-S5310 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

At least you recognize one of Thailand's impediments to a full democracy.

The military does not consider itself subject to civilian oversight. That goes a long way in explaining why the military runs a state within a state.

Egypt and China have a similar structure where the military has its own businesses, investments and private social services.

but ... but ... can just any T, D and H ask for army protection? Wouldn't there be an established procedure as to how 'eligeble' figures might ask for army protection, with even some paragraphs on 'urgent', 'emergency' requests? It's that what the general stated?

There are indeed legitimate channels in which to request assistance. This serves to keep the request lawful and to prevent abuses. However, as a State of Emergency is in effect and the PM's safety was at risk, the request to provide assistance in keeping the PM safe was not unreasonable. This was not a request to attack anyone or to even enforce the provisions of the SOE or arrest warrants. It was a request to secure a government building and to respond to an urgent need to prevent physical harm to the PM..

[Showbags]

'will you come and protect me please'...no...'preety please'....no.....'I have ice creams'....what flavour.....'rice'....no

[kimamey]

The positive point of the response is that she still can get unnoticed on the plane to Dubai.

Boohoo, Dubai, boohoo .....

Cry cry cry, ...

Don't you guys have a new argument yet?

I agree it's not a very original or informative post. It does however offer a more adult use of the English language which may grant it somewhat more gravitas than you own.

[northernjohn]

The army leader has a better head on his shoulders than the rest of the leaders in this country. Maybe he should run for PM. At least he follows proceedures.

He is not under the caretaker gov orders anyway. Only the king can order him what to do.

Sent from my GT-S5310 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

At least you recognize one of Thailand's impediments to a full democracy.

The military does not consider itself subject to civilian oversight. That goes a long way in explaining why the military runs a state within a state.

Egypt and China have a similar structure where the military has its own businesses, investments and private social services.

Are you suggesting removing the man who can order the army around. Would they not have to make big changes in the army when they took away their duty to protect that man? The one steady influence year after year and you want to turn it over to a procession of political hack's.

While we are on the subject you brought it up. What is your definition of a full democracy and what country has one and what is the difference if the people are being oppressed by the government no matter what type of government they have?

It might behoove you to start thinking about the welfare of the people instead of what is written on a piece of paper. If you have been following this situation you know that what is written on a piece of paper means nothing to the PTP.