How to get multi-entry NON-B without workpermit?

[Cybervlad]

Hello,

I need to reside in Thailand almost all the time to look after Thai company. I do not plan to work in this company (there are Thai staff, who make all job). So, I don't need work permit.

As far as I understand, in this case I can get 3-month multi-entry NON-B visa with validity period ("enter before") 1 year. So, I can come to Thailand many times during the year and stay no more than 3 month each time.

What papers do I need for such type of visa?

Can I get this visa in neighbor countries (Laos, Malaysia etc)? I am citizen of Russia, but currently already in Thailand. Going back to Russia for apply in Thai Consulate in Russia is quite expensive option

If someone can recommend some lawyer in Bangkok, who can arrange everything, it would be appreciated.

[ubonjoe]

There is no nearby location where you can get a multiple entry non-b visa without having a work permit. I suspect you will need to go back to Russia to get it.

A lawyer could only help you get the documents together.

General requirements to get it can be found here: http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/123/15388-Non-Immigrant-Visa-%22B%22-(for-Business-and.html

[Cybervlad]

ubonjoe, thanks you!

[Zumteufel]

Why would you need to get a Non-B if you do not plan to work? A 3 month tourist visa (which can be renewed) would work just fine?

[MobileContent]

The best is to get it in your home country and have the letter ready plus all the paper work.

The letter should mention that you are a Consultant and advisor to the company management and then it should be ok.

I am flying down to Germany in two weeks time to pick up my multiply entry None Immigrant B visa and hope to get another 1 year (4 entries).

[Cybervlad]

Why would you need to get a Non-B if you do not plan to work? A 3 month tourist visa (which can be renewed) would work just fine?

Because I am not tourist and want to enter Thailand for "conduct business".

See 2.1 (2) at: http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/123/15388-Non-Immigrant-Visa-%22B%22-%28for-Business-and.html

Tourist visa given not for 3 month, but 60 days with validity period of use 3 months.

And if I leave Thailand, tourist visa became "used", should get new.

With multi-entry NON-B visa I can come to Thailand and leave to another countries as much, as I need. Every month, every week (if needed). Without re-apply for visa or obtaining re-entry permit.

[sirchai]

The best is to get it in your home country and have the letter ready plus all the paper work.

The letter should mention that you are a Consultant and advisor to the company management and then it should be ok.

I am flying down to Germany in two weeks time to pick up my multiply entry None Immigrant B visa and hope to get another 1 year (4 entries).

What's up with you that you fly "down" to Germany? The earth isn't flat anymore.

If a trip to Russia is too expensive, then I have my doubts about thew OP's curiosity- .

[BlackJack]

you cant get a non B as its for business visa

[Cybervlad]

If a trip to Russia is too expensive, then I have my doubts about thew OP's curiosity- .

What so funny? RT ticket to Russia costs around 30,000-40,000 THB. Compare with the trip to Vientiane or Sawannaket.

I can find better use for that $1,000

Anyway, ubonjoe already gave exhaustive answer.

[ericthai]

If you are going to be traveling in and out of Thailand on a regular basis then why do you need a visa at all? Just come in on visa exempt and that grants you 30 days.

Also your comment a 3 month non-B is valid for 1 year so you can come and go for 1 year but not stay more then 3 months is incorrect.

Once you enter Thailand it is only valid for 90 days. It's being valid for 1 year means you have up to 1 year to use the visa. You can not keep Leaving and entering Thailand

for 1 year on this visa. For that you need a 1 year multi-entry non-B, nobody local issues these anymore, might be able to get one in Russia. Get a letter from your company with all documents showing taxes paid etc and try. Are you a shareholder in the company, if so bring those documents as this will help too. I was getting the run around in Laos about a year ago until they saw I was a share holder in the company.

[Cybervlad]

ericthai, thanks!

We speak about different types of visa. 1-year multi-entry visa mean that I can enter/leave Thailand many times, if need. But if not need, I can stay in Thailand 1 year (only make 90-days report at Immigration). But I speak about another type multi-entry visa, which allow to stay in Thailand 90 days, but you can enter Thailand many times during the year. With border-run every 90 days it is possible to stay in Thailand with this type of visa up to 15 months. Consulate in Russia issue such type of visa if you present letters from Thai and Russian companies, and evidence that those company have business connection.

I can get all those papers (because Thai company really trades with Russia, it not fake). But my question was: can I get this visa in neighbor countries or not. And I have already got answer: cannot, should go to Russia

p.s. See http://en.thaiembassymoscow.com/info/?section=d6&artid=127. Can get even multiple entry NON-B visa with validity 3 years.

[TramsRepus]

I thought Russians got, not 30, but 90 days permit to stay at the border.

[Cybervlad]

I thought Russians got, not 30, but 90 days permit to stay at the border.

No, only 30

90-days got citizen of South Korea.

[beechguy]

you cant get a non B as its for business visa

Nonsense, he will be conducting business.

[ubonjoe]

p.s. See http://en.thaiembassymoscow.com/info/?section=d6&artid=127. Can get even multiple entry NON-B visa with validity 3 years.

That only appears on the fees page.

There are very few of these issued and if I recall correctly it takes some time to get because it has to be approved by the MFA in Bangkok.

Info here on basic requirements: http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/123/15386-Three-year-Non-Immigrant-Visa-%22B%22-(for-B.html

[BlackJack]

you cant get a non B as its for business visa

Nonsense, he will be conducting business.

i dont understand what youre saying

[beechguy]

you cant get a non B as its for business visa

Nonsense, he will be conducting business.

i dont understand what youre saying

Perhaps it's your style of writing. Did you intend to write he can get a visa for business? Or can't, as in cannot?

The answer is, of course he can get a "B" to conduct business, and it is not necessary to have a work permit if he isn't working.

[BlackJack]

you cant get a non B as its for business visa

Nonsense, he will be conducting business.

i dont understand what youre saying

Perhaps it's your style of writing. Did you intend to write he can get a visa for business? Or can't, as in cannot?

The answer is, of course he can get a "B" to conduct business, and it is not necessary to have a work permit if he isn't working.

i wrote cant and I meant cant

a non B is a business visa and it is needed to get a work permit

i have just gone through the process and it is clearly marked on my passport that I have a certain amount of time to get a work permit

it also states the company i will be working for

you cant get a non b if you dont submit the correct paperwork to the Embassy or Consulate

cant

[ubonjoe]

The are two lists of requirements to get a B visa one for working the other for business. See: http://www.mfa.go.th...siness-and.html

[BlackJack]

OP said Non B

[beechguy]

OP said Non B

And you are plain and simply wrong. I own my own company, Treaty of Amity(99.4%) and have had Non-"B" Visas issued from three different countries without a problem. I do not require a work permit for my activities.

How about educating yourself before posting more erroneous information.

[digitalchromakey]

Here is a link the Thai MFA list of Non 'B' Visa types and criteriae:

http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/123/15388-Non-Immigrant-Visa-%22B%22-(for-Business-and.html

Look at 2.1 (2) the criteriae are pretty clear.

However, just to confuse, section 3.1 states that (presumably for all categories of Non 'B') one is expected to apply for a Work Permit once entering the Kingdom of Thailand.

Remember the Thai Working of Aliens Act has a very broad definition of 'work' which even covers areas where no remuneration is taken.

The OP will certainly also not be able to extend any Business Non 'B' obtained without holding a valid Work Permit.

[Maestro]

I am flying down to Germany in two weeks time to pick up my multiply entry None Immigrant B visa and hope to get another 1 year (4 entries).

Your multiple-entry non-B visa will allow you to make an unlimited number of entries into Thailand during the visa's period of validity.

[BlackJack]

 

Here is a link the Thai MFA list of Non 'B' Visa types and criteriae:

http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/123/15388-Non-Immigrant-Visa-%22B%22-(for-Business-and.html

Look at 2.1 (2) the criteriae are pretty clear.

However, just to confuse, section 3.1 states that (presumably for all categories of Non 'B') one is expected to apply for a Work Permit once entering the Kingdom of Thailand.

Remember the Thai Working of Aliens Act has a very broad definition of 'work' which even covers areas where no remuneration is taken.

The OP will certainly also not be able to extend any Business Non 'B' obtained without holding a valid Work Permit.

 

Yes the definition of work can include talking and thinking

something the West calls consulting

[beechguy]

 

OP said Non B

And you are plain and simply wrong. I own my own company, Treaty of Amity(99.4%) and have had Non-"B" Visas issued from three different countries without a problem. I do not require a work permit for my activities.

How about educating yourself before posting more erroneous information.

 

now Treaty of Amity(99.4%) is something completely different

if you read the OP - it has nothing to do with Treaty of Amity(99.4%) - this is for USA - it is not for Russians

this is your personal situation

thai888 Law Co., Ltd.

It has nothing to do with Amity businesses or not, if you can't read and comprehend the information provided in the links, perhaps someone can help you.

Bottom line, Non-Immigrant "B" visas are issued for conducting business and Thailand. Read Section 1, 1.1 and 2, part 2.

[BlackJack]

 

OP said Non B

And you are plain and simply wrong. I own my own company, Treaty of Amity(99.4%) and have had Non-"B" Visas issued from three different countries without a problem. I do not require a work permit for my activities.

How about educating yourself before posting more erroneous information.

 

now Treaty of Amity(99.4%) is something completely different

if you read the OP - it has nothing to do with Treaty of Amity(99.4%) - this is for USA - it is not for Russians

this is your personal situation

thai888 Law Co., Ltd.

It has nothing to do with Amity businesses or not, if you can't read and comprehend the information provided in the links, perhaps someone can help you.

Bottom line, Non-Immigrant "B" visas are issued for conducting business and Thailand. Read Section 1, 1.1 and 2, part 2.

I cannot understand you

you talk about yourself and the OP )original poster is talking about his personal issue

you just dont understand

if you read the OP then you can address his issues and not your experience