monkeycountry Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 "a cabinet member in the last government was charged with many counts of corruption, including some related to that government's rice insurance scheme. However, there had been no judicial development in that particular case, while it had taken only 21 days to investigate and bring charges against her." This does raise a question of bias and legitimacy in the NAAC. From what "evidence" that NAAC has made public against Yingluck, most seems to have been supplied by the PDRC and former military leaders who participated in the military coup with no independent (aka lack of conflict) third party collaboration. If Yingluck is honestly guilty - that's justice. But a rush by NAAC to give the appearance of predetermining her guilt by whatever motivations and influences through an abrogation of due process of law does not bode well for Thailand's judicial system, its people, the Constitution, nor for democracy as a whole. And Thailand will become further isolated from the international community. Tarit and the DSI, who works for Yingluck, does the exact same thing, not just once in a while, but on a daily basis against anyone who opposes Yingluck, no matter how absurd the charges are. I do not see you complaining about that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeycountry Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 The NACC charges against caretaker PM is illegal and unconstitutional. Its investigation not transparent for it involved peoples in conflict of interests. It did not give due justice process to the accused. The statements NACC made to the public during investigation were prejudicial and sub judice. It is politically motivated. Would you say that as well for the daily and speedy charges laid by Tarit from the DSI against virtually all Yinglucks opponents? Or is it only politically motivated one way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeycountry Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 The NACC charges against caretaker PM is illegal and unconstitutional. Its investigation not transparent for it involved peoples in conflict of interests. It did not give due justice process to the accused. The statements NACC made to the public during investigation were prejudicial and sub judice. It is politically motivated. What is illegal about the charges? What is unconstitutional about the charges? What are the conflicts of interest? Why were the statements prejudicial? What due justice process is required BEFORE there are any charges? She is a politician. The case involves government policy. Of course you're going to use the excuse of "politically motivated". I had made my comments on the issuing of the charges and will leave it as that to the parties involved. Discussion on it is considered sub judice. icommunity though his audience would all be red shirts, where reason and logic is not needed when making a statement. Unfortunately they were not all red shirts, he got challenged, and decided that he has no further comments 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smileydude Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 For me, "hasty and rice scheme is good" as a rebuttal from the PM is probably the best reply you're ever going to get from Yingluck. She really has about that much knowledge about it other then it being a money making scheme. The lights were never on and never will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 "She said she had always been committed to serving Thais with honesty, integrity and her utmost efforts." Please give the lady 10 points for effort. The rice scheme is still a flop. I'd give her one......i mean i would give her 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
than Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 this investigation begun two years ago, she receive warning from a lot of agency, she made nothing They are a lot of evidence of en neglect duty..... STOP to blame over YL You are caretaker prime minister, you was prime minister, you are accountable of all act commit by your government show your responsibility... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patpending Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Things will get very interesting at the courts now. way to go is to send protesters (pro-gov) into Court buildings and occupy them now that all state buildiings have been deemed fair game... By who... The Courts. Shut down the cases against Yingluk instantly. First showing today, but who in the Court House can move them on? hehehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 nothing unexpected here....just the clear and very obvious bias and allegiance of political appointees. The elite looking after the elite. Staus quo for the dark forces in Thai society Poor, poor Prbkk (and all his other personalities) the poor thing is sweating now, the axe is just about to fall on his beloved Yingluck and he (they) are about to lose a lot of face. Cannot wait for that day to come, I will be celebrating big time, will really get stuck into the "ear medicine"...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scamper Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 (edited) " The bureaucratic system has its own standards and regulations, so my work at the policy level does not have the authority to directly operate, order or overrule the work of government officials in any way. " So that's Yingluck's defence - she says she has nothing to do with its implementation, and besides it's all beyond her power anyway. It's an odd assertion to make, however, for someone who insists that the rice scheme was well-managed and that an investigation would prove no impropriety. More likely, it attempts to set up an alibi to evade prosecution for the corruptive practices that she knows are present. But if this is Yingluck's defence, why does she make her case on her facebook page ? Why does she refuse to go the NACC next week and answer the NACC's questions about it, which is what she is constitutionally obligated to do ? And why then does she pair her defense with spurious attacks on the NACC itself, in effect calling them the beck and call of the PDRC ? By using her office to discredit a constitutionally enabled commission, she is committing an impeachable offense. By not seeing them as requested in their investigation is an impeachable offense. Edited February 21, 2014 by Scamper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winstonc Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 nothing unexpected here....just the clear and very obvious bias and allegiance of political appointees. The elite looking after the elite. Staus quo for the dark forces in Thai society so you want them to sit on it and say nothing your post is desperation at its least... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunken Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Her response is nothing but a mixture of lies and BS. If she had followed her own (rhetorical) advice to tackle corruption in the rice scheme and allowed a proper investigation into claims from a senior ministry insider, she might have some comeback. Most likely not allowed by big bro'. As for the farmers benefitting - yes the poor farmers got around 18% of the benefits and the poorest (who consume their own rice) got 0%. Added to that is no effort from her to have the Commerce & Finance ministers actually tell the truth about stocks, spending, sales (particularly non-existent ones) and of course lying to blame Suthep for the current non-payment crisis. It's always the same mantra - those awful elite, ammart, fascist, terrorist, and Dem-supporting judges and investigators are never fair. (Except of course in Mr T's assets scrutiny case). And the red acolytes here believe her. Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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