lakecross Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Specifically, your home country's immigration department? Obviously they will know if you leave your home country, and they will know your destination country, but if you are crossing international borders on your travels, by air or road, can they pin you down to a particular country? Or do they just know where you flew out to initially? One would assume they can track your passport's progress, otherwise it would seem easy for fugitives to evade capture. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skint Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 At some point you will need a new passport it would be at that point I guess you are screwed. I don't know maybe a criminal can post a more relevant answer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 One would assume they can track your passport's progress, otherwise it would seem easy for fugitives to evade capture. movements can be tracked only by an international arrest warrant which is accepted by most (not all) countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 At some point you will need a new passport it would be at that point I guess you are screwed. I don't know maybe a criminal can post a more relevant answer. you home country authority can void your passport any time if there are valid reasons, i.e. "at some point" might be "any time". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post krisb Posted February 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2014 If you swan the Mekong river into Laos and got a boob job they wouldn't find you. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiftyTwo Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 They don't know where you are or where you have been. Unless they are tracking your email and phone (hardware and SIM). Change your email and phone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recom273 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Could you imagine UK immigration on behalf of the police force calling Thai immigration, just to check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeichen Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 typically speaking, each country is independant and doesn't share information with other countries who enters or exits. If there was one international computer system that tracked every single person, that would be a massive undertaking. Each country is independant right now, but who knows if there is a global governance at some point. So unless there is an interpoll warrant out for you, your home government wouldn't really know where you are or what you have been doing. It is only conspiracy theorists that believe the government is that powerful to track what countries you have travelled to or where you have worked. It is not like government authorities inform each embassy who is working in their country. Travel with ease. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMarlow Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 (edited) Yes, Lakecross, if they want to know they will know, and they will get you eventually. Keep your eyes peeled. They're probably monitoring your posting here also. Edited February 23, 2014 by MMarlow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davejones23 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Yes, Lakecross, if they want to know they will know, and they will get you eventually. Keep your eyes peeled. They're probably monitoring your posting here also. Not true at all. There are tens of thousands, or maybe even hundreds of thousands of criminals on the run. Authorities only find a tiny percentage of these. Many British criminals live in Spain, but you don't see many being caught. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalangBaa Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Only through the microchip implanted in your body that transmits your GPS location every minute to the NSA. Find it and cut it out, then you're safe. Or just go back, turn yourself in and serve your time like a man for the crime you're obviously running away from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Could you imagine UK immigration on behalf of the police force calling Thai immigration, just to check. it happens all the time. Might surprise you but there's an organisation known as Interpol (The international Criminal Police Organisation) and there's thousands of 'international' type inquiries going on every week. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I hope not regards Worgeordie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olddoc Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Word has it that the Western country with the biggest spy network in the world has incorporated GPS tracking devices into passports. So the answer would be Big Brother does know ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLCrab Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 US State Department knows where I am because I tell 'em: https://step.state.gov/step/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olddoc Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> US State Department knows where I am because I tell 'em: https://step.state.gov/step/ Many would not use that service. They hate government and live in a world of paranoia ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nisakiman Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> US State Department knows where I am because I tell 'em: https://step.state.gov/step/ Many would not use that service. They hate government and live in a world of paranoia ! Or perhaps they value their privacy. That's not paranoia. It's a desire for freedom from unwanted intrusion into ones private life by busybody state agencies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 According to the movies and TV shows they do...and I believe everything I see in the movies/TV shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRick Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 The answer to the OPs question is "Yes" they know if you are out of the country trying to collect benefits pretending to be back home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chao Lao Beach Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 One would assume they can track your passport's progress, otherwise it would seem easy for fugitives to evade capture. movements can be tracked only by an international arrest warrant which is accepted by most (not all) countries. Well, kind of. In Thailand, (and many countries) have PISCES which is a border control system provided free of charge by Uncle Sam (USA) and installed & maintained by Booz Allen Hamilton, you may know of this company as a chap called Edwards Snowdens previous employer. Personal Identification Secure Comparison and Evaluation System (PISCES). As a general rule of thumb, countries or passport holders that do visa waivers, generally share info and stuff is at their finger tips. eg, if you are a Kiwi going to Canada, it is amazing how much info they can bring up quickly on you if they want to on your entry. Don't be naughty by and girls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moojar Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Yes, Lakecross, if they want to know they will know, and they will get you eventually. Keep your eyes peeled. They're probably monitoring your posting here also. Ah, but only if you are not wearing your tin-foil hat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJIC Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Could you imagine UK immigration on behalf of the police force calling Thai immigration, just to check. Depends on the severity of the crime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estrada Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I hope not regards Worgeordie Is that a knock I can hear at your door? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSkyCowboy Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 At some point you will need a new passport it would be at that point I guess you are screwed. I don't know maybe a criminal can post a more relevant answer. They spent 100 million dollars and found Obama BIn Laden. Just a matter of time LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotary Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 At some point you will need a new passport it would be at that point I guess you are screwed. I don't know maybe a criminal can post a more relevant answer. They spent 100 million dollars and found Obama BIn Laden. Just a matter of time LOL Somehow I do not believe Obama telling me Osama is dead. I think they are having a beer together every evening on the White House lawn. Like minds drink together as normal. ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recycler Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 If it's important enough to your home countries authorities they will be able to find you. It's extremely difficult to live without any footprint, you'll need help and people you can trust and/or a lot of cash to minimize your traces. But whatever you do, someday you'll be traced! For people who use internet, mobile phones, email, let alone facebook, twitter, foursquare, etc. the latter are designed by secret services to follow your moves everywhere you go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cylon Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Some day soon, we will all be chipped,It will inserted at birth,just as they do with dogs now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailandbeachisland Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 They know nothing because I have overstayed 25 years as it seems a new trend ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawker9000 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 One would assume they can track your passport's progress, otherwise it would seem easy for fugitives to evade capture. movements can be tracked only by an international arrest warrant which is accepted by most (not all) countries. Well, kind of. In Thailand, (and many countries) have PISCES which is a border control system provided free of charge by Uncle Sam (USA) and installed & maintained by Booz Allen Hamilton, you may know of this company as a chap called Edwards Snowdens previous employer. Personal Identification Secure Comparison and Evaluation System (PISCES). As a general rule of thumb, countries or passport holders that do visa waivers, generally share info and stuff is at their finger tips. eg, if you are a Kiwi going to Canada, it is amazing how much info they can bring up quickly on you if they want to on your entry. Don't be naughty by and girls. I think you're overstating the particular role of PISCES. However, where cooperation in the tracking of a person of particular interest is requested, I'm sure Thailand cooperates most of the time, and PISCES might figure in such a request. But I don't think the US is currently "tracking" every one of its citizens overseas as they move from country-to-county, or here & there within a foreign country. (We're not even "stamped out" of the US by immigration when leaving, although I'm sure US authorities have unfettered access to airline manifests & passenger id info whenever they want.) If OTOH you're on someone's radar and they want to locate you, well, different story... And if they need to reconstruct someone's travel after-the-fact, I'm sure they can using host country immigration records as well as a variety of other "footprints" we all leave wherever we go nowadays. In countries like Thailand, Vietnam, etc., I would think it would be particularly easy since hotels, guesthouses, etc. are required by law to inform the authorities of your stays. Canada and the U.S. do have a uniquely "intimate" arrangement when it comes to sharing information on their respective citizens entering the other country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanlic Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 If you swan the Mekong river into Laos and got a boob job they wouldn't find you. Unless they drag the river Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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