Deputy govt spokeswoman Sunisa detained by PDRC

[JAG]

I think that's called kidnapping. Or maybe false imprisonment?

Have the courts granted some extra powers to the guards?

In effect yes.

If Sutheps gang come to power, I would suspect "you haven't seen anything yet"!!

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[Suriya4]

Only one word for it............Kidnapping.

Sunisa should make a formal complaint to the police to have the protest leaders arrested.

No it's not. It's false imprisonment under UK law, but as it was only an hour (in which she was probably scared witless) nothing will be done here, and I suspect it would only be a caution to the perps in the UK.

I don't know the Thai law in detaining someone against their will , even for a short time, but it's certainly not kidnapping. In the UK she could probably sue for damages for false imprisonment, but it would cost her more then she'd get in damages as it was such a short time.

It's reprehensible, certainly, and I think Suthep should formally apologise, and also make those responsible buy her a <deleted>-off bunch of flowers and make a formal apology, at the very least.

I think the Thai Court approve the protesters behavior as they bears no weapon of mass destruction.

[Yunla]

Please leave the post intact..... Don't just pick and use. Very misleading

Again, you said she was there to buy cream and I said I don't believe that story. Yes, I STILL think it was a stunt.

By the way, which politician has been abducted or beaten by the PRDC guards since they started the protest some 3 months ago? What is your reference for thinking something could have happened to her.

Well, it seemingly worked what Sunisa tried to achieve looking at your reply.

I am not misleading at all, and I resent your accusation that I am. I usually chop-off back-posts for brevity.

Your statement was pretty clear, even if I included your whole post. You did say it was a "stunt" and you did say "as if she didn't know this would happen" which is pretty clear.

As for "why do I think she might have got beaten" the answer is in the public statements that the guards captured her in order to protect her from an angry mob. What do you think they would do to her, give her a box of chocolates?

My point stands - I simply don't accept that an unarmed woman would knowingly put herself in harm's way for a publicity "stunt". I have yet to hear you support these comments, explaining why she would risk injury or kidnap just to score some party sympathy. To me this is a very serious claim and it does not fit the character of cowardly politicians or of normal women.

Edited February 26, 2014 by Yunla

[Somtamnication]

Suthep was visible upset because the guards were caught doing something wrong. Big difference!!

[Scott]

Some inflammatory posts and replies have been deleted. It is OK to snip posts and reply to the portion that is relevant. Do not snip a post in such a way as to change the meaning. Snipping a post should be done carefully.

[VINCENT2012]

PDRC core figures such as Suthep Thaugsuban and Sathit Wongnongtoei were reportedly alarmed by the detaining, announcing on stage that guards and protesters must refrain from using violence. Reporters said Mr. Suthep was visibly upset by the development.

should be upset..! and put an end of this kind of kidnaping.

if you can't controll your people how do you want to controll a all country?

good day and good night

[Fat Haggis]

Yes, it's really macho for crowds to beat up single isolated women, whether they would have been protestors or not!!

Stop the posturing please, the protests supposed to be about anti corruption, not rent a mob, as in, lets look for people who we can beat up because they disagree with out points of view, pure BS speculation that she would have been beaten up by peaceful protestors..

[Nickymaster]

Please leave the post intact..... Don't just pick and use. Very misleading

Again, you said she was there to buy cream and I said I don't believe that story. Yes, I STILL think it was a stunt.

By the way, which politician has been abducted or beaten by the PRDC guards since they started the protest some 3 months ago? What is your reference for thinking something could have happened to her.

Well, it seemingly worked what Sunisa tried to achieve looking at your reply.

I am not misleading at all, and I resent your accusation that I am. I usually chop-off back-posts for brevity.

Your statement was pretty clear, even if I included your whole post. You did say it was a "stunt" and you did say "as if she didn't know this would happen" which is pretty clear.

As for "why do I think she might have got beaten" the answer is in the public statements that the guards captured her in order to protect her from an angry mob. What do you think they would do to her, give her a box of chocolates?

My point stands - I simply don't accept that an unarmed woman would knowingly put herself in harm's way for a publicity "stunt". I have yet to hear you support these comments, explaining why she would risk injury or kidnap just to score some party sympathy. To me this is a very serious claim and it does not fit the character of cowardly politicians or of normal women.

Then we disagree. Again, you said she was there just to buy cream, I said she was there for other reasons.

There are safer places to buy cream in Thailand. She is a hardcore Thaksin supporter and proud of it. Buying cream in front of a anti Thaksin protest area was not necessary. IMO it was a stunt.

(By the way it is a bit childish to end you post with this )

Edited February 26, 2014 by Nickymaster

[gemini81]

Suthep was visible upset because the guards were caught doing something wrong. Big difference!!

What? Letting her go? Haha.

Detaining a bunch of the PTP cronies is a good bargain approach to them get to negotiate (more than now, and unlike how they stormed out 3 times in 2010 after they couldn't get all they wanted), since they don't acknowledge the law..not a bad idea to speak to them in their own language; half joking and figuratively speaking- but at the same time that may become a necessary approach if this situation doesn't improve. PTP continue the dictator style approach, which has really heightened recently, revealing they respect and accept power delegated to nor other than themselves.

Edited February 26, 2014 by gemini81

[Yunla]

Then we disagree. Again, you said she was there just to buy cream, I said she was there for other reasons.

There are safer places to buy cream in Thailand. She is a hardcore Thaksin supporter and proud of it. Buying cream in front of a anti Thaksin protest area was not necessary. IMO it was a stunt.

(By the way it is a bit childish to end you post with this )

Yes I said she was shopping, buying face-whitener or other junk - as an example of things she might have been browsing. Maybe she was going to several other shops too far away from the protest, and she didn't feel she should avoid the shops near the protest as she felt it wasn't a risk in a public shopping area.

I'm sure she's Thaksin supporter and I'm sure she isn't angelic grace etc. My comment wasn't about her as a person, it was about the fact that people should not be grabbed while out shopping, or live in fear of being grabbed, or held for an hour against their will. I condemn this act, and I would condemn it just as loudly if it was a PDRC member being abducted against their will for an hour. It is not how most people want to live in society, they want to relax and go shopping without fear. And that applies to everyone, it is a human right.

[Fat Haggis]

Double post.. internet issue..sorry

Edited February 26, 2014 by Fat Haggis

[MunterHunter]

Wow - the red shirt brigade are out in force today on this thread...

interestingly they remain less than quiet on many other threads where the UDD get slammed or YL does something stupid...

... speaks volumes, no?

[Nickymaster]

Then we disagree. Again, you said she was there just to buy cream, I said she was there for other reasons.

There are safer places to buy cream in Thailand. She is a hardcore Thaksin supporter and proud of it. Buying cream in front of a anti Thaksin protest area was not necessary. IMO it was a stunt.

(By the way it is a bit childish to end you post with this )

Yes I said she was shopping, buying face-whitener or other junk - as an example of things she might have been browsing. Maybe she was going to several other shops too far away from the protest, and she didn't feel she should avoid the shops near the protest as she felt it wasn't a risk in a public shopping area.

I'm sure she's Thaksin supporter and I'm sure she isn't angelic grace etc. My comment wasn't about her as a person, it was about the fact that people should not be grabbed while out shopping, or live in fear of being grabbed, or held for an hour against their will. I condemn this act, and I would condemn it just as loudly if it was a PDRC member being abducted against their will for an hour. It is not how most people want to live in society, they want to relax and go shopping without fear. And that applies to everyone, it is a human right.

So she was just there shopping for cream. Ok.

[gemini81]

Yes, it's really macho for crowds to beat up single isolated women, whether they would have been protestors or not!!

Stop the posturing please, the protests supposed to be about anti corruption, not rent a mob, as in, lets look for people who we can beat up because they disagree with out points of view, pure BS speculation that she would have been beaten up by peaceful protestors..

Neither beaten up nor kidnapped...detained..probably much to the surprise of her opponents who were surprised she would be retarded enough to step into the hot zone...then come out complaining about the heat. Maybe she was trying to exhibit an example of the typical behavior of red shirt foolishness? She did a nice job.

Edited February 26, 2014 by gemini81

[penwithcris]

The constant references to female members of the caretaker government and their aides only being interested in shopping expeditions and beauty therapies is becoming increasingly tiresome.

The point surely is that any individual, particularly a female, should be able to move freely around Thailand without threats or intimidation regardless of their political persuasion

Also crushingly boring are the constant references to individuals, particularly females, as 'slaves', 'puppets', 'mouthpieces' of Thaksin. Of course they are supporters of the exiled premier, and would, no doubt, welcome his return to Thailand.

So, please, less of the childish references to 'shopping expeditions', 'beauty treatments', 'puppets' and 'mouthpieces' and let's have more mature and grown up debate about this very serious political crisis

[Fat Haggis]

Articles state:

Protesters spotted the spokeswoman sitting in front of a beauty clinic and blew the whistles, prompting the security guards to check and find her.

She was taken by guards to be inside the Bangkok Museum for a while for fear that she might be harmed by some angry protesters."

She was taken to the back of the Bangkok Cultural Center building, near the stage of the Pathumwan rally site, and kept there.

PDRC core figures such as Suthep Thaugsuban and Sathit Wongnongtoei were reportedly alarmed by the detaining, announcing on stage that guards and protesters must refrain from using violence. Reporters said Mr. Suthep was visibly upset by the development.

Eeze, you're posts are sorry, but absolute drivel, for one I did not imply she was "beaten up" I said macho for a crowd to "beat a single isolated woman up" becuase that's what is being reported in that the guards stopped he from such a possibility!! Try actually reading properly without jumping to conclusions please.

Secondly, the guards who went to her aid, did NOT need to take her away from press/photographers/media or whatever and behind a building, what was wrong with taking her INSIDE and then sending someone to get the Police to escort her to safety??

Yes instead they took her out of view for 45 MINUTES before releasing her?? Yep, that works in my book, what a load of <deleted>!! They could have easily taken her 10 minutes walk to the nearest Policeman and said simple "Keep this woman safe, we prevented a possible assault on her"

Read your own article please "She was taken by guards to be inside the Bangkok Museum for a while for fear that she might be harmed by some angry protesters"

really?? why were they angry if the protest is about anti corruption? What did she do personally to make them angry? When ptotestors are angry, and baying for a pound of flesh , you can hardly call that peacefull by any means!!

[mrtoad]

The constant references to female members of the caretaker government and their aides only being interested in shopping expeditions and beauty therapies is becoming increasingly tiresome.

The point surely is that any individual, particularly a female, should be able to move freely around Thailand without threats or intimidation regardless of their political persuasion

Also crushingly boring are the constant references to individuals, particularly females, as 'slaves', 'puppets', 'mouthpieces' of Thaksin. Of course they are supporters of the exiled premier, and would, no doubt, welcome his return to Thailand.

So, please, less of the childish references to 'shopping expeditions', 'beauty treatments', 'puppets' and 'mouthpieces' and let's have more mature and grown up debate about this very serious political crisis

out of curiosity, are you from St Just?

[gemini81]

Articles state:

Protesters spotted the spokeswoman sitting in front of a beauty clinic and blew the whistles, prompting the security guards to check and find her.

She was taken by guards to be inside the Bangkok Museum for a while for fear that she might be harmed by some angry protesters."

She was taken to the back of the Bangkok Cultural Center building, near the stage of the Pathumwan rally site, and kept there.

PDRC core figures such as Suthep Thaugsuban and Sathit Wongnongtoei were reportedly alarmed by the detaining, announcing on stage that guards and protesters must refrain from using violence. Reporters said Mr. Suthep was visibly upset by the development.

Eeze, you're posts are sorry, but absolute drivel, for one I did not imply she was "beaten up" I said macho for a crowd to "beat a single isolated woman up" becuase that's what is being reported in that the guards stopped he from such a possibility!! Try actually reading properly without jumping to conclusions please.

Secondly, the guards who went to her aid, did NOT need to take her away from press/photographers/media or whatever and behind a building, what was wrong with taking her INSIDE and then sending someone to get the Police to escort her to safety??

Yes instead they took her out of view for 45 MINUTES before releasing her?? Yep, that works in my book, what a load of <deleted>!! They could have easily taken her 10 minutes walk to the nearest Policeman and said simple "Keep this woman safe, we prevented a possible assault on her"

Read your own article please "She was taken by guards to be inside the Bangkok Museum for a while for fear that she might be harmed by some angry protesters"

really?? why were they angry if the protest is about anti corruption? What did she do personally to make them angry? When ptotestors are angry, and baying for a pound of flesh , you can hardly call that peacefull by any means!!

I think there is confusion due to your either quickly typed, or incoherent posts. It just sort of skips around to random things; hard to follow the flow, or lack thereof, to be honest.

Edited February 26, 2014 by gemini81

[Nickymaster]

Then we disagree. Again, you said she was there just to buy cream, I said she was there for other reasons.

There are safer places to buy cream in Thailand. She is a hardcore Thaksin supporter and proud of it. Buying cream in front of a anti Thaksin protest area was not necessary. IMO it was a stunt.

(By the way it is a bit childish to end you post with this )

Yes I said she was shopping, buying face-whitener or other junk - as an example of things she might have been browsing. Maybe she was going to several other shops too far away from the protest, and she didn't feel she should avoid the shops near the protest as she felt it wasn't a risk in a public shopping area.

I'm sure she's Thaksin supporter and I'm sure she isn't angelic grace etc. My comment wasn't about her as a person, it was about the fact that people should not be grabbed while out shopping, or live in fear of being grabbed, or held for an hour against their will. I condemn this act, and I would condemn it just as loudly if it was a PDRC member being abducted against their will for an hour. It is not how most people want to live in society, they want to relax and go shopping without fear. And that applies to everyone, it is a human right.

AAh ok, your comment was not about her as a person... I thought we were talking about Sunisa's actions. At least I was when you commented on my post. Remember? And you know that, but you are turning it into a "people should not live in fear post". As if I ever implied that it is ok if people live in fear. It just confirms that you are a drama queen.

Edited February 26, 2014 by Nickymaster

[Runamile]

I fail to see why it's not understood that whether she was creating a publicity stunt, seeking to prove the demise of the rule of law, spying, considering beauty creams, or whatever else is utterly irrelevant. The fact is that events showed just how fragile is the rule of law in Thailand - unless, of course, it can be proven that she was actually grateful for the security guards' intervention.

[Fat Haggis]

Articles state:

Protesters spotted the spokeswoman sitting in front of a beauty clinic and blew the whistles, prompting the security guards to check and find her.

She was taken by guards to be inside the Bangkok Museum for a while for fear that she might be harmed by some angry protesters."

She was taken to the back of the Bangkok Cultural Center building, near the stage of the Pathumwan rally site, and kept there.

PDRC core figures such as Suthep Thaugsuban and Sathit Wongnongtoei were reportedly alarmed by the detaining, announcing on stage that guards and protesters must refrain from using violence. Reporters said Mr. Suthep was visibly upset by the development.

Eeze, you're posts are sorry, but absolute drivel, for one I did not imply she was "beaten up" I said macho for a crowd to "beat a single isolated woman up" becuase that's what is being reported in that the guards stopped he from such a possibility!! Try actually reading properly without jumping to conclusions please.

Secondly, the guards who went to her aid, did NOT need to take her away from press/photographers/media or whatever and behind a building, what was wrong with taking her INSIDE and then sending someone to get the Police to escort her to safety??

Yes instead they took her out of view for 45 MINUTES before releasing her?? Yep, that works in my book, what a load of <deleted>!! They could have easily taken her 10 minutes walk to the nearest Policeman and said simple "Keep this woman safe, we prevented a possible assault on her"

Read your own article please "She was taken by guards to be inside the Bangkok Museum for a while for fear that she might be harmed by some angry protesters"

really?? why were they angry if the protest is about anti corruption? What did she do personally to make them angry? When ptotestors are angry, and baying for a pound of flesh , you can hardly call that peacefull by any means!!

I think there is confusion due to your either quickly typed, or incoherent posts. It just sort of skips around to random things; hard to follow the flow, or lack thereof, to be honest.

Thank you for highlighting this to me, very much appreciated, I shall endevour to educate myself to a higher level, and shall give myself a good talking to about incoherence and randomness

[smedly]

poor judgement happens when tensions are high - she was released unharmed so hardly a biggie, at least she wasn't gunned down in a hail of bullets like the red murderers call justice

I honestly think im in a playground reading these responses.

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you'd almost think the red muderers were throwing grenades into playgrounds after reading news headlines these last few days

People have died from both sides haven't they. This is what i don't like from either camp, point scoring. Grow up.

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how many points for a 4 year old you sick POS

[garrya]

People should get prison sentence even for less than this. This is now more than insane to say the least.

[bigbamboo]

Plain and simple False imprisonment File charges and go after these idiots

Sunisa may not be Miss Smart Thailand but calling her plain and simple is a bit harsh.

Edited February 26, 2014 by bigbamboo

[gemini81]

Articles state:

Protesters spotted the spokeswoman sitting in front of a beauty clinic and blew the whistles, prompting the security guards to check and find her.

She was taken by guards to be inside the Bangkok Museum for a while for fear that she might be harmed by some angry protesters."

She was taken to the back of the Bangkok Cultural Center building, near the stage of the Pathumwan rally site, and kept there.

PDRC core figures such as Suthep Thaugsuban and Sathit Wongnongtoei were reportedly alarmed by the detaining, announcing on stage that guards and protesters must refrain from using violence. Reporters said Mr. Suthep was visibly upset by the development.

Eeze, you're posts are sorry, but absolute drivel, for one I did not imply she was "beaten up" I said macho for a crowd to "beat a single isolated woman up" becuase that's what is being reported in that the guards stopped he from such a possibility!! Try actually reading properly without jumping to conclusions please.

Secondly, the guards who went to her aid, did NOT need to take her away from press/photographers/media or whatever and behind a building, what was wrong with taking her INSIDE and then sending someone to get the Police to escort her to safety??

Yes instead they took her out of view for 45 MINUTES before releasing her?? Yep, that works in my book, what a load of <deleted>!! They could have easily taken her 10 minutes walk to the nearest Policeman and said simple "Keep this woman safe, we prevented a possible assault on her"

Read your own article please "She was taken by guards to be inside the Bangkok Museum for a while for fear that she might be harmed by some angry protesters"

really?? why were they angry if the protest is about anti corruption? What did she do personally to make them angry? When ptotestors are angry, and baying for a pound of flesh , you can hardly call that peacefull by any means!!

I think there is confusion due to your either quickly typed, or incoherent posts. It just sort of skips around to random things; hard to follow the flow, or lack thereof, to be honest.

Thank you for highlighting this to me, very much appreciated, I shall endevour to educate myself to a higher level, and shall give myself a good talking to about incoherence and randomness

That'as alright, a little spontaneous improvisation in threads lightens up the squabbling.

[Mackie]

fab4, on 26 Feb 2014 - 09:25, said:

Basil B, on 26 Feb 2014 - 06:21, said:

I think if the guards had not detained her a lot worse could of happened.

Was she on a spying mission?

Beyond belief.

What is beyond belief is the fact that you cannot actually take into consideration that the guards might have done her a favour by pulling her aside from people. Maybe you failed to notice that emotions are running high after some deranged minds from UDD/Red mob ranks decided that murdering children is acceptable collateral damage in their latest campaign of terror. Sometimes you could use a bit of common sense.

[gemini81]

People should get prison sentence even for less than this. This is now more than insane to say the least.

'Even for less than this'? Like what? Might want to think that one through. They detained her for what, one hour? Probably thinking, 'is she dumb enough to come here?' Maybe they wanted a urine sample to see what she was smoking haha.

The whole thing is laughable, can't believe people take this seriously.

[captspectre]

I think if the guards had not detained her a lot worse could of happened.

Was she on a spying mission?

get a life and post somethingf that makes sense! spying in a beauty parlor? where are you from?

[bkksteviejai]

poor judgement happens when tensions are high - she was released unharmed so hardly a biggie, at least she wasn't gunned down in a hail of bullets like the red murderers call justice

I honestly think im in a playground reading these responses.

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you'd almost think the red muderers were throwing grenades into playgrounds after reading news headlines these last few days

People have died from both sides haven't they. This is what i don't like from either camp, point scoring. Grow up.

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how many points for a 4 year old you sick POS

To imply that i condone the death of a child is too much, way too much. People are dying is that not enough for you?.....enlighten me.

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[Thaddeus]

I think if the guards had not detained her a lot worse could of happened.

Was she on a spying mission?

get a life and post somethingf that makes sense! spying in a beauty parlor? where are you from?

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