webfact Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Prayuth declines to commit himself that he will not stage coupBANGKOK: -- Army Commander-in-Chief Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha Friday reiterated that he could not promise that a coup would not happen.He said the military would try its best to avoid the coup."I can't promise whether a coup will happen or not. But I admit that a coup is not right legally. Anyway, all coups were aimed to end the situation," Prayuth said.-- The Nation 2014-02-28 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelticBhoy Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I'm sure I read this last month, and the month before, and the month before . . . . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Crushdepth Posted February 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2014 At least he's honest about it. Subtext - so get your shit together, politicians. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scamper Posted February 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2014 It is hard to imagine a situation most serious than this. A sitting cabinet minister attends a rally that calls for secession. It also calls for readiness for an armed rebellion. And it also admonishes the independent agencies. A sitting prime minister fails to show up to a commission that could lead to her impeachment and removal from office. She attacks the institution on facebook, clearly encouraging the UDD. The UDD cements the NACC from the world before they vow to go to the EC and the Civil Court. It is a horrible situation, and likely prays on Prayuth's mind continually. After all, he is sworn to protect the constitution. And so with these full-frontal assaults on the constitution's empowered institutions - like the independent agencies and the judicial system - the county has been placed in the most dangerous position that it's in. The constitutional process should see this through. It is working. But if the judicial process is impeded - then there is no more dangerous situation than that. 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubbaJohnny Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Ground Dog Day? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurboy Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 A coup just before the government and the UN can officially call for reconcilliation talks. Convenient, eh? sent from my hippo phone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OutToGetYou Posted February 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2014 Coup please. It is the only thing to put all this nonsense to sleep. There will be a little resistance from the UDD and the reds, but that will soon be put to bed with some targeted arrests made at the higher levels, then the reds sent packing like in 2010. Keep all UDD leaders, PTP MPs suspected of corruption including YL and all red shirt leaders locked up in a military prison to be investigated by a special branch of the NACC with swift and harsh sentencing on irrefutable evidence, to serve as a future warning to anyone else wishing to tread a similar path. Appoint a neutral PM and cabinet, pay the farmers off via a special budget approval by the constitutional court, and suspend the rice pledging scheme. Then we can set about imposing the new reforms to hopefully bring Thailand back down to earth. 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf5370 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 A coup just before the government and the UN can officially call for reconcilliation talks. Convenient, eh? sent from my hippo phone Which coup was that? Did I miss it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tatsujin Posted February 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2014 Prediction . . . within 10 days the elections will be declared invalid . . . the coup (judicial or otherwise) will then follow this. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CWMcMurray Posted February 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) Having been here through the last coup and seeing where things are heading and what is likely to come once the Red shirt's come to town.... If none are willing to compromise ... I'm not sure how else this can end? But have to believe that even a coup would be better than PRDC and Red mobs clashing in the streets killing each other and who ever else gets in the way.. So agree with the general that a coup is definitely not legal or the right thing.... But the question I am starting to ask, is it better than the alternative? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited February 28, 2014 by CWMcMurray 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ManofReason Posted February 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2014 It is hard to imagine a situation most serious than this. A sitting cabinet minister attends a rally that calls for secession. It also calls for readiness for an armed rebellion. And it also admonishes the independent agencies. A sitting prime minister fails to show up to a commission that could lead to her impeachment and removal from office. She attacks the institution on facebook, clearly encouraging the UDD. The UDD cements the NACC from the world before they vow to go to the EC and the Civil Court. It is a horrible situation, and likely prays on Prayuth's mind continually. After all, he is sworn to protect the constitution. And so with these full-frontal assaults on the constitution's empowered institutions - like the independent agencies and the judicial system - the county has been placed in the most dangerous position that it's in. The constitutional process should see this through. It is working. But if the judicial process is impeded - then there is no more dangerous situation than that. "Anyway, all coups were aimed to end the situation." Prayuth is acknowledging that a military coup won't work this time - probably never will again in support of the Yellows. It looks like the military is very slowly starting to separate itself from the protestors and their losing cause. Without military backing the permanent state institutions addicted to derailing democracy via judicial coups and farcical criminal charges against sitting Prime Ministers (yes, plural) will very quickly be bought under control. It looks like the events kicked off following the refusal of a small minority to accept the TRT (PPP / PTP) 2005 landslide win (375 out of 500 seats) are finally coming to an end. Not much left to do put for the anti-democrats to slink off into the dark to hope and pray that no criminal charges are filed against them. Yingluck's quiet and restrained approach to dealing with Yellows has outsmarted them and won the ultimate victory for truth, justice and freedom. In the fullness of time, good always triumphs over evil. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kurtgruen Posted February 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2014 I'm all for a coup. Peacefully as last time. The military did not give itself enough credit, after the last coup. they got all kinds of stuff done, while they were in power. This last PT Government has been a total screw up. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentors Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 He is still waiting for the call to step in. Then we will see how many parts of the army will follow his command. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted February 28, 2014 Author Share Posted February 28, 2014 Army chief says he will not tolerate separatismBANGKOK: -- Army Commander-in-Chief General Prayuth Chan-ocha said today (Friday) he would not tolerate attempts by anybody or any group of people to carve out the Thai territory to set up a separate state from the kingdom.He labelled the people who advocated armed rebellion and separatism as “saliva rebels” when asked by a reporter about cartaker Interior Minister Charupong Ruangsuwan’s recent remark about civilians getting armed and breaking up the country to form a separate state.Commenting on a incident last week in Phayao province where some 8,000 volunteers known as village police staged a parade carrying red flags which was attended by several Pheu Thai party members, General Prayuth said he had ordered an investigation into the incident and warned authorities concerned not to allow such a parade to be repeated.The army chief said he preferred to see protest leader Suthep Thuagsuban and caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra to enter into negotiations, adding that preconditions set by the rival parties in the conflict were normal and could be worked out later on.He condemned the increasing use of M79 grenades in attacks mostly against protesters and warned that the perpetrators would face severe punishment if caught.Asked about the possibility of a coup, the army chief said that the coup was outdated, adding, however, he could not promise for sure whether there will be a coup or not in the future.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/army-chief-says-will-tolerate-separatism/ -- Thai PBS 2014-02-28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrtoad Posted February 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2014 It is hard to imagine a situation most serious than this. A sitting cabinet minister attends a rally that calls for secession. It also calls for readiness for an armed rebellion. And it also admonishes the independent agencies. A sitting prime minister fails to show up to a commission that could lead to her impeachment and removal from office. She attacks the institution on facebook, clearly encouraging the UDD. The UDD cements the NACC from the world before they vow to go to the EC and the Civil Court. It is a horrible situation, and likely prays on Prayuth's mind continually. After all, he is sworn to protect the constitution. And so with these full-frontal assaults on the constitution's empowered institutions - like the independent agencies and the judicial system - the county has been placed in the most dangerous position that it's in. The constitutional process should see this through. It is working. But if the judicial process is impeded - then there is no more dangerous situation than that. "Anyway, all coups were aimed to end the situation." Prayuth is acknowledging that a military coup won't work this time - probably never will again in support of the Yellows. It looks like the military is very slowly starting to separate itself from the protestors and their losing cause. Without military backing the permanent state institutions addicted to derailing democracy via judicial coups and farcical criminal charges against sitting Prime Ministers (yes, plural) will very quickly be bought under control. It looks like the events kicked off following the refusal of a small minority to accept the TRT (PPP / PTP) 2005 landslide win (375 out of 500 seats) are finally coming to an end. Not much left to do put for the anti-democrats to slink off into the dark to hope and pray that no criminal charges are filed against them. Yingluck's quiet and restrained approach to dealing with Yellows has outsmarted them and won the ultimate victory for truth, justice and freedom. In the fullness of time, good always triumphs over evil. A very familiar posting style. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoisyourdaddy Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) He is still waiting for the call to step in. Then we will see how many parts of the army will follow his command. Considering navy seals are guards for Suthep, do you really need to ask? Or wait to see? Edited February 28, 2014 by whoisyourdaddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf5370 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 It is hard to imagine a situation most serious than this. A sitting cabinet minister attends a rally that calls for secession. It also calls for readiness for an armed rebellion. And it also admonishes the independent agencies. A sitting prime minister fails to show up to a commission that could lead to her impeachment and removal from office. She attacks the institution on facebook, clearly encouraging the UDD. The UDD cements the NACC from the world before they vow to go to the EC and the Civil Court. It is a horrible situation, and likely prays on Prayuth's mind continually. After all, he is sworn to protect the constitution. And so with these full-frontal assaults on the constitution's empowered institutions - like the independent agencies and the judicial system - the county has been placed in the most dangerous position that it's in. The constitutional process should see this through. It is working. But if the judicial process is impeded - then there is no more dangerous situation than that. "Anyway, all coups were aimed to end the situation." Prayuth is acknowledging that a military coup won't work this time - probably never will again in support of the Yellows. It looks like the military is very slowly starting to separate itself from the protestors and their losing cause. Without military backing the permanent state institutions addicted to derailing democracy via judicial coups and farcical criminal charges against sitting Prime Ministers (yes, plural) will very quickly be bought under control. It looks like the events kicked off following the refusal of a small minority to accept the TRT (PPP / PTP) 2005 landslide win (375 out of 500 seats) are finally coming to an end. Not much left to do put for the anti-democrats to slink off into the dark to hope and pray that no criminal charges are filed against them. Yingluck's quiet and restrained approach to dealing with Yellows has outsmarted them and won the ultimate victory for truth, justice and freedom. In the fullness of time, good always triumphs over evil. Wow man - where do you get your user name, hardly fits lol! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 A coup just before the government and the UN can officially call for reconcilliation talks. Convenient, eh? sent from my hippo phone There isn't a government just a caretaker. How do you know what the UN will officially call for? Crystal balls? The caretaker government - now I'm sure they'd love to hold quick reconciliation talks. And they just happen to have this nice Amnesty Bill all ready and waiting..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davejones23 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) A coup just before the government and the UN can officially call for reconcilliation talks. Convenient, eh? sent from my hippo phone I thought I read that Yinluck said no to talks with Suthep. I'm not on either side, but Suthep is willing to have talks from what I read. Yinluck said no. A TV debate would allow all Thais see what's being said on both sides. Edited February 28, 2014 by davejones23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRSoul Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) Prediction . . . within 10 days the elections will be declared invalid . . . the coup (judicial or otherwise) will then follow this. When PTP lose the following election, I'm sure we will hear about an "electoral coup" from UDD, with the normal calls to mass uprising to fight for (red) democracy. The blame of course will be put on the RTArmy for having undue influence on voters by not declaring they would rule out a coup. Edited February 28, 2014 by JRSoul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Yingluck's quiet and restrained approach to dealing with Yellows has outsmarted them and won the ultimate victory for truth, justice and freedom. In the fullness of time, good always triumphs over evil. Outsmart, yeah right, we can see you've been paying attention. That's always the most important thing for these people, truth, justice and the dash to freedom. Of course one mans definition of truth and justice doesn't always match the next mans. Most of us recognise the dash to freedom though. Around here, In the fullness of time all previously banned members return home to roost, it's almost amazing how they stand out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtFarmer Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) As long as everybody on either side of this keeps spouting off,, cranking up the rhetoric, setting deadlines...announcing dates for the 297th final push and so on.. this poor guy still has to put his 2 cents in and keep both sides apprised that foul play in the schoolyard cannot be allowed to extend beyond a certain point.. I am sure he wishes he could retire early because however this goes...should he have to call in the troops.. he will not want it to be his legacy ... but what is curious to me now is like this whole thing is playing out like it has been scripted....and when media is desperate to keep the public whipped into a frenzy...with inanity...and with the ever dwindling presence of active daily protesters ( you have to admit it is losing stream) it just reeks to me of a construct being manipulated from a very creative team of writers somewhere.. I gotta go back to following the money back to looking at the bigger picture ...not of what YL said or what ST said or what any of them spout.. and take another look at who would benefit the most from the events that are yet to unfold in the next coupla weeks..D Day is here...gonna be interesting. hang on to your hats..and good luck to all ! Edited February 28, 2014 by DirtFarmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Baerboxer Posted February 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2014 Army chief says he will not tolerate separatism BANGKOK: -- Army Commander-in-Chief General Prayuth Chan-ocha said today (Friday) he would not tolerate attempts by anybody or any group of people to carve out the Thai territory to set up a separate state from the kingdom. He labelled the people who advocated armed rebellion and separatism as “saliva rebels” when asked by a reporter about cartaker Interior Minister Charupong Ruangsuwan’s recent remark about civilians getting armed and breaking up the country to form a separate state. Commenting on a incident last week in Phayao province where some 8,000 volunteers known as village police staged a parade carrying red flags which was attended by several Pheu Thai party members, General Prayuth said he had ordered an investigation into the incident and warned authorities concerned not to allow such a parade to be repeated. The army chief said he preferred to see protest leader Suthep Thuagsuban and caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra to enter into negotiations, adding that preconditions set by the rival parties in the conflict were normal and could be worked out later on. He condemned the increasing use of M79 grenades in attacks mostly against protesters and warned that the perpetrators would face severe punishment if caught. Asked about the possibility of a coup, the army chief said that the coup was outdated, adding, however, he could not promise for sure whether there will be a coup or not in the future. Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/army-chief-says-will-tolerate-separatism/ -- Thai PBS 2014-02-28 The General has and continues to show more leadership qualities and integrity than all the politicians put together. He acts in a restrained manner commensurate with someone of his very senior military rank. Moreover, he seems to have understood the oath he swore and the meaning of the word oath. Thailand is very lucky to have someone of this caliber in command of the army at a very difficult time. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesetat2013 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Army chief says he will not tolerate separatism BANGKOK: -- Army Commander-in-Chief General Prayuth Chan-ocha said today (Friday) he would not tolerate attempts by anybody or any group of people to carve out the Thai territory to set up a separate state from the kingdom. He labelled the people who advocated armed rebellion and separatism as “saliva rebels” when asked by a reporter about cartaker Interior Minister Charupong Ruangsuwan’s recent remark about civilians getting armed and breaking up the country to form a separate state. Commenting on a incident last week in Phayao province where some 8,000 volunteers known as village police staged a parade carrying red flags which was attended by several Pheu Thai party members, General Prayuth said he had ordered an investigation into the incident and warned authorities concerned not to allow such a parade to be repeated. The army chief said he preferred to see protest leader Suthep Thuagsuban and caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra to enter into negotiations, adding that preconditions set by the rival parties in the conflict were normal and could be worked out later on. He condemned the increasing use of M79 grenades in attacks mostly against protesters and warned that the perpetrators would face severe punishment if caught. Asked about the possibility of a coup, the army chief said that the coup was outdated, adding, however, he could not promise for sure whether there will be a coup or not in the future. Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/army-chief-says-will-tolerate-separatism/ -- Thai PBS 2014-02-28 Let hope if they are going to stage a coup that they do it before the REDS recruit their 600,000 young men that they said are seeking to add to their ranks. If not it will be a bloodbath... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JRSoul Posted February 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2014 Let hope if they are going to stage a coup that they do it before the REDS recruit their 600,000 young men that they said are seeking to add to their ranks. If not it will be a bloodbath... 600,000 young men without sufficient ambition or energy to get themselves to town and get a real job will suddenly decide to mobilise? IMHO they will be too busy sitting under a tree watching a cow graze. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post icommunity Posted February 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2014 Further coup will not end any situation. The armed forces should stand on the side of the democratically elected government with the King as the head of state to reinstate law and order and enforcing the rule of law. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzainoz Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 It looks like the events kicked off following the refusal of a small minority to accept the TRT (PPP / PTP) 2005 landslide win (375 out of 500 seats) are finally coming to an end. Its always interesting to see the truth twisted for some ones own ego PTP won 265 seats not 375 ............................... Yingluck's quiet and restrained approach to dealing with Yellows has outsmarted them The truth is she nothing but a puppet from the start and always under order to keep her mouth shut .................................. and won the ultimate victory for truth, justice and freedom. afraid to talk to the Thai people is truth, justice and freedom. have you been watching too many Superman movies, total fiction In the fullness of time, good always triumphs over evil. well at least once you where correct The good Thai people will triumpth of the evil PTO Party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tezzainoz Posted February 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2014 Further coup will not end any situation. The armed forces should stand on the side of the democratically elected government with the King as the head of state to reinstate law and order and enforcing the rule of law. where have you been for the last 2 months There is no democratically elected government The country is in caretaker mode because of corrupt practices what rule of Law any time the law is against the Taskin family the law is no good where do you come up with all the BS from 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtoad Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 It is hard to imagine a situation most serious than this. A sitting cabinet minister attends a rally that calls for secession. It also calls for readiness for an armed rebellion. And it also admonishes the independent agencies. A sitting prime minister fails to show up to a commission that could lead to her impeachment and removal from office. She attacks the institution on facebook, clearly encouraging the UDD. The UDD cements the NACC from the world before they vow to go to the EC and the Civil Court. It is a horrible situation, and likely prays on Prayuth's mind continually. After all, he is sworn to protect the constitution. And so with these full-frontal assaults on the constitution's empowered institutions - like the independent agencies and the judicial system - the county has been placed in the most dangerous position that it's in. The constitutional process should see this through. It is working. But if the judicial process is impeded - then there is no more dangerous situation than that. "Anyway, all coups were aimed to end the situation." Prayuth is acknowledging that a military coup won't work this time - probably never will again in support of the Yellows. It looks like the military is very slowly starting to separate itself from the protestors and their losing cause. Without military backing the permanent state institutions addicted to derailing democracy via judicial coups and farcical criminal charges against sitting Prime Ministers (yes, plural) will very quickly be bought under control. It looks like the events kicked off following the refusal of a small minority to accept the TRT (PPP / PTP) 2005 landslide win (375 out of 500 seats) are finally coming to an end. Not much left to do put for the anti-democrats to slink off into the dark to hope and pray that no criminal charges are filed against them. Yingluck's quiet and restrained approach to dealing with Yellows has outsmarted them and won the ultimate victory for truth, justice and freedom. In the fullness of time, good always triumphs over evil. Wow man - where do you get your user name, hardly fits lol! I think Pipkins gave it to him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmirage2013 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Go ahead... separate.... call yourself "The Red Sea" Make a golf course your capital... make a shrimp or turtle your state animal... you know what? We don't give a shit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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