Surapong to tell the world PDRC exploiting court, graft buster to overthrow government

[slipperx]

As much as some people hate it, Mr Surapong is a respected figure in the diplomatic community. He is reasonable, balanced and fair. Reputable news services are supporting the govt, the anti-democratic forces have Michael Yon and his millions of followers

hahahahahahahahaha

Thanks for that, i really needed a good laugh today!

Is he still legally in office?

[uty6543]

As much as some people hate it, Mr Surapong is a respected figure in the diplomatic community. He is reasonable, balanced and fair. Reputable news services are supporting the govt, the anti-democratic forces have Michael Yon and his millions of followers

Surapong has about as much respect as this post is getting. At least other posters don't have to be diplomatic in their answers to it.

[Fryslan boppe]

Surapong is simply channeling what is common knowledge within the Majority Electorate, who know a thing or two about their votes being nullified.

There has been talk of double standards in the Thai legal system for some time, and the red shirts have long pointed at these when, for example, red shirts were being locked up by the Abhisit Vejjajiva unelected regime, while several cases against yellow shirts dragged on and on, and none of them seemed to ever be incarcerated. It was a reasonable complaint for any fair-minded person.

Recently, some red shirts decided to test the extent of double standards by deciding to set up a protest stage at the office of the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC). In essence, they were emulating the anti-democrats, who not just set up stages, but blocked government offices, in some cases stormed them, and even dragged away files and papers.

Yet these red shirts have found themselves arrested in record time.

Not surprisingly, the group believed that "their protest should receive the same protection from the Civil Court’s recent order to protect anti-democracy demonstrators’ rights." That would seem quite reasonable, especially as various courts have repeatedly refused warrants for the anti-democrats, including several for men armed with automatic weapons who shot up various areas in support of the anti-democrats.

But being reasonable and even observing the law is something that the courts now find politically impossible, as they have become amongst the most politicized courts in Asia. They simply have never transitioned to a Democratic form of Govt IMHO.

No matter how much the PAD-Dem's try to normalize the abnormal, it doesn't fly with respect to the judiciary, and Surapong is simply maintaining this fact on the front-burner........The coup-mongers would like to self-servingly create so much smoke about this, that it obscures reality.

Good for Surapong. One of the biggest 'knocks' the UDD/RS's lay on the PTP is their tepid or non-challenges to their aggressive opposition, even when it is obviously misleading and nonsensical.

Edited March 6, 2014 by Fryslan boppe

[MunterHunter]

Yet these red shirts have found themselves arrested in record time.

Arrested? I didnt see any news about them being arrested for their protest at NACC... its possible i missed it as ive not been on much this past 5-6 days. Do you happen to have a link to the news article or perhaps remember the date it happened so i can find them myself?

[Publicus]

This man is completely out of control. First of all, he's a private citizen now. What's he doing talking to the cameras ? Thaksin's cousin is now trying to round up the entire world, with the nefarious motive of trying to lump the entire judicial system with the PDRC. In other words, Surapong's - and Thaksin's - real target is the judicial system itself. Surapong is now - as a private citizen - as dangerous as Jatuporn. Surapong has been a disgrace since day one. He and Thaksin have no right to initiate such a slander against the judicial system. The " loopholes " he is apparently referring to must be things that have something to do with the law - like the constitution - including the myriad of articles that points to the fact the Surapong should have moved out of his office two days ago. Maybe the reporters can help him carry the boxes.

MSM refer to those members of the caretaker cabinet by their title and position in the cabinet, as does the OP from which I quote below. No official order or command has removed or in any way dissolved the caretaker cabinet, your continuing pronouncements notwithstanding. You are entitled to your opinion and point of view and you would also do your cause well to demonstrate the ability to recognize fact.

If an official order or command should make real your dreaming or your wish list, then you can speak accordingly. Unless or until then, here's the factual circumstance.

BANGKOK: -- Chief adviser to the Center for Maintaining Peace and Order (CMPO) Surapong Tovichakchaikul today accused the People’s Democratic Reform Committee of attempting to use independent organizations as tools to topple the caretaker government.

Surapong, who is also deputy prime minister and foreign minister, said he will invite all foreign ambassadors in Bangkok to a meeting to clarify the latest development in the political deadlock which now sees the PDRC’s attempt to exploit the Constitution Court and the National Anti-Corruption Commission as tools to overthrow the caretaker cabinet.

And if the caretaker government / cabinet should be involuntarily dissolved later today or tomorrow - or next month - who do you foresee dissolving it and what do you see immediately replacing it, anointed by whom and on what legal and constitutional authority? The prime minister for one must be an elected official from the most recent general (or special) election.

The Constitution Court is presently doing rigorous mental gymnastics trying to find its unique way through the present legal and constitutional morass, however, you are lying on your sofa waving your arm making summary pronouncements. The best way to start anything is with the facts.

[The Deerhunter]

Surapong is simply channeling what is common knowledge within the Majority Electorate, who know a thing or two about their votes being nullified.

There has been talk of double standards in the Thai legal system for some time, and the red shirts have long pointed at these when, for example, red shirts were being locked up by the Abhisit Vejjajiva unelected regime, while several cases against yellow shirts dragged on and on, and none of them seemed to ever be incarcerated. It was a reasonable complaint for any fair-minded person.

Recently, some red shirts decided to test the extent of double standards by deciding to set up a protest stage at the office of the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC). In essence, they were emulating the anti-democrats, who not just set up stages, but blocked government offices, in some cases stormed them, and even dragged away files and papers.

Yet these red shirts have found themselves arrested in record time.

Not surprisingly, the group believed that "their protest should receive the same protection from the Civil Court’s recent order to protect anti-democracy demonstrators’ rights." That would seem quite reasonable, especially as various courts have repeatedly refused warrants for the anti-democrats, including several for men armed with automatic weapons who shot up various areas in support of the anti-democrats.

But being reasonable and even observing the law is something that the courts now find politically impossible, as they have become amongst the most politicized courts in Asia. They simply have never transitioned to a Democratic form of Govt IMHO.

No matter how much the PAD-Dem's try to normalize the abnormal, it doesn't fly with respect to the judiciary, and Surapong is simply maintaining this fact on the front-burner........The coup-mongers would like to self-servingly create so much smoke about this, that it obscures reality.

Good for Surapong. One of the biggest 'knocks' the UDD/RS's lay on the PTP is their tepid or non-challenges to their aggressive opposition, even when it is obviously misleading and nonsensical.

Arrested??? Surely not. News reference please. Please don't make things up.

[winstonc]

As much as some people hate it, Mr Surapong is a respected figure in the diplomatic community. He is reasonable, balanced and fair. Reputable news services are supporting the govt, the anti-democratic forces have Michael Yon and his millions of followers

You are wrong, Surapong is a sneaky liar. The fact that everybody knows that he is spending large amounts of taxpayer's money to help his fugitive criminal cousin makes him a very dis-respected figure in the international community...

hes in a childs seat ...the dungeon master..a person youd never get tired of slapping about.like a walking punchbag..

[Trembly]

As much as some people hate it, Mr Surapong is a respected figure in the diplomatic community. He is reasonable, balanced and fair. Reputable news services are supporting the govt, the anti-democratic forces have Michael Yon and his millions of followers

How do you know? Are you a diplomat?

Surapong has never been a career diplomat. He's too thick to be anything other than a failed Democrat local politician who defected to TRT when they were winning and has coasted on his family ties ever since.

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Edited March 6, 2014 by Trembly

[Nickymaster]

Surapong is simply channeling what is common knowledge within the Majority Electorate, who know a thing or two about their votes being nullified.

There has been talk of double standards in the Thai legal system for some time, and the red shirts have long pointed at these when, for example, red shirts were being locked up by the Abhisit Vejjajiva unelected regime, while several cases against yellow shirts dragged on and on, and none of them seemed to ever be incarcerated. It was a reasonable complaint for any fair-minded person.

Recently, some red shirts decided to test the extent of double standards by deciding to set up a protest stage at the office of the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC). In essence, they were emulating the anti-democrats, who not just set up stages, but blocked government offices, in some cases stormed them, and even dragged away files and papers.

Yet these red shirts have found themselves arrested in record time.

Not surprisingly, the group believed that "their protest should receive the same protection from the Civil Court’s recent order to protect anti-democracy demonstrators’ rights." That would seem quite reasonable, especially as various courts have repeatedly refused warrants for the anti-democrats, including several for men armed with automatic weapons who shot up various areas in support of the anti-democrats.

But being reasonable and even observing the law is something that the courts now find politically impossible, as they have become amongst the most politicized courts in Asia. They simply have never transitioned to a Democratic form of Govt IMHO.

No matter how much the PAD-Dem's try to normalize the abnormal, it doesn't fly with respect to the judiciary, and Surapong is simply maintaining this fact on the front-burner........The coup-mongers would like to self-servingly create so much smoke about this, that it obscures reality.

Good for Surapong. One of the biggest 'knocks' the UDD/RS's lay on the PTP is their tepid or non-challenges to their aggressive opposition, even when it is obviously misleading and nonsensical.

It really amazes me that you are not banned yet for making up stories.

[DirtFarmer]

What surprises me (not) is that the PDRC and/or Sutheps stepson Prompahn would even do this Chinese Embassy thing...First it was Suthep ":We will close you down" to the banks if they paid the farmers...then it was ":Pay the Farmers..Or we will close you down...marching with the farmers... and now back to impede the deal going through... a deal that was in fact made in October and even way before when China showed interest in the high speed train development deal... I believe it was part of the package...Doesn't take a Rhodes scholar to figure this one out... keep your eye on the cups ...where's the lil pea...? numba one ? numba two ? or numba three..?.keep your eyes on the cups and soon you will see....what a grand old circus...just wish all those impeding the healing process would step aside... but ...naw...not gonna happen...

[renaissanc]

He doesn't realize that the ambassadors are a lot better educated than he is. They will laugh and smile when he tells them: "It's so unfair that the PDRC is using the courts to punish us for our rampant corruption."

[maxme]

K

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[whybother]

As much as some people hate it, Mr Surapong is a respected figure in the diplomatic community. He is reasonable, balanced and fair. Reputable news services are supporting the govt, the anti-democratic forces have Michael Yon and his millions of followers

No Thai Foreign Minister is ever a respected figure in the diplomatic community.

Reputable news services are supporting free and fair elections. Just because the government talk about that doesn't mean the news services are supporting the government.

[siampolee]

I have commissioned the above portrait worthy of Surapong depicting his invaluable sevices in and to the arena of Thaksin Shinwatras Thai politics

Edited March 6, 2014 by siampolee

[Thait Spot]

it's scary really.

You open up the PTP tool box and in place of anything useful you see the gargoyles of Chalerm, Tarit and Surapong grimacing at you

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[gabruce]

As much as some people hate it, Mr Surapong is a respected figure in the diplomatic community. He is reasonable, balanced and fair. Reputable news services are supporting the govt, the anti-democratic forces have Michael Yon and his millions of followers

Is it possible that you really believe this?

[Publicus]

Deleted, double post.

Edited March 6, 2014 by Publicus

[Publicus]

Surapong is simply channeling what is common knowledge within the Majority Electorate, who know a thing or two about their votes being nullified.

There has been talk of double standards in the Thai legal system for some time, and the red shirts have long pointed at these when, for example, red shirts were being locked up by the Abhisit Vejjajiva unelected regime, while several cases against yellow shirts dragged on and on, and none of them seemed to ever be incarcerated. It was a reasonable complaint for any fair-minded person.

Recently, some red shirts decided to test the extent of double standards by deciding to set up a protest stage at the office of the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC). In essence, they were emulating the anti-democrats, who not just set up stages, but blocked government offices, in some cases stormed them, and even dragged away files and papers.

Yet these red shirts have found themselves arrested in record time.

Not surprisingly, the group believed that "their protest should receive the same protection from the Civil Court’s recent order to protect anti-democracy demonstrators’ rights." That would seem quite reasonable, especially as various courts have repeatedly refused warrants for the anti-democrats, including several for men armed with automatic weapons who shot up various areas in support of the anti-democrats.

But being reasonable and even observing the law is something that the courts now find politically impossible, as they have become amongst the most politicized courts in Asia. They simply have never transitioned to a Democratic form of Govt IMHO.

No matter how much the PAD-Dem's try to normalize the abnormal, it doesn't fly with respect to the judiciary, and Surapong is simply maintaining this fact on the front-burner........The coup-mongers would like to self-servingly create so much smoke about this, that it obscures reality.

Good for Surapong. One of the biggest 'knocks' the UDD/RS's lay on the PTP is their tepid or non-challenges to their aggressive opposition, even when it is obviously misleading and nonsensical.

It really amazes me that you are not banned yet for making up stories.

Banned for what you say is "making up stories"? You are OTT - but that's not news. Your post suggests trolling.

The NACC quickly announced after the reds' shutdown of the commission's offices that it would investigate the caretaker government to find out if anyone in it incited or directed the protests, which is an unseemly accusation and action by what is theoretically established as an independent agency, and this is what the poster refers to. That's the factual news reported by other MSM but which I have not found in the Nation which permeates and dominates this web domain.

The contradiction pointed out is that Suthep's mobs roamed Bangkok freely and with a court order to demonstrate free of police restrictions, to include seizing government offices for extended periods of time, yet the government gets investigated for actions by an unconnected group of peaceful demonstrators at the NACC offices.

Many of us question this uneven and openly contradictory development, not to mention its audacity.

Edited to ask whether you altered the quoted post by adding highlighting boldface type to it, which is of course a violation of posting rules.

Edited March 6, 2014 by Publicus

[Fryslan boppe]

Surapong is simply channeling what is common knowledge within the Majority Electorate, who know a thing or two about their votes being nullified.

There has been talk of double standards in the Thai legal system for some time, and the red shirts have long pointed at these when, for example, red shirts were being locked up by the Abhisit Vejjajiva unelected regime, while several cases against yellow shirts dragged on and on, and none of them seemed to ever be incarcerated. It was a reasonable complaint for any fair-minded person.

Recently, some red shirts decided to test the extent of double standards by deciding to set up a protest stage at the office of the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC). In essence, they were emulating the anti-democrats, who not just set up stages, but blocked government offices, in some cases stormed them, and even dragged away files and papers.

Yet these red shirts have found themselves arrested in record time.

Not surprisingly, the group believed that "their protest should receive the same protection from the Civil Court’s recent order to protect anti-democracy demonstrators’ rights." That would seem quite reasonable, especially as various courts have repeatedly refused warrants for the anti-democrats, including several for men armed with automatic weapons who shot up various areas in support of the anti-democrats.

But being reasonable and even observing the law is something that the courts now find politically impossible, as they have become amongst the most politicized courts in Asia. They simply have never transitioned to a Democratic form of Govt IMHO.

No matter how much the PAD-Dem's try to normalize the abnormal, it doesn't fly with respect to the judiciary, and Surapong is simply maintaining this fact on the front-burner........The coup-mongers would like to self-servingly create so much smoke about this, that it obscures reality.

Good for Surapong. One of the biggest 'knocks' the UDD/RS's lay on the PTP is their tepid or non-challenges to their aggressive opposition, even when it is obviously misleading and nonsensical.

It really amazes me that you are not banned yet for making up stories.

Banned for what you say is "making up stories"? You are OTT - but that's not news. Your post suggests trolling.

The NACC quickly announced after the reds' shutdown of the commission's offices that it would investigate the caretaker government to find out if anyone in it incited or directed the protests, which is an unseemly accusation and action by what is theoretically established as an independent agency, and this is what the poster refers to. That's the factual news reported by other MSM but which I have not found in the Nation which permeates and dominates this web domain.

The contradiction pointed out is that Suthep's mobs roamed Bangkok freely and with a court order to demonstrate free of police restrictions, to include seizing government offices for extended periods of time, yet the government gets investigated for actions by an unconnected group of peaceful demonstrators at the NACC offices.

Many of us question this uneven and openly contradictory development, not to mention its audacity.

Members of the group turned themselves in to police in Nonthaburi on Monday after the Nonthaburi provincial court approved arrest warrants. They have been charged with trespassing at the office of the NACC and damaging property in connection with their protest on Feb 17.

It is not lost on UDD/RS's the disparity of above, as well as how "the NACC quickly announced after the reds' shutdown of the commission's offices that it would investigate the caretaker government to find out if anyone in it incited or directed the protests, which is an unseemly accusation and action by what is theoretically established as an independent agency" as quoted from above Post..

Edited March 6, 2014 by Fryslan boppe

[Fryslan boppe]

Surapong is simply channeling what is common knowledge within the Majority Electorate, who know a thing or two about their votes being nullified.

There has been talk of double standards in the Thai legal system for some time, and the red shirts have long pointed at these when, for example, red shirts were being locked up by the Abhisit Vejjajiva unelected regime, while several cases against yellow shirts dragged on and on, and none of them seemed to ever be incarcerated. It was a reasonable complaint for any fair-minded person.

Recently, some red shirts decided to test the extent of double standards by deciding to set up a protest stage at the office of the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC). In essence, they were emulating the anti-democrats, who not just set up stages, but blocked government offices, in some cases stormed them, and even dragged away files and papers.

Yet these red shirts have found themselves arrested in record time.

Not surprisingly, the group believed that "their protest should receive the same protection from the Civil Court’s recent order to protect anti-democracy demonstrators’ rights." That would seem quite reasonable, especially as various courts have repeatedly refused warrants for the anti-democrats, including several for men armed with automatic weapons who shot up various areas in support of the anti-democrats.

But being reasonable and even observing the law is something that the courts now find politically impossible, as they have become amongst the most politicized courts in Asia. They simply have never transitioned to a Democratic form of Govt IMHO.

No matter how much the PAD-Dem's try to normalize the abnormal, it doesn't fly with respect to the judiciary, and Surapong is simply maintaining this fact on the front-burner........The coup-mongers would like to self-servingly create so much smoke about this, that it obscures reality.

Good for Surapong. One of the biggest 'knocks' the UDD/RS's lay on the PTP is their tepid or non-challenges to their aggressive opposition, even when it is obviously misleading and nonsensical.

Arrested??? Surely not. News reference please. Please don't make things up.

Members of the group turned themselves in to police in Nonthaburi on Monday, after the Nonthaburi provincial court approved arrest warrants. They have been charged with trespassing at the office of the NACC and damaging property in connection with their protest on Feb 17.

That is the information passed on to me by UDD/RS's who have been following this thing.

[Robby nz]

Members of the group turned themselves in to police in Nonthaburi on Monday, after the Nonthaburi provincial court approved arrest warrants. They have been charged with trespassing at the office of the NACC and damaging property in connection with their protest on Feb 17.

That is the information passed on to me by UDD/RS's who have been following this thing.

So you do have close connections with UDD, that has been suspected on here for some time, good to have confirmation.

[Mackie]

Members of the group turned themselves in to police in Nonthaburi on Monday, after the Nonthaburi provincial court approved arrest warrants. They have been charged with trespassing at the office of the NACC and damaging property in connection with their protest on Feb 17.

That is the information passed on to me by UDD/RS's who have been following this thing.

Don't make people laugh. Anything official? Your source carries zero credibility in any decent debate. Information passed on to me by UDD/RS's...for heaven's sake...This forum is not a kindergarten.

[SICHONSTEVE]

As much as some people hate it, Mr Surapong is a respected figure in the diplomatic community. He is reasonable, balanced and fair. Reputable news services are supporting the govt, the anti-democratic forces have Michael Yon and his millions of followers

Do you manage to keep a straight face when you are writing this nonsense?? I mean really!!

[animatic]

Other diplomats must bust a gut trying not to laugh when this guy comes to their negotiating tables for a chat...

What a total null.

Reminds me of W. Bush having a summit with PM Somchai,

to say he should have been given a high chair to get up to the talks would be understating it.

Edited March 6, 2014 by animatic

[Fryslan boppe]

Members of the group turned themselves in to police in Nonthaburi on Monday, after the Nonthaburi provincial court approved arrest warrants. They have been charged with trespassing at the office of the NACC and damaging property in connection with their protest on Feb 17.

That is the information passed on to me by UDD/RS's who have been following this thing.

Don't make people laugh. Anything official? Your source carries zero credibility in any decent debate. Information passed on to me by UDD/RS's...for heaven's sake...This forum is not a kindergarten.

Attaching zero credibility to the views of the UDD/RS's, is probably the single greatest reason the PAD-Dem's cannot win an election.

Denigrating this very politicized Movement affiliated with the electoral majority, is a death-knell to political aspirations of the Elites. They need to get off this kick about Education, and think Politicization....a sea change to the Elitist mentality.

To put a positive spin to this, they would be better advised to do a major study on this large sector of the electorate, and tailor-make their policies to appeal to them come election time.

In the parlance of the trade, this is called 'segmentation'..without segmenting major sectors of the electorate and developing policies and programs to those sectors, they will be P...... into the wind.

Such segmentation should also advise them with respect to leadership....Is a guy like AV best suited to these electoral sectors? Perhaps they have a charismatic individual in the ranks, with non-BKK and non-Southern roots, who could relate better to a diverse electorate.

Until they genuinely respect all electoral segments, and not attribute 'zero credibility' to one of the largest segments, would be a good beginning to competitive elections.

Just saying.

Edited March 6, 2014 by Fryslan boppe

[moonao]

Its good he tells the world... but they know it all anyway.

Has any credible international source come out in support of Suthep and his PDRC bullies ? didn't think so.

Only a vocal minority of brainwashed domestic nutters seem to be in support of them. And, their opinions ? well.... nothing more than white noise.

Edited March 6, 2014 by moonao

[MrSlatersParrot]

As much as some people hate it, Mr Surapong is a respected figure in the diplomatic community. He is reasonable, balanced and fair. Reputable news services are supporting the govt, the anti-democratic forces have Michael Yon and his millions of followers

And as much as you hate to admit it, as it relates to the foreign Diplomatic community that Surapong communicates with, they have no bearing on their country's foreign policies. Foreign Ambassadors come and go and retire. Thai Ambassadors and Diplomatic community return home and have stature, but not so with the foreign community that Surapong is now communicating with.

How many of those in the Diplomatic community from your Country that you have met over the years rose to positions of power in your Country?

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So you haven't read the thai wikileaks?

Something of a bombshell and all that info communicated to Washington.

Recently we saw released details of how the british and american embassies smuggled out Pridi onto a shell oil tanker with the death squad on his tail.

[PepperMe]

Let the world see the evidence that actually topples this shower of shit and the worlds will make up its own mind.

The foreign ministry is not there for the use of promoting a political party and that is abuse of office for a start.

The west are not as stupid as he thinks they are, he is making himself look like a right international clown and is embarrassing Thailand.

[Fryslan boppe]

What surprises me (not) is that the PDRC and/or Sutheps stepson Prompahn would even do this Chinese Embassy thing...First it was Suthep ":We will close you down" to the banks if they paid the farmers...then it was ":Pay the Farmers..Or we will close you down...marching with the farmers... and now back to impede the deal going through... a deal that was in fact made in October and even way before when China showed interest in the high speed train development deal... I believe it was part of the package...Doesn't take a Rhodes scholar to figure this one out... keep your eye on the cups ...where's the lil pea...? numba one ? numba two ? or numba three..?.keep your eyes on the cups and soon you will see....what a grand old circus...just wish all those impeding the healing process would step aside... but ...naw...not gonna happen...

I understand it is not only the Chinese they are accosting about buying rice from Thailand, but also the British and American offices.

This is not the first time people like that will 'throw out the baby with the bathwater" in order to gain the political upper-hand.....This is what the airporters were all about.

Political ambitions trump Thailand's welfare to these people. That is how convinced they are about their superior political insights to the exclusion of everyone else. Arrogant Elitists feel a very strong sense of entitlement, and will discount anyone not of their station.

No wonder elections spook them, including the incomplete current one.

[mrtoad]

Is Mr Boppe actually Bob Amsterdam?