Please help..confused about Visa wording

[dude123]

Below in quotes is the wording for a O-A visa. I'm confused about the $25,000 as it is mentioned. Does it just mean I need to have proof that I have $25,000 in my country's bank and that's it, or does it mean I also require some monthly income as well in addition to the 25k?

"A copy of a bank statement showing a deposit of the amount equal to no less than $ 25,000 or an income certificate (an original copy) with a monthly income of no less than $ 2,100 or a deposit account plus a monthly income of no less than $25,000 a year and must be accompanied with a letter of guarantee from the bank stating the monthly income from a source such as a pension or other sources and the letter from the bank must be certified by a Notary Public"

[ubonjoe]

It is one or the other.

It is not both unless you are combining them to reach the $25k number.

What website are getting your info from?

The embassy in DC's website is more clear in what is wanted and uses a baht number instead of USD. http://www.thaiembdc.us/dcdp/Non_Immigrant_Long_Stay

[Upnotover]

It is OR not AND.

[dude123]

It is one or the other.

It is not both unless you are combining them to reach the $25k number.

Thanks for the help unbonjoe I also have a friend, he is 57 and his wife is 25 years old from the Philippines. How can he live in Thailand with his wife since she is under 50 years old?

[Lite Beer]

He gets a 12 month Retirement Extension from Immigration.
She gets a 12 month Extension as his dependant.

2.22 In the case of a retiree: Permission will be granted for a period of not more than 1 year at a time.
(1) The alien has obtained a temporary visa (NON-IM);
(2) The applicant is 50 years of age or over;
(3) Proof of income of not less than Baht 65,000 per month; or
(4) Account deposit with a bank in Thailand of not less than 800,000 Baht as shown in the bank account for the past 3 months at the filing date of the application. For the first year, the applicant should have that amount in his bank account for not less than 60 days or
(5) Annual income plus bank account deposit totaling not less than Baht 800,000 as of the filing date of application

2.20 In the case of a family member of an alien who has been permitted temporary stay under clauses 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, 2.5, 2.6,2.7, 2.10, 2.12, 2.13,2.4, 2.15, 2.16, 2.17, 2.21, 2.22,2.26,6.29 of this Order (applicable only to parents, spouse, child, adopted child or child of his/her spouse):
Permission will be granted for a period of not more than 1 year at a time.
(1) The alien has obtained a temporary visa (NON-IM);
(2) Proof of family relationship;
(3) In the case of a spouse, the marital relationship shall be de jure (legitimate) and de facto;

[ubonjoe]

It is one or the other.

It is not both unless you are combining them to reach the $25k number.

Thanks for the help unbonjoe I also have a friend, he is 57 and his wife is 25 years old from the Philippines. How can he live in Thailand with his wife since she is under 50 years old?

If he gets an extension of stay based upon retirement done at immigration here his wife can get an extension as his dependent.

With a OA visa it is not possible to get the extension.. The embassy would do a multiple entry non-o visa that would require border runs every 90 days,.

I did an edit of my post go back and look at it.

[dude123]

It is one or the other.

It is not both unless you are combining them to reach the $25k number.

Thanks for the help unbonjoe I also have a friend, he is 57 and his wife is 25 years old from the Philippines. How can he live in Thailand with his wife since she is under 50 years old?

If he gets an extension of stay based upon retirement done at immigration here his wife can get an extension as his dependent.

With a OA visa it is not possible to get the extension.. The embassy would do a multiple entry non-o visa that would require border runs every 90 days,.

I did an edit of my post go back and look at it.

I got my info from the Canadian website. Thanks for your help again and thank you to Lite Beer as well.

So to understand correctly, he should "not" enter on an AO visa otherwise he would have to do border runs. Which leads me to ask then.......what visa to enter on to avoid border runs?

[ubonjoe]

It is one or the other.

It is not both unless you are combining them to reach the $25k number.

Thanks for the help unbonjoe I also have a friend, he is 57 and his wife is 25 years old from the Philippines. How can he live in Thailand with his wife since she is under 50 years old?

If he gets an extension of stay based upon retirement done at immigration here his wife can get an extension as his dependent.

With a OA visa it is not possible to get the extension.. The embassy would do a multiple entry non-o visa that would require border runs every 90 days,.

I did an edit of my post go back and look at it.

I got my info from the Canadian website. Thanks for your help again and thank you to Lite Beer as well.

So to understand correctly, he should "not" enter on an AO visa otherwise he would have to do border runs. Which leads me to ask then.......what visa to enter on to avoid border runs?

The multiple entry visa I mentioned was for his wife if he gets a OA visa from an embassy or official consulate.

He should get an extension of stay (it is not a visa) at immigration. His wife could then get an extension as his dependent.

If he is in Canada he could get a single entry non-o visa for being 50 or over from one of the honorary consulates (Toronto, Edmonton, Montreal). And then do the extension here. His wife could also get a single entry non-o as his dependent.

[moe666]

It is one or the other.

It is not both unless you are combining them to reach the $25k number.

Thanks for the help unbonjoe I also have a friend, he is 57 and his wife is 25 years old from the Philippines. How can he live in Thailand with his wife since she is under 50 years old?

If he gets an extension of stay based upon retirement done at immigration here his wife can get an extension as his dependent.

With a OA visa it is not possible to get the extension.. The embassy would do a multiple entry non-o visa that would require border runs every 90 days,.

I did an edit of my post go back and look at it.

I got my info from the Canadian website. Thanks for your help again and thank you to Lite Beer as well.

So to understand correctly, he should "not" enter on an AO visa otherwise he would have to do border runs. Which leads me to ask then.......what visa to enter on to avoid border runs?

It is a O-A visa and no you do not have to do border runs but have to go to the Thai immigration every 90 days to report.

[dude123]

The multiple entry visa I mentioned was for his wife if he gets a OA visa from an embassy or official consulate.

He should get an extension of stay (it is not a visa) at immigration. His wife could then get an extension as his dependent.

If he is in Canada he could get a single entry non-o visa for being 50 or over from one of the honorary consulates (Toronto, Edmonton, Montreal). And then do the extension here. His wife could also get a single entry non-o as his dependent.

Ah, I understand now, thanks for the clarification, it really helps!

[dude123]

It is a O-A visa and no you do not have to do border runs but have to go to the Thai immigration every 90 days to report.

I think I understand now, but then the O-A visa won't let me get an extension of stay as ubonjoe stated, so I would have to go the other route that he mentioned.

[ubonjoe]

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[SpokaneAl]

Below in quotes is the wording for a O-A visa. I'm confused about the $25,000 as it is mentioned. Does it just mean I need to have proof that I have $25,000 in my country's bank and that's it, or does it mean I also require some monthly income as well in addition to the 25k?

"A copy of a bank statement showing a deposit of the amount equal to no less than $ 25,000 or an income certificate (an original copy) with a monthly income of no less than $ 2,100 or a deposit account plus a monthly income of no less than $25,000 a year and must be accompanied with a letter of guarantee from the bank stating the monthly income from a source such as a pension or other sources and the letter from the bank must be certified by a Notary Public"

Last fall, when I was preparing the necessary documents to apply for a retirement visa (from the US via the LA Thai Consulate), the bank would not certify via a Notary Public, their letter. Their argument was that by doing this they would be essentially certifying their own statements.

To get around this I wrote a letter stating my bank balance and the Notary Public happily applied her stamp to my document. It generated no problems with the Thai Consulate.

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[dude123]

Last fall, when I was preparing the necessary documents to apply for a retirement visa (from the US via the LA Thai Consulate), the bank would not certify via a Notary Public, their letter. Their argument was that by doing this they would be essentially certifying their own statements.

To get around this I wrote a letter stating my bank balance and the Notary Public happily applied her stamp to my document. It generated no problems with the Thai Consulate.

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Good info, thank you.

[SpokaneAl]

Last fall, when I was preparing the necessary documents to apply for a retirement visa (from the US via the LA Thai Consulate), the bank would not certify via a Notary Public, their letter. Their argument was that by doing this they would be essentially certifying their own statements.

To get around this I wrote a letter stating my bank balance and the Notary Public happily applied her stamp to my document. It generated no problems with the Thai Consulate.

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Good info, thank you.

In reading the requirements I get the feeling that they do not quite understand the purpose of a Notary stamp on a document. It certifies that the person signing the document, to the best of the Notary's knowledge, is the person he/she says she is. A notary in no way makes any conclusion or certification of the validity of the document or it's information outside of the signature.

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[Mario2008]

I believe a notary normally also testifies to the fact that a document is a real copy of an original document.